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Old 02-16-2004, 11:57 AM   #101
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You may need camber bolts for the rear. I'd recommend getting them anyway since you will probably want a performance alingnment afterwards. Otherwise they will bolt in just fine. The reason that you may need them is that because of the sedans wider track, the bolt holes are set just a bit different from the wagon. The fronts on our cars already have camber bolts, so you'll be fine there. It's the rear that may need adjustment.

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Old 02-16-2004, 09:52 PM   #102
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Thanks for the info Alex.
When the time comes I'll likely be contacting you.
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Old 02-18-2004, 02:30 PM   #103
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I was wondering if ther is any news about the prodrive wagon springs? Or if there is a setup that will work for fast roads or canyon runs on the wagon- STi, Cusco, DMS, whatever. I'm looking for ideas without spending a ton of money, thanks
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Old 02-18-2004, 02:49 PM   #104
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There are several companies that make wagon specific springs. Eibach for example. And the price is pretty good too. Way less the Prodrive.

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Old 02-18-2004, 04:22 PM   #105
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so i think ive decided on koni inserts for my wagon (on prodrive springs), but where could i pick up a set of used wagon struts for cheap? i dont want to start the project with my current struts and then get stuck without a car if i f*** up and have to wait. plus i can just sell my current struts.
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Old 02-18-2004, 04:59 PM   #106
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ET48mm
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215/45/17 Yokohama AVS-ES100
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Old 02-18-2004, 05:00 PM   #107
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You can use the sedan struts as well, just have to get camber bolts for the rear and you'll probably be getting those anyway.
There's alway someone selling a set of stock stuts in the classifieds.

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Old 02-18-2004, 06:23 PM   #108
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You can use the sedan struts as well, just have to get camber bolts for the rear and you'll probably be getting those anyway.
There's alway someone selling a set of stock stuts in the classifieds.

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hey alex, thanks for the tip, thats a good idea, is there any performance difference in using the sedan struts over the wagon struts since there is a slight difference in geometry between the two types of struts?
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Old 02-18-2004, 06:40 PM   #109
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You can use the sedan struts as well, just have to get camber bolts for the rear and you'll probably be getting those anyway.
There's alway someone selling a set of stock stuts in the classifieds.

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Won't you also end up with less negative camber in front than if you used the wagon struts?
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Old 02-18-2004, 07:25 PM   #110
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The front has camber bolts from the factory. And if you put lowering springs on, you'll be in the negative territory already.
There is no performance difference between the sturts, as far as I know there only difference is the bolt holes.

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Old 02-23-2004, 05:38 PM   #111
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Anybody know when the prodrive '04 wagon springs are due, I'm sick of waiting for them
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Old 02-23-2004, 07:25 PM   #112
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If you're just looking to reduce the wheel gap in front like I was, then I think I've got the answer - Eibachs springs in front and OEM springs in back. This setup made the wheel gap perfectly even on my '02 wagon (I measured), it rides great, doesn't rub with 225/45/r17 w/50mm offset, and I don't have to worry about speed bumps and driveways. I couldn't be happier with this setup.

check it out at Subydude:
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Old 02-23-2004, 07:38 PM   #113
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My new setup:

-Koni inserts front/ KYB AGX Rear
-Ground Control coil overs (350 front, 325 rear)
-Whiteline 22mm non-adjustable rear swaybar
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-NO rubbing on 4 different suspension setups (I must just be lucky, so my fingers are staying crossed here)
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Old 02-25-2004, 07:01 AM   #114
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Hey gordon!

Oem springs at the back??? How is the ride? Comfy?

Anyways a while back I mentioned that I got my HKS coilovers at 5F 4R Spring rates. Pretty good but damn they were bouncy up front. Then a tuner/friend told me the rear were too stiff and this caused the bouncy front end so I'm waiting for HKS' 3R springs.

Maybe this will be like using after market springs up front with OEM springs at the back
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Old 02-25-2004, 02:18 PM   #115
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Anybody know when the prodrive '04 wagon springs are due, I'm sick of waiting for them
I talked with prodrive earlier in the month and they said later this month on their springs.....not wagon specific I don't think. So I'd venture to guess they are available now or in the next week or so.

Call em up....or email for info.

But you should be able to get them very very soon if not now.

I'm waiting til April. If they don't have wagon specific I'll just get the sedan. They wagons only 70 pounds heavier in the back anyways. and the previous prodrive stuff seemed to work extremely well on both?
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Old 02-25-2004, 05:19 PM   #116
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Oem springs at the back??? How is the ride? Comfy?
Rides awesome. The Eibachs are only slightly stiffer than stock (~5%, I think), so you can barely tell the difference. For reference, going for 16" to 17" wheels made a much bigger difference in ride. And it didn't noticeably increase oversteer either - tire pressure has at least as much effect.

Eibachs in front & EOM in back - it's the bomb!
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Old 03-01-2004, 03:13 PM   #117
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$555 shipped for Koni's! After quite a bit of shopping around the next lowest price I can find is $608. Alex, how in the world are you doing that? That price is almost too good to be true.

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Old 03-01-2004, 03:32 PM   #118
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lol, I opened the business for fellow racers like me.
Practically no profit there but satisfaction that I helped guys that enjoy the cars as much as I do.

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Old 03-01-2004, 05:21 PM   #119
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lol, I opened the business for fellow racers like me.
Practically no profit there but satisfaction that I helped guys that enjoy the cars as much as I do.

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alex you are one cool dude. i am gonna get these from you just for that reason. other than the fact that you cant find em cheper anywhere else.
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Old 03-01-2004, 05:30 PM   #120
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Prodrive didn't do wagon specific springs for the 02-03, so I doubt there'll be an version for the 04. The only aftermarket company to do a wagon specific spring is Eibach. They did a 02-03 spring, an 04 version is coming soon or may already be available.
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Old 03-01-2004, 06:06 PM   #121
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tein makes a wagon specific s-tech.
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Old 03-01-2004, 07:13 PM   #122
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I have H&R springs on my 2002 Wagon, still with the stock struts.
How do you like the drop on the wagon with the H&Rs? You need to get the Konis and let us know how well they work. This combo is under serious consideration for my next setup.
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Old 03-01-2004, 09:27 PM   #123
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>tein makes a wagon specific s-tech

Nope. Check they're web site. Their wagon and sedan springs are the same - same part #, same spring rates.
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Old 03-02-2004, 12:13 AM   #124
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Sorry Mark, TEIN did make a Wagon specific S-Tech spring. I've got a set sitting in my garage and the box says GGB, which is a wagon. This was 02-03.

Part # SKS30-S1B00


WRX Sedan 02-03 Part # SKS34-AUB00


They're for sale if anyone wants them.

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Old 03-02-2004, 01:26 PM   #125
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Sorry Mark, TEIN did make a Wagon specific S-Tech spring. I've got a set sitting in my garage and the box says GGB, which is a wagon. This was 02-03.

Part # SKS30-S1B00


WRX Sedan 02-03 Part # SKS34-AUB00


They're for sale if anyone wants them.
tein maDe a wagon specific s-tech.

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