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Old 05-23-2000, 09:52 AM   #1
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Lightbulb Impreza WRC

I was watching the Safari rally...over and over...and over and I noticed there was a couple of shots of the Impreza engine. Those intake runners/pipes are HUGE!!!
I also noticed that, as with the new race car, the intercooler is in the front. I know it has been like this for a while now (how long is beyond me), but is it possible that the new production Impreza will no longer have the hood scoop? I know none of you know for sure but I was just thinking it may be possible.
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Old 05-23-2000, 10:00 AM   #2
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i'd have to agree w/you....
but i HATE specualation...

yet - based on the latest production models we've been seeing - the hood scoops are disappearing quickly.... look at the new Legacy??? where's da scoop???

i liked the scoop... it looked MEAN
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Old 05-23-2000, 10:08 AM   #3
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NO!
It is already known the new Impreza will have a hood scoop, and a usefull one, it is believed to be bigger then the current one so they can fit a bigger intercooler.
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Old 05-23-2000, 10:09 AM   #4
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I think it still going to have the scoop since Subaru said that the Impreza will be a performance car. Look at the new Ccelica it has a scoop. What I think is going to be gone are the air vents which I really like too.
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Old 05-24-2000, 02:58 PM   #5
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So anyway I took a look at a couple of recent topics (Maternity Leave?) and I thought I would bring something about cars back up to the front/top.
Now I need to start a good debate...hmmmmmm
What does everyone think about the addition of the Cyprus rally? The driver don't seem to care too much for it.
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(gotta fix that spelling of Cyprus)

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Old 05-24-2000, 03:09 PM   #6
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no of course they don't like the idea of it!!

a last minute addition...
no time to prep the car...
no time to get accurate notes...
no way it should be allowed....!!

and did you see THIS: http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/Forum1/HTML/004949.html

oh i am sooooooooooo pissed!! this is going to be a mess!! positively!!
but... i will have to tell u all about it when i get back!!

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Old 05-24-2000, 03:15 PM   #7
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Hmmm, beeper on overtime on that thread f*beep* b*beep* w*beep* b*beep* f*beep* etc etc Its a real nightmare The RAC is no more, its just turning into a pathetic excuse for a rally and is going to cost the earth. Gone are the days when we could watch for free Sorry gone way off topic, but its annoying.
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Old 05-24-2000, 03:17 PM   #8
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I think the idea of a new course would be great. This won't give them all the time they need to tinker with the cars to make them just "perfect", I guess its going to be a racers, race. Ah well if it comes down to the driver, Burnsy will be on top as usual
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Old 05-24-2000, 03:21 PM   #9
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I can't remeber which one of the drivers said this but it's a good point:
'Why add a race to the calender that has no advertising value?'
How many Impreza are sold in Cyprus?

As for the ticket to the GB Rally, what a joke. After the mess at Silverstone this year how bad can it be?
It doesn't sound like the brightest idea.

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Nice to see SG and Hucker getting along.

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Old 05-24-2000, 03:27 PM   #10
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Wouldn't the hood scoop have a hard time working correctly without the vents. From my basic understanding the hoodscoop and front grill send large volumes of air into the engine bay. Once the engine bay has too much air it ends up with a higher air pressure then whats outside the car and less and less air starts to go through the hoodscoop. Wasn't that part of the reasoning for the vents? To let air out of the engine bay easier. With air going around the scoop versus thru it you would end up with even worse aerodynamics for the car. That is why they say the GM ram air doesn't work as efficiently as they would like it to. Wasn't that also the reasoning for the Evo having the large exits on the hood to allow for more air to go through the front intercooler and radiator? Isn't the Evo's small inlet on the hood where the airbox is located? With the US Legacy having no plans of a future turbo they have no need of the hood scoop. That may be why they are dropping it. As far as a added stage of the WRC goes I kind of like the idea. The WRC claims that these cars are built for any kind of driving and that they are the best built and best equipped. Well throwing a suprise race shouldn't be that difficult for a pro race team. That and I want more events in the WRC. Stretch it out about as long as baseball and have races in the US while they are at it. The thread about the cap on tickets for the one event would make me mad as hell too. I don't see how they could keep citizens off of public property though especially in a forest?
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Old 05-24-2000, 03:28 PM   #11
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i think that most of the teams would have NO setup problems with Cyprus, as I remember it's been in the European Championship since Adam was a boy..

Ok now watch Arik come and correct me

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Old 05-24-2000, 03:29 PM   #12
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hey Mel

if Hucker likes Burnsy... how bad can he be???? Maybe we'll become best email pals and chatter all day long now that i know this!!!


seriously tho...
not a smart move $$$ & advert-wise....
although a new wrc course that nobody knows will bring out the TRUE capabilities/skills of the drivers... ya think?
hmmm.... puttin my man to the test!!!!




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Old 05-24-2000, 03:44 PM   #13
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The new course will be the true test.
However, we all know that the man Burns is gonna smoke 'em all.
(No question in my mind...you? hehehe)

-Mel

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Old 05-25-2000, 02:13 AM   #14
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The main reason the teams are unhappy about the inclusion of the Cyprus rally is down to logistics.

It is bang in the middle of the rally finland(1000 lakes), a loose surface event at the northern end of the continent, and the tour of corsica, which is asphalt, in the mediteranian.

Bot the events require entirely different spares and car specs and the logistics for organising this has been in place for months.

teams will now have just 2 days to completely restock there service vehicles after rally finland.

Mitsubishi are talking about having to have a temperary depot set up somewhere in the middle of france in order to restock for corsica.

Some of the teams have already planed to re-allocate the budget originaly set aside for the cancelled china rally and have cancelled orders for engines and other spare parts.

many people "in the know" believe there is a political reason for this decision. Cyprus is not part of the European Union and is therefore outside the terms of the FIA's dispute with the European Commision over the control of international motorsport.

The decision to run this event was taken by a fax vote at the FIA by 25 people. Of these 25, 2 are manufacturer representatives, both voted against its inclusion! There is no driver representatives on the rally commision!

To quote richard burns "I don't know who the other people on the world council are, but they're not doing their job"

It is an unprecedented decision to include a substitute event in the WRC, i hope for the sports sake it doesnt turn into a disaster.
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Old 05-25-2000, 05:35 AM   #15
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If it makes them feel better we can hold a event on the the Beltway around D.C. or Baltimore. We will even schedule it around the other events. It will be at rush hour and involve every driving skill known to man. There will be paved sections, not so paved sections, gravel sections (road construction areas), jumps caused by sagging overpasses, debris on the road, moving obstacles, banzai SUV drivers and the chance of being run off the road and doing some real rally conditions. OK I was just joking. I wasn't aware of any of the particulars as to why it was planned on such short notice or why it was going to be a logistics nightmare. I think most of us in the US just want to see more WRC regaurdless of where it is held.
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Old 05-25-2000, 05:38 PM   #16
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Ha ha Subie_Gal, I have nothing against you at all, you stuck with your guns and I have more respect for you by doing that. I think we kinda just mis-understood each other Burnsy IS the ruler, there should be something in the Oxford dictionary under the heading.

Rally Racing - Richard Burns, enough said

Oh yeah, SpeedVisions coverage is a joke, I'm glad to hear that someone, bought air time and we might actually get more than 30 mins of pure joy
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Old 05-25-2000, 08:14 PM   #17
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Ok...Ok...I have a confession to make.
I am Richard Burns. I have used an alias in order to get on to this board.
How do I type and race at the same time? Good question.
As with the newly installed wetbar in my car I also have a laptop hooked up to a cell phone.
I tell you this board is important to me.

-Mel (RB)
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