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Old 05-22-2000, 02:14 AM   #1
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Question RS 2.5 Vs. VR6 Jetta

I live in Israel and own an Impreza GT, and here they sell the Golf V6 4motion (204 HP) and it is still nowhere near the Impreza, and already lost in all the car magazines and on the road.
I would like to know how do you rate your RS to the Jetta VR6 (I understand it's 174 HP and FWD) and how many would stick to the Scoob (no price factor)?
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Old 05-22-2000, 06:50 AM   #2
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A sock RS will get the jump off the line, and it should be close to 60, though over that, forget it; the VR6 will walk away from the RS. A friend of mine has a chipped VR6, wwith a bunch of mods, but after my stage 1 turbo (no intercooler) I was tons faster, again, except over 105 mph....then it was bye-bye RS. Now that I am at stage 2, no contest......I can send out for lunch while waiting for my VW competition to catch up!
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Old 05-22-2000, 08:37 AM   #3
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GO ADAM! heh!

I'll race you, Adam! Just gimme a 15.8 second head start.
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Old 05-22-2000, 08:46 AM   #4
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oh please!!

0-60.... i can take the VR6 in my Legacy GT - er... my AUTOMATIC-SLUSH-BOX GT!!!

not that you'll catch me racing one on the street... let's just say i know i can take one... former Jetta owner here...
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Old 05-22-2000, 09:21 AM   #5
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Given the fact that the vr6 has more hp and torque than our imprezas, and assuming equal driver skills I think the vr6 be it golf or jetta whould beat the rs. Unless it's raining or snowing. Let's be reasonable....
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Old 05-22-2000, 09:30 AM   #6
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I my experience (one RS vs. Jetta VR6 race) you can jump out ahead of the VR6 at the start and then stay there. At least until 60mph!
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Old 05-22-2000, 11:45 AM   #7
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Speaking as an ex-VR6 GTI owner, stock vs stock, the VR6 will definitely win over any distance unless its driver has a slow getaway, or the road is wet.

But find a few corners, or a rough road and you'll lose the VR6 for sure, thanks to its numb-feeling steering and over-sprung suspension.
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Old 05-22-2000, 11:57 AM   #8
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My friend has a 1995 VR6 Jetta GLX. I can get the jump off of the line and then hold it for a little bit. It's close until just after I put in in fourth. After that he's gone. The gears in the Jetta are so long there's not match once you get up to that speed. I bet he's barely in second when I'm shifting into third.
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Old 05-22-2000, 12:27 PM   #9
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Off the line the Scooby will win hands down. After that the VR6 will start pulling away.

In the twisties... geesh the RS would hold an advantage. The stock A3 suspension blows. I can't stand the bobbing and weaving it goes through.

I know from experience on the highway that the RS has a semi-tough time keeping up with the Jetta, but remember that's what this car does best. It's not a stoplight racer really... it comes into it's own on the highway.

Either way the RS and the Jetta are very fun and unique cars.

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Old 05-22-2000, 12:43 PM   #10
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Well, I'd have to say that a later version Corrado with some suspension mods would be more than willing to hold tail with the RS in the corners....
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Old 05-22-2000, 12:49 PM   #11
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Now that I would agree with. Buddy has a '92 SLC stock suspension, Garret chip. That has nothing but grip and grunt. Pretty amazing cars. Probably still one of the best handling fwd cars I have driven in.
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Old 05-22-2000, 03:00 PM   #12
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Most VR6s don't like to race me, but the Turbo Bugs LOve to. I get killed everytime that's y i'm gettin a intake and Pulley to try and keep up.
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Old 05-22-2000, 10:13 PM   #13
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Are the latest Jetta's still a VR6? Or are they using the Audi 2.8L V-6? I can't remember.

Anyway, at the open track event I went to about 2 months ago, there was a brand new Jetta V6 (VR6?) in my run group (novice). It was all stock, running on stock H-rated tires. I, on the other hand, was running my Legacy 2.5GT with 18mm bar and Nexus tires. I was *extremely* impressed by how well the Jetta handled on the stock tires. In the first couple sessions I was not able to get by him due to his substantial advantage in the straights, and good cornering ability.

As I got better on the track, I passed the Jetta in a couple of the later sessions. Of course, if it had not been a school, I would not have been able to pass him. I was catching him in the corners, but he still would have wasted me in the straightaways.

So, depending on how twisty the road is, and how good the driver is, it could be a pretty tight match.

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Old 05-23-2000, 08:00 AM   #14
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The A4 Jetta/Golf's can still be VR6 powered. They are not using the Audi 2.8 V6.

The newer suspension is a heck of lot more rigid than the A3 Jetta/Golf (what I have), but it's a bit softer. VW has a nasty habit of putting crappy OEM tires on their cars. I guess sort of like what they do with the RS. My car came stock with Goodyear GA's. For those who don't know these tires are so bad that it makes the suspension problem that much worse. I just upgraded to RE730's and it made a hell of a difference.

Overall the VR6 has really impressed me. Too bad VW didn't do something more with the suspension.

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Old 05-23-2000, 08:04 AM   #15
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Golf VR6s and 1.8Ts with manual transmissions are wonderful. I've never been a Jetta fan, really... at least after familiarizing myself with Golfs more.

The VR6 is definitely the badder beast, but that's only until you hit corners. As said above, the suspension loses in the VW...
The RS is a much tighter car, with a *much* stiffer chassis.

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Old 05-23-2000, 08:13 AM   #16
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When shopping for a new car, I had test drove a VR6 Golf. I loved it, it had a little spunk. I had it priced out, and was gonna take a night to think it over. I walked out the back of the dealership (Subaru in the back, BMW in the front, and VW on the side) and I saw my car. I knew before I test drove it, it was mine. Once I test drove it, I knew it was better. For the AWD, It had cloth (something you cant get in a VR6 golf 2000), and from 0-60, it was much more "spunky". Yeah, from 60-90 the VR6 had some nice torque for the speed range, but I see 10 VR6 Golfs, to my 1 (or 2) Impreza's.

I love me kar!

Oh, the Impreza was about 2500 cheaper!
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