Broken Subzero

[ImprezedRS]

oh and one more thing I got about 3k miles on them, car has been driven about once or twice a month since I got the rims

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[Luke@tirerack]

Originally posted by ImprezedRS
about 5-12 oz in weight to get them somewhat balanced.

12 ounces !!!!! that's ridiculous .... have the shop rotate the tires 180 degrees on the wheels

[rota wheels wrx]

ImprezedRS- Most likely the wheel is out of round or a little bent that is why it is asking for more weights than usual.

Or it could just be that when the new tires were mounted, there was a mismatch between tire and wheel. Like Luke said, try rotating the tire 180 degrees and rebalance. If that does not solve your problem, e-mail me and let's figure your problem out.

You would definetely see a visible crack before you feel the vibration.

[ImprezedRS]

Yeah I have moved the tire 180 degrees on the tire. I will check the rims tonight and look for cracks.

The problem like i said was I mounted my tires and they were fine and now I had to rebalance them and there off. Only one set of tires mounted on there. Like I said above theres only about 3k miles on the tires, the car has sat in the garage. Also when I store the car I put on my 16s not to flat spot my 18s. But I will look over the rims.

[gdog]

Mine were made November 2001, so they were close to the known-bad batch but were made before the problem came to light. Rota has since changed their process to address the issue, so I wouldn't worry too much if they're that new (but if you frequently put excessive stress on any wheel, you should inspect them as part of your mount/dismount procedures).

No vibration was felt until after it had cracked, and I didn't notice it from the driver's side until my instructor pointed it out.

[blk04]

Originally posted by TubeDriver
I like Volks design/looks but don't belive in buying wheels that are not hubcentric. Volks like many other wheels are universal fit (generic bolt patterns and offsets with a large center bore and some adaptor rings). Some people claim it's no big difference but you will not find an OEM wheel that is not hubcentric. It minimizes the possibity of problems. Too bad not many people make a hubcentric wheel for either one of my cars and I am not really ready to drop 4k on a set of hubcentric Kenesis wheels.

I believe they are hub-centric but, if they are not ... atleast I don't have to worry about them breaking. I always say you get what you pay for. I did not know that there was generic bolt patterns and offsets.... I thought bolt patterns where there too fit certain car makes and offsets.. too accordingly fit and clear suspension parts or brakes of such things.... Moving forward I would like to say that Volks is one of the best rims I've owned. However Rota's are the best value.. economically speaking.

[TubeDriver]

My Slipstreams and Subzeroes are both hubcentric. It is possible that the Volks just happen to have the correct bore size but that would be due to luck (in other words they are not designed that way specifically for the WRX). If they are indeed hubcentric, I would consider getting a set (of Volks) if I ever have a problem with my Rotas. The forged Volks are indeed an excellent wheel but fitment is as important as build.

Originally posted by blk04
I believe they are hub-centric but, if they are not ... atleast I don't have to worry about them breaking. I always say you get what you pay for. I did not know that there was generic bolt patterns and offsets.... I thought bolt patterns where there too fit certain car makes and offsets.. too accordingly fit and clear suspension parts or brakes of such things.... Moving forward I would like to say that Volks is one of the best rims I've owned. However Rota's are the best value.. economically speaking.

[ImprezedRS]

From what I have heard is that the Volks high offset 5x100s are made specifically for the Subarus.

rota wheels wrx I replied to your pm.

[mbeach]

Volk high offset wheels (5x100) require a hub-centric ring adapter.

[TheWRX]

Originally posted by gdog
Mine were made November 2001, so they were close to the known-bad batch

So what's the deal with this "known bad batch" of Subzeros? The only bad batch I remember reading about was Attacks. I just spent about an hour searching and reading all related old threads, and came up empty. I even found a post by "rota wheels wrx" from 3/16/2003 saying: "The only wheels on the street with a problem are the early attacks."

I have two sets of Subzeros from around that time. One wheel is from batch A11/01, the seven others from B11/01. Is there something I should know?

[rota wheels wrx]

There are really no bad batch subzeros. What there was 20 wheels that were special order for one use only track wheels that were sold to the public by mistake. The wheels have been accounted for but there were some loose sets that are floating around (like 3 or 4 wheels)

All those wheels were not for a Subaru so they are not hubcentric 56.1 hub

[Orson]

Originally posted by ImprezedRS
Some of them now have about 5-12 oz in weight to get them somewhat balanced. When i first got them it only took about 0-2 oz at most.

I think there's something wrong with the wheel. You can try rotating the tire on the wheel, but I doubt that it will take care of that much weight.

My experience in the past has been that anything in the neighborhood of 6 ounces points to the wheel. I used to have a set of aftermarket wheels where one particular wheel regularly needed 6+ ounces and the others needed no more than 2 ounces. This was always the case, even after I went through four different sets of tires.

[ImprezedRS]

Originally posted by Orson
I think there's something wrong with the wheel. You can try rotating the tire on the wheel, but I doubt that it will take care of that much weight.

My experience in the past has been that anything in the neighborhood of 6 ounces points to the wheel. I used to have a set of aftermarket wheels where one particular wheel regularly needed 6+ ounces and the others needed no more than 2 ounces. This was always the case, even after I went through four different sets of tires.

I already tried the rotating the tire on the wheel already still the same. its balances all wacky and still not balanced.

[GimmickMotorsports]

Could be bent.Have you checked the inner and outer lips?

[Penphoe]

Originally posted by ImprezedRS
I already tried the rotating the tire on the wheel already still the same. its balances all wacky and still not balanced.

Are these wheels hubcentric? I've got a set of the 1st gen Subzeros which are NOT hubcentric. At first, I'd get a wierd vibration at around 60mph. I traced it down to the wheel not being centred properly on the hub. I have to essentially centre it by hand by hand tightening the lugnuts, then I'd torque them down in the star pattern to make sure they're tight and centred.

Once I figured that out, no vibrations!

LaterZ!
Darren!!

[mkkawamo]

Sorry to dig up an old thread...

Tried PMing rota wheels wrx, haven't gotten a reply yet. My Subzero developed a crack in one of the spokes. I have pictures in this thread. I'm trying to see if there is any remedy, or any warranty resolution.