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Old 06-08-2000, 06:25 AM   #1
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Question Re-wiring for fogs only...is this illegal?

I met a guy yesterday that owns a shop that specializes in exotic cars and Subarus. I know...where is the connection there! I guess the fact that he drives, and always has driven, Subarus. Anywho, I talked to him about re-wiring the fogs so that they work independently of the headlights and he said that he could do it no problem at all. He did however, say that it was illegal to drive with just the fog lights on. Has anyone here ever been stopped or ticketed for this? I used to drive with my fogs only on other cars and never had a problem. I'd like to have this done, but I don't want to break the law.
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Old 06-08-2000, 06:32 AM   #2
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it depends on the state really. The day time it's usually ok, you can claim they are DRL. At night, bad idea. Ask a police officer down there.
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Old 06-08-2000, 06:32 AM   #3
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never heard that one...
never been stopped for it...
been doing it for years...

i have heard it's illegal to drive w/parking lights only but come on!!! are they really gonna ticket you for that???

hey subaru cop guys????
can you answer this one??

i know we have a couple...
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Old 06-08-2000, 06:34 AM   #4
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Headlight laws are a state by state law and enforcement is pretty inconsistant except in California. The most common law pertaining to this is no highbeams and foglights(auxilary lights) at the same time.
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Old 06-08-2000, 06:35 AM   #5
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I'm positive it is illegal at night, but in the daytime, who cares. I would think it would be encouraged. As many cars that have DRL's now-adays, you'd think the fogs on our cars would be great for that! I think I'm gonna go for it.
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Old 06-08-2000, 08:54 AM   #6
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I was pulled over in Lehighton, PA last year by a local officer in the middle of a whiteout snowstorm for driving with only my fog lights on. I was running 100W gold bulbs (white light to oncoming traffic, but scatters amber to the driver) at the time. The cop pointed out that it was illegal and unsafe because the lower fog lights make it look like a car farther away.

As politely as possible, I reasoned with him that because white light scatters and causes glare when reflected off snow, I switched on my fog lights to give me a better amber view with less glare. When he actually popped his head into my window and looked out the windshield, he saw that even though the bulbs were white, they did cast an amber light.

Fairly impressed, not only did he let me go, but he also asked about where I bought them. I promptly gave him the URL for my Web site which has links to Competition Limited. I assume he purchased a pair...I also assume that, by going to their site, he figured out that I was running 100W fogs and 145W mains.

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Old 06-08-2000, 09:08 AM   #7
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Oh, Sean - you Are a naughty one - do you get hi-beamed a lot? I run 80/80s up top, an 85w gold foggies - I usually don't rile too many people.

ps - how's your wiring holding up?and, uh - could you post that Comp. Ltd. link?

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Old 06-08-2000, 09:28 AM   #8
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I want to rewire my sidemarkers since I got them cleared out I want them on all the time, not just when I have the turn signal on. Does that screw with your warrenty and or is it illeagal
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Old 06-08-2000, 09:48 AM   #9
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Mayhew...I don't think that is will mess with your warranty. I mean, if you have a fire due to faulty wiring and it burns up your seat, you can't tell them that you need a new seat covered by warranty. You get my point. And I'm pretty sure it's not illegal for the sidemarkers to be on all the time. My moms RAV4 is like that...they are on all the time.
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Old 06-08-2000, 09:54 AM   #10
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Those big lights down there work I just thought they were for looks

PS: Subie Gal you're a hottie

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Old 06-08-2000, 10:14 AM   #11
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cvalle-sd: Honestly, I've never been high-beamed with the 100W/145W mains and the 100W fogs (I only run with fogs in nasty weather). However, I was constantly high-beamed with the stock lights. I still can't figure that one out...anyway, here you go...

Competition Limited is where I get all of my lighting toys. I'm running with their high-wattage harness (CS6119J for MY98 OBS), H3 100W Gold fogs and H4R 100W/145W Rally mains. I'll eventually be buying a second harness to upgrade the foglight lighting...the current wiring can handle it at the connectors, but it's really thin wire.

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Old 06-08-2000, 10:23 AM   #12
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Sean!
You neglected to mention that Comp Ltd owner, Gene Henderson, is a long-time rallyist with Subaru connections, having setup factory entries for the AlCan 5000, and such.
He has relay and harness setups available for Subaru (& other brands) that can protect that flimsy OEM wiring....and he's fun to talk to...!
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