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Old 01-15-2004, 10:22 AM   #1
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Default New to Z rated tires + winter....

My sube isn't a winter car, but i figured i'd try to take it to work today, currently it's rolling on stock wheels wrapped in 205-55-16 Kuhmo 712s, this thing doesn't move AT ALL in the snow! I can lose traction 5% tps @ 1200rpms in 1st!

is this the norm for any z rated tires in snow? i've always owned all seasons before
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pretty normal for a summer tire in the snow and cold

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Old 01-15-2004, 10:32 AM   #3
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Yep....well at least most Z-rated high perfomance summer tires and many max performance "all season" tires. The rubber compound gets too hard for one and the tread just isn't designed to shed snow and water. Now try out some Dunlop Wintersport M3s (a z-rated snowtire) and you will have a blast in this stuff. Fairly aggressive tread pattern but also with good snow capabiltiy and tons of siping.
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Default Re: New to Z rated tires + winter....

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My sube isn't a winter car, but i figured i'd try to take it to work today, currently it's rolling on stock wheels wrapped in 205-55-16 Kuhmo 712s, this thing doesn't move AT ALL in the snow! I can lose traction 5% tps @ 1200rpms in 1st!

is this the norm for any z rated tires in snow? i've always owned all seasons before
If you are going to drive in snow you pretty much need some snow tires in place of summer tires. Then you have the best for both conditions. Or you could have gone with all seasons for average performance all of the time.

I have summer S0-3's on 17" wheels and winter WS-50's on 16" wheels. This is a combination which works best for me.
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I have a set of blizzack LM22's on another set of stock rims that came with the car, i just didn't bother mounting them cause i'm not going to drive it in the winter, just wanted to try it out today

i was just surprised that you really cannot safely drive, even at low speed, with these tires, ABS pulsates the breaks to no avail heh
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Dunlop Wintersport M3s (a z-rated snowtire)
"H" or "V" .... no "Z" rated winter tires are made
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My bad...V-rated.
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I know ... just pulling your chain
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