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Old 01-21-2004, 07:32 PM   #1
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I have a 1996 OBS wagon w/ about 194k on what I believe to be the original suspension. In looking for replacement/upgrades, I think I've found what I want, but would like some opinions/comments from anyone running the same setup.

I've already got a sedan 20mm rear sway bar, as well as some better tires.

I'm thinking about getting the V5 struts and matching them with a set of the Prodrive P1 springs. I'd also be looking at getting new STI strut tops, as I'm pretty sure mine could use replacing at this mileage. I'm also thinking solid rear swaybar links.

Now, a few questions:

Will the STI strut top mounts fit my OBS?
Will I have any fitment issues with the struts/springs seeing as how they're not wagon and/or OBS specific?
I think I will be ok w/ the P1 springs since they don't lower too much, but is there anything else I should be aware of with this setup?
I can't find any info on OBS spring rates, but would I be better off keeping the OBS springs & matching them to the V5 struts?
Will I be able to get my alignment back to spec, or will I need anything else?
Also, anything else suspension-wise I REALLY should be replacing now?

Sorry about the rambling,


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Old 01-22-2004, 09:36 AM   #2
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Old 01-22-2004, 09:49 AM   #3
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Yes, the STi tops will fit your OBS just fine (as long as you get the ones for the GC/GF/GM chassis cars ). V5 struts and P1 springs will work fantastically (that was what the P1 suspension was Ver. 5/6 struts with Prodrive specified Eibach made springs). I believe linsavy was running this suspension on his GF wagon and he reported nothing but good things.

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Old 01-22-2004, 01:58 PM   #4
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Trent, I am running with AGX and P1s with the STi tops. The V5 struts are good too. There is another thread on this topic just a bit lower down the page.
I would go with the AGX if money is important to you as long as you don't want to rallyx.
You won't have trouble with alignment as the drop is pretty minor. But why would you want the stock alignment? Dial in max camber up front and you will be happy with the results.
For maximum goodness, get an ALK instead of the rear endlinks.

The V5 struts are too much for stock OBS springs. Your OBS springs are reported to have similar rate to the RS but are a touch longer.

Take the savings from AGX over V5s to buy the ALK and nice alignment. Spend the left over on some autox or a track day. You might want to think about a rear strut bar, but it is only a minor benefit and takes up cargo space.
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Old 01-23-2004, 12:57 AM   #5
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Ok, being a suspension n00b, how hard will it be to get the AGX's dialed in 'right'. That's the main reason I'd choose the V5's over the AGX's. I'm not sure I'd be able to get them set ok for street, let along make the 'correct' adjustments to use for auto-x.

I guess I'll either be looking at V5/P1/STI strut tops or AGX/P1/STI strut tops. I don't really want to do an ALK, as I've heard it's a PITA to install. And yes, I plan on doing many auto-x this summer.


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Old 01-23-2004, 01:45 AM   #6
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Setting the AGX's is as simple as 'breaking them in' at a mid setting for a couple hundred miles and then dialing them to whatever you feel like suites you the best...
If you want it firmer...dial 'em up a notch....got too firm...back 'em down a notch.
You can use different settings front to back if you wish, and many people do, to get the ride you want. It isn't hard to fugure out, and once you get them set you may never change them again or depending on your usage you may want to change them every weekend
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Old 01-23-2004, 03:50 PM   #7
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Right, AGXs are dead easy to adjust - just 4 settings on the front that you access with a little screw driver at the top. The rears have 8 settings that you sort of need to crawl under the car to reach. I change the settings before and after each autox and often between runs.
1/2 is my winter setting
2/4 in my summer setting
2/6 to 4/8 are my autox settings.
The stiffer settings make slaloms in the autox much quicker and easier to drive. The V5s don't allow you to dial in anything. They are good struts but not optimized for street or autox. Kind of like how all season tires are not optimized for summer or snow.
The ALK is really good for autox if you don't get camber plates. The extra caster and less slop is great. You can get the offset bushing type too that is legal for STX. It doesn't add much NVH.
Installing it is way easier that swapping springs and struts. You get yourself the wrench and a rubber hammer and the control arm bolt comes off pretty well. Took me about 1 hour to do both sides.
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Old 01-23-2004, 04:41 PM   #8
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Ok, it looks like I'm gonna go w/ the Agx's w/ P1's & STI strut tops.

Will I need camber bolts in the rear?


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Will I need camber bolts in the rear?


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You may not NEED then, but you will probably WANT them
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Old 01-23-2004, 11:15 PM   #10
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Ok, so it's kind of a 'while you're in there' mod? Just want to know so I get it all ordered/installed @ once...

Anything else I need to get this put in? My goal is to assemble the struts/springs/top hats ahead of time and have them ready to go and swap out so I can go get an alignment the next day. Anything else I should be looking at?


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Old 01-24-2004, 12:59 AM   #11
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Yeah....While you're down there
I would wait a couple days/hundred miles before an alignment....what if something is bad out of the box or breaks soon after install??? or something isn't tight and fubars the alignment?...or....
Also, to do it all ahead of time, you will need to buy the rubber isolaters that go between the spring and top perch...the bumpstops and dustboots and the spacer washers that go between thetop of the perch and the strut top...
For the front, the parts needed are about $80+shipping from subaruparts.com and for the rear they are about $95+shipping.

Best to wait until everything settles to get an alignment...your tires won't get eaten up even if the alignment is bad in a couple hunderd miles and everything can get nice and happy with eachother.
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