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Old 01-26-2004, 02:41 PM   #1
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Post Life Hammer Auto Escape Tool

I didn't want to post this in the other thread.

I did just want to let people know of the existence of these tools, and similar tools. Who knows if it would have helped in this case, and every situation is different. It sounds like everyone did everything they could in this case. But I know am going to go buy one now.




http://www.lifehammer.com/ or similar, available at Target etc.

Edit: this is not supposed to be a "what if" thread or anything like that, and if this upsets anyone in anyway (no matter how small) please just PM me or the mods to remove it.
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Old 01-26-2004, 02:48 PM   #2
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How large is it... i question the legality of it. Could this be considered a weapon?

Good post!
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Old 01-26-2004, 02:51 PM   #3
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Small, maybe 6" I think.

I'm sure they are legal. They are available at your local Kragens PepBoys and even gas stations.
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Old 01-26-2004, 03:33 PM   #4
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ya, they are legal. my buddies family has one in every car. I think I might buy one now.

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Old 01-26-2004, 03:35 PM   #5
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How large is it... i question the legality of it. Could this be considered a weapon?

Good post!
Extremely legal. It's about 8 or so inches in length and weighs not too much. It's actual name is Biel (sp?) tool, been in the fire service for a while. I believe Mercedes actually offered these things as optional equipment a while back.
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Old 01-26-2004, 03:36 PM   #6
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How large is it... i question the legality of it. Could this be considered a weapon?

Good post!
California's laws are oriented something like this: If you use something as a weapon, it's a weapon. So if you hit someone over the head with a torque wrench, that was a weapon.
But if you are working on your car and have a torque wrench in your hand and aren't threatening anyone, it's a tool.

If it's a folding ASP designed for impact use on human skeletal system, and you have it in your car, the cops will not appreciate it, and you will probably be contacting your lawyer soon.

Unless you're a complete Men4ce 2 Society and hit someone with it, I don't see anyone interpreting your having a rescue hammer in your car as being a weapon.
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Old 01-26-2004, 04:22 PM   #7
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I've got a center punch in my glove box.

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Old 01-26-2004, 05:17 PM   #8
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Somebody did a test of those recently... I can't remember who (Consumer Reports or something) and found that its almost impossible to break a window with one of those, and the seatbelt cutter doesn't work either.

If it makes you feel better, buy one, but I wouldn't put to much faith in one.

In the recent crash, the windows were probably already broken (that's what it looks like from the pics). There were probably other reasons why the victims couldn't have been saved...

-Charlie
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Old 01-26-2004, 05:32 PM   #9
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I've got a center punch in my glove box.

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Old 01-26-2004, 07:16 PM   #10
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Somebody did a test of those recently... I can't remember who (Consumer Reports or something) and found that its almost impossible to break a window with one of those, and the seatbelt cutter doesn't work either.

There have probably been lots of tests/reviews, but I saw an episode of 20/20, which tested emergency tools, like the "Life Hammer." As mentioned, the device was deemed useless, as NEITHER the cutter or hammer portion were effective.

The testers reported that there's not enough room in the cabins of most passenger cars to produce the necessary force to shatter tempered glass windows. Instead, they suggest rolling down the window or opening the door AFTER the water pressure INSIDE the car has stabilized (water has filled most of the cabin).
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Old 01-26-2004, 07:20 PM   #11
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I saw that 20/20 too, the one where the reporter sits in a test car, and they flip him/it into the water, and he has to remain calm till the water pressure inside is the same as the outside, and then open the door.
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Old 01-26-2004, 07:30 PM   #12
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maybe it's a false sense of security, like driving an SUV.
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Old 01-26-2004, 07:42 PM   #13
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Centerpunch is the best...base of the window bam, instant shattered. I always carry a knife clipped onto my pocket so I guess thats fine....

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Old 01-26-2004, 09:59 PM   #14
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Old 01-27-2004, 02:35 AM   #15
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http://www.worstcasescenarios.com/sc...m?scenarioid=3
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Old 01-27-2004, 02:46 AM   #16
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Hey i have one of those...in my trunk...in a bag...
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Old 01-27-2004, 04:01 AM   #17
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California's laws are oriented something like this: If you use something as a weapon, it's a weapon. So if you hit someone over the head with a torque wrench, that was a weapon.

Forget it then.
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Old 01-27-2004, 11:00 AM   #18
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I thought about getting one of these a while back. I got close too, but then thought about the details such as where would I put it ?

I've been lucky enough to have been in a couple of roll-overs and few more good crashes (all as a passenger) and have noticed that when you hit something, everything goes flying around.

I remember getting rear-ended in an MR2 and the pull-out radio (yes this was a long time ago) flew out of the dash and hit the rear of the cabin.

I rolled in a 4x and everything wedged under the seats (old french fries, change, lost pens...) ended up on the roof as we stopped upside down.

Long story short, I didn't want this hammer flying around the cabin and taking someones eye out.... plus, living in so cal when am I ever going to go into a lake or river and need to break out a window ?
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Old 05-15-2012, 07:02 PM   #19
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Does anybody have good ideas where to put one in a 2012 Impreza 2.0i?
I am thinking to mount it right in front of the driver seat, like this:
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Old 05-15-2012, 09:40 PM   #20
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you know, how i know, your new here.
you posted in a thread from 2004
which people generally make fun of you for
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Old 05-15-2012, 10:04 PM   #21
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Dude how many pages back did you have to go to find this old ass thread from 04?! Seriously? Pretty awesome
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Old 05-15-2012, 10:18 PM   #22
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Sorry, I wanted to create a new thread in the interior mods forum but new members are actually not allowed to create threads. New members are directed to find relevant existing threads and post there. This thread seemed most fitting.
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