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Old 01-31-2004, 04:36 PM   #1
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Default Wanted INFO on Importing into canada

Has anyone here imported a STi from the US to Canada?
Iím looking for some more info on doing this as itís possible to get the
Car for invoice in the US via some dealers and now this Subaru ďVIPĒ program.

STi $46,995 CAD (MSRP)
STi $28,580 USD (Invoice) = $37,908.52 CAD
Thatís roughly a $9,000 savings, I imagine with paper work and adding daytime running lights its could cost a few thousand more still letís say it brings to down to 5 grand savings.. Thatís a few mods thatís can be had for basically free (free winter tires/rims)
plus you will have HIDS!!!!

Someone who has actually imported a car please send me some info!

or just a list of things that will have to be modified.
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Old 01-31-2004, 08:14 PM   #2
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You will have to pay a 6% duty when bringing into Canada. Also, I am pretty sure you will have to pay the state sales tax when you purchase the car in the US.

So that will add about 13% to the $37,908.

Also you will have to change the speedometer to km/h and odometer to km.

Are any Canadian Subaru dealer's selling the STi below MSRP yet?
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Old 01-31-2004, 08:26 PM   #3
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Old 01-31-2004, 10:05 PM   #4
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You will have to pay a 6% duty when bringing into Canada. Also, I am pretty sure you will have to pay the state sales tax when you purchase the car in the US.

So that will add about 13% to the $37,908.

Also you will have to change the speedometer to km/h and odometer to km.

Are any Canadian Subaru dealer's selling the STi below MSRP yet?
TAX is somthing i would have to pay here anyways so thats a given
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Old 02-01-2004, 02:19 AM   #5
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TAX is somthing i would have to pay here anyways so thats a given
Yes you are correct, either way you have to pay GST and provincial tax.

What I'm saying is you will have to pay the state sales tax at the dealership in the US, on top of the GST and provincial sales tax when you come to the border.

So by purchasing in the US, you are paying one more sales tax.
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Old 02-01-2004, 08:27 AM   #6
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you can apply for a state tax refund for so you just pay the taxes as normal
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Old 02-01-2004, 09:48 PM   #7
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I dont think you'd have to pay the state taxes. They cant charge taxes to a Canadian.

At least, thats how it is for other sales from the US...like, if you buy something online and have it shipped here, you dont pay State taxes...

or vice versa....if you have a store and someone orders something from you in the US, they are tax exept.

Although, you ARE buying INSIDE the US...so hmmmmm......
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Old 02-02-2004, 07:50 AM   #8
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BTW, It IS illegal to do what you are proposing according to the Tree Trade Agreement.

For information about importing cars to Canada, lookup information & form for RC4140

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/E/pub/cp/.../rc4140-e.html
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Old 02-02-2004, 09:45 AM   #9
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Just buy it in New Hampshire... No sales tax on cars...

I was looking at it, we're really getting ripped off here! I'm not certain how much duty you'd have to pay, I've emailed a few people.

Another interesting point is that Subaru Canada WILL honor the warranty of a US car in Canada. We got that from a source at Subaru.

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Old 02-02-2004, 01:27 PM   #10
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A little off topic, but how would it work if you had someone in the US buy a car, drive it up here, and then sell it to you? Would there be import fees/duties? Problems with registration? This would be for a vehicle that is available both here and in the US.
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Old 02-02-2004, 03:33 PM   #11
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A little off topic, but how would it work if you had someone in the US buy a car, drive it up here, and then sell it to you? Would there be import fees/duties? Problems with registration? This would be for a vehicle that is available both here and in the US.

It would be possible if an American citizen brings the car across the border, and then transfers ownership of the car.

The only problem I see is when you take the car to the provincial licensing authority for registration and plates. Maybe they would not know the difference that this is an imported car?
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Old 02-02-2004, 03:52 PM   #12
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It would be possible if an American citizen brings the car across the border, and then transfers ownership of the car.

The only problem I see is when you take the car to the provincial licensing authority for registration and plates. Maybe they would not know the difference that this is an imported car?
Yeah, the VIN would include country of origin I think.
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Old 02-04-2004, 04:22 AM   #13
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VIN only includes the country in which a car is made, NOT where it is sold, or re-sold for that matter.
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Old 02-04-2004, 09:46 AM   #14
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BTW, It IS illegal to do what you are proposing according to the Tree Trade Agreement.

For information about importing cars to Canada, lookup information & form for RC4140

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/E/pub/cp/.../rc4140-e.html
no it isnt. its 100% legal. its even on the list of admissible vehicles.

and no, you would not have to pay state tax.
you would have to pay:
7% GST
6.9% Duty
$150ish A/C tax
$200ish RIV fee

there is a guy here in calgary that imported his. its pretty insane what the price difference is. as fun as the sti is, i still regret buying it after seeing that price difference.
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Old 02-04-2004, 02:04 PM   #15
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Ok,
this is getting interesting.

One more thought... For tax purpose, let's say I drive the car from LA to Ottawa and come up to Canada Customs with a car that has 5000km on it, is it still considered new?

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Old 10-08-2004, 02:22 PM   #16
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Anybody noticed the exchange rate today - $1.26 for a US dollar. I just ran some numbers, being conservative and here's how it breaks down:
I'm using $31,000 for the USDM Sti - I know invoice is lower but that's probably realistic after a few upgrades, etc.


$39,000 - 2005 Sti
$2,700 - 6.9% Duty
$2,800 - 7 % GST
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$44,500 Canuck
Plus other taxes say $500
Total = $45,000

I've got the contact info for a guy who actually imported one to Alberta
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Old 10-13-2004, 02:16 AM   #17
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Just talked to a guy who imported an '04 from Boston into Alberta. He paid $28,200 US and ended up in the low 40s all in. DRLs and the safety check is a non-issue. Coordinating paperwork for the border it mucho important. My estimate confirms it $42,000. More info on Thursday, anybody interested in an '03 sedan with low ks?
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Old 10-13-2004, 03:13 AM   #18
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the previous owner of my my01 rs imported it from california to bc. I do know that it is very VERY important to have the paperwork in order, and you have to let Canadian and American customs know that you are importing the car at least 3 days in advance of when you actually hit the border. If you do not let them know in advance, the car will be impounded at your expense for probably a lengthy amount of time. Also, you do NOT have to change the speedometer from miles to km's, mine is in miles, at 12,400.
Hope this helps a little
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Old 10-13-2004, 06:46 PM   #19
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FYI - there would be no tax if you were gifted the car....
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Old 10-13-2004, 06:48 PM   #20
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FYI - there would be no tax if you were gifted the car....
That only works up to a few hundred bucks. I tried that angle
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Yup. $300.
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Old 10-15-2004, 02:52 AM   #22
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Anybody noticed the exchange rate today - $1.26 for a US dollar. I just ran some numbers, being conservative and here's how it breaks down:
I'm using $31,000 for the USDM Sti - I know invoice is lower but that's probably realistic after a few upgrades, etc.


$39,000 - 2005 Sti
$2,700 - 6.9% Duty
$2,800 - 7 % GST
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$44,500 Canuck
Plus other taxes say $500
Total = $45,000

I've got the contact info for a guy who actually imported one to Alberta
wow thats a whole lot of difference in the pricing... it costs like $60,000CDN to get a STi out from the showroom floor...... thats like $15,000CDN saving here
if i got the money i wouldn't mind doing those extra paper works and its really worth it too~
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It is legal to buy cars from the states and bring them to Canada, and modify them to meet Canadian requirements. It is Illegal to buy cars from anywhere else that do not meet Canadian specs from the factory and modify them and bring them to Canada. Unless they are more then 16 years old. Couple exceptions maybe if you bought and own a car in another country while living there for more then six months... I know I could have brought an English car from England to Canada when I lived in England while going to school there even though I was a Canadian resident. But there was a time limit. I almost brought a Rolls Royce back with me.

The State tax should be refundable, just like GST is for non Canadians who visit here. Mind you Provincial tax isn't refunded to us Albertans when we go to BC. Unless I've been missing something.

For the above $45,000 Total you missed the Transportation fee, the Export liscence fee, the Brokerage fee, add $5000.00. You might as well buy a 2005 STi at Subaru Calgary for $54,000 tax in.

Also remember the US 04 STi was the Base model not the Premium one sold in Canada.
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I don't think anyone buyin a USDM STi would oppose to flying down to the US and driving it back up, as long as thier paperwork is done in advance, therefore no transport fee. There is no Export liscence fee unless you are transporting goods accross the border "as a business". Privateers can transport goods for thier own use w/o an Export Liscence as long as they do not re-sell it w/in 30 or 90 days. I cannot remember which. And there is no Brokerage fee as long as you fill out the paperwork yourself. There is the obligatory $5 customs fee. How you added $5000 for these things is beyond me.
$45,005 is still a pretty damned good price.
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For the above $45,000 Total you missed the Transportation fee, the Export liscence fee, the Brokerage fee, add $5000.00. You might as well buy a 2005 STi at Subaru Calgary for $54,000 tax in.

Also remember the US 04 STi was the Base model not the Premium one sold in Canada.
Get a clue dude. Nice job pulling fees out of your ass. All fees of any significance, save rail transport if you choose and a flight, have been accounted for and the price is $42,000. I talked to a doctor who paid less than that for the car and applicable taxes and duty. He picked up the car in Boston and drove it to Montreal where he put it on a train to bring it to Calgary. And there is no standard or premium version. There plenty of threads on the differences between the US and Canadian versions - HID and heated seat are the major items.

edit - spelling it was early
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