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Old 02-01-2004, 06:23 PM   #1
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Default Your thoughts on the Baja T v-a-v the Forester XT

Okay,

Looking to possibly replace the spouse's 01 Forester S with a Baja T. Have driven the 5MT and Autostick. What is your preference and why? For those of you with the Autostick, how do you get it to start out in "2" like you could with the previous 4EAT. Also, for those who chose the Baja T over the Forester T, what was your rationale?

I've driven both and frankly, I'm more impressed with the acceleration of the Forester XT 5MT than with either of the Baja T models but that's as far as I can subjectively differentiate (powertrain to powertrain). That said though, the Baja T seemed to "cruise" at a lower RPM (both 5MT and Autostick) which leads me to believe that they are geared differently v-a-v the XT as well . They really are different vehicles (platforms) and are designed for different purposes and to appeal to different segments within the "utility" market.

We haul a lot of stuff when we camp and will probably start using our trailer to haul wood and other camping stuff so giving that up in the Baja is not that major a concession.

Your thoughts are appreciated.

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Old 02-01-2004, 06:59 PM   #2
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Well, I personally like the uniqueness of the Baja. The FXT is smaller and lighter, so would perform better. But I needed something with at least a small open bed. We looked at he rest of the compact pickup market, but couldn't find one as well equipped as the Baja. If nothing else, in the monolith of the SUV crowd, the Baja sure does stick out and say "betcha can't guess what I am!".

Yes, the FXT and Baja are geared slightly differently, although I don't recall the exact ratios. The FXT provides a nice tall view of the road, as well as a great deal of usable interior volume. But it's overall impression on me was sort of a "yup, it's the family car). The Baja just seems more fun, less ordinary.

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Old 02-01-2004, 09:25 PM   #3
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I too was sold on the versitility of the Baja but took a test drive in a turbo and non-turbo forester as part of our decision process. I felt the handling and ride in the Baja closer to a sport sedan and more to my liking. At this point (1000 miles) my only dislikes are gas mileage and how high the engine revs at highway speeds.
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Old 02-01-2004, 09:34 PM   #4
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Dale,

This is my story:

I have loved subaru's for quite sometime and I have owned 3 so far and have just put a deposit on a Baja T straight from the factory. My wife has a '98 Forester and we love it. So we will have both soon (I hope sooner than later). I When I first saw the Baja in '03 I fell in love. I saw the concept SXT and I thought it was cool looking, but I wouldn't like the final version. But I was very plesently supprised.

I have looked at the FXT, but I like the bigger interior room and more confertable ride that the legacy models (legacy, outback, and baja) give than the impreza models (Impreza, WRX, and Forester). The Every impreza model car I have driven is a more harsh like a sports car and the legacy modles drive more confortable like a luguary sedan/wagon. So In my opinion the FXT will have greater performance than the Baja T, but the Baja will have a better confort in the ride. I also wanted the open bed so when we go camping, biking, etc... we can just through all our stuf in the back and go where we want to. I also plan to get a flatbed trailer for towing stuff like firewood and bigger stuff. Unlike some people, I feel the bed is a great size for running around town and going to and from the hardware store. The nice thing about the forester is all the cargo area is enclosed, but the tall items become a issue simetimes, at least that is what we have found with ours. So a combination of both is going to be great.

That is my reasoning on why I chose the Baja as well as the uniqueness it has.

I also went out and drove each and every single smaller pickup w/4 doors and none of them could even compair to the baja in just about every aspect. The ride confort was amazing, the fuel econemy, price with options, etc... The baja beet them all out. So for me it was a no brainer, get the baja.

For the starting in "2" like the previous 4EAT, you can select the gears like before. The shifter has P, N, R, D (switch to Sportshift), 3, 2, 1. So if you want to select 2 you can like before, i believe.

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Old 02-01-2004, 10:30 PM   #5
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If nothing else, the Baja will probably become a rare item like the Buick Grand National, GMC Typhoon and Syclone, or the Subaru SVX. I'd get one now to stake your claim on what may wind up being a very rare and unique vehicle.

I say this because I don't think the Baja will see production for much longer. I hope it does, but I think the US is the wrong market, perhaps Australia would be a better bet. But who knows, Honda has an SUT in works, so maybe the genre will expand beyond Subaru's control. But it just doesn't seem to hold an appeal for a great deal of people, then again, most people didn't like pickups or SUVs ten years ago.
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Old 02-01-2004, 10:39 PM   #6
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Ford also has a concept that they are planning on making a production vechiel out of that is like the baja small SUT.
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Old 02-02-2004, 09:02 AM   #7
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Here's a few of my personal favorites:

Holden Crewman SS

Holden Ute

Holden One Tonner

Ford Falcon RTV Ute

This seems like it would be the Baja's ideal market, no? Better yet, I say bring these bad boys across the pond!
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Old 02-02-2004, 09:47 AM   #8
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I chose Baja T over FXT because I didn't like my $2000 bike up on the roof especially when I pass semi-truck (I used to wonder how much the fork dropouts can take when the bike swayed/shaken). Also, every time I came back from bike riding, I used to chant "bike on top, bike on top..." since one of my bike fought the house and lost before. You see, I had such a wonderful, enchanted ride that day, forgot to sing the song to myself. Can you imagine how horrible it was... I still can't overcome that feeling today (5 years later). Today, I have no such fear!! Snow handling is surprisingly well - nothing like regular pickups. It makes me forget it is a half truck - no fish tailing (no worse than any other subies). And Baja is cheaper than FXT.

Thing I wish I could is the grocery run with full house. The weather condition kind of dictates this activity, so this cannot be the only-car in hosue.

Also mentioned previous posters, it is somewhat rare car. SOA is now looking at extending the life of Baja as the sales is picking up (so you got to contribute, Subietonic!). But if you are looking at pickup type cars and utilities, then Mitsu is (supposedly) ready to start the production of its Sports Truck, so as Honda (someone mentioned this already). But they are all (sportier looking) trucks, though. Be reminded, it is a car.

I guess 4EAT with Sportshift maybe a cool thing, but considering next gen all come with 5EAT, I chose not to bother with it for now. Maybe my wife's next vehicle. (I went with MT so I'm the only one who can drive it in the house hold.)
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Old 02-02-2004, 03:45 PM   #9
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The way I saw it when I got my Baja Turbo:

WRX 2.0L was $2k more and useless as utility
FXT $1K more than BajaT
FXT and BajaT has same engine and tranny
BajaT has the open bed, FXT closed bed

But in the end, since the BajaT wasnt selling as well as the FXT, I got an even better discount on it. That's what sealed the deal.

And of course the 5MT!!! what use is a Turbo if you cant boost it!!!
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Old 02-08-2004, 04:25 AM   #10
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Default Re: Because It's Rare

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Originally posted by cadillacjake
If nothing else, the Baja will probably become a rare item like the Buick Grand National, GMC Typhoon and Syclone, or the Subaru SVX. I'd get one now to stake your claim on what may wind up being a very rare and unique vehicle.

I say this because I don't think the Baja will see production for much longer. I hope it does, but I think the US is the wrong market, perhaps Australia would be a better bet. But who knows, Honda has an SUT in works, so maybe the genre will expand beyond Subaru's control. But it just doesn't seem to hold an appeal for a great deal of people, then again, most people didn't like pickups or SUVs ten years ago.
No offense intended but I highly doubt the Baja is going to end up with the mystique and the near legendary status that the BGN, Syclone, Typhoon enjoy. I'd describe the Baja as more of a pink elephant.

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Old 02-14-2004, 10:48 AM   #11
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I agree, the Baja will never be as coveted as a Buick GN, but it will wind up becoming a cult collectors item. More like the Brat, SVX, or (maybe) the DeLorean . But to each his own. I've never been one to drive something because the rest of the world thought it was cool. So in reference to the Baja-T vs FXT; dare to be weird! Get a Baja!
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Old 02-14-2004, 10:50 AM   #12
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As much as I am intriqued by the Baja T and FXT, I would recommend a WRX Wagon 5MT as being a better buy for the following reasons:

1. VALUE - The base WRX is cheaper due to greater availability and higher production numbers, etc...

2. VERSATILITY - You can haul more things in an enclosed compartment compared to the Baja T. You can also buy a decent trailer and hitch for roughly $700 and haul quite a bit more. A 5' x 8' low boy will haul more than a full size pick-up with easier loading.

3. SUBWOOFER - With a wagon you can put a real subwoofer in the hatch (for the audiophile). No place for one in the Baja T.

4. PARTS - There are TONS of parts and mods available, new and used for the WRX Wagon.

5. HANDLING - Better handling and with all of the aftermarket parts available even more potential.

6. APPEARANCE - Much better looks IMHO.

7. SLEEPER FACTOR- The wagon is still a sleeper!
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