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Old 03-10-2004, 03:48 PM   #26
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Someone must've complained about a fixed up car doing something stupid, so they're probably trying to crack down cuz of that.
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Old 03-10-2004, 06:01 PM   #27
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Someone must've complained about a fixed up car doing something stupid, so they're probably trying to crack down cuz of that.

probably some retarded kids with fart-can exhaust doing something stupid around that area ...


anyway, if you have your fight mail written up, please do share .. I might need help with english grammar...
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Old 03-15-2004, 03:26 PM   #28
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okay... today I went to the smog referee and have my car tested for exhaust noise, well... you know what?

I passed

my car was 90dB@4500 and the limit is 95dB .. wow that's close.

this certificate will clear my citation .. yay~~!
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Old 03-15-2004, 03:39 PM   #29
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okay... today I went to the smog referee and have my car tested for exhaust noise, well... you know what?

I passed

my car was 90dB@4500 and the limit is 95dB .. wow that's close.

this certificate will clear my citation .. yay~~!
Give us more details as to the information they took of your car. Did they look under the hood for any other mods? What else do you have on your car?
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Old 03-15-2004, 03:57 PM   #30
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Give us more details as to the information they took of your car. Did they look under the hood for any other mods? What else do you have on your car?
when I came there, they check my engine bay and exhaust piping, make sure there's no leak.

so he parked my car in an open area, he put the decible-o-meter 45 degree away from my exhaust.

1000-2000 RPM : 85dB
2000-3000 RPM : 93dB
3000-4000 RPM : 92dB
4000-4500 RPM : 90dB
4500-5500 RPM : 88dB
5500-7000 RPM : 85dB

the max HP of my engine is at around 4500 RPM, so the measurement taken at 4500 RPM ... which is at 90dB


btw, I removed my resonator, I have Remus Twin Future, and I have stock airbox


this is how they do it


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Old 03-15-2004, 04:06 PM   #31
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The difference between 90dB and 95dB is almost a factor of two. Your exhaust is pretty far under the limit... Glad to hear its an easy process!

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Old 03-15-2004, 04:10 PM   #32
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The difference between 90dB and 95dB is almost a factor of two. Your exhaust is pretty far under the limit... Glad to hear its an easy process!

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but when it's around 2000-3000 RPM, the meter jumps to close 94dB .. I was freaked out ... LOL
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Old 03-15-2004, 04:14 PM   #33
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but when it's around 2000-3000 RPM, the meter jumps to close 94dB .. I was freaked out ... LOL
Yeah, it's louder at lower RPM's, but they have to measure it between 3k to 5k rpm's, no less, no more.
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Old 03-23-2004, 04:54 AM   #34
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ivbdn,

any update on your exhaust ticket?
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Old 03-23-2004, 11:25 AM   #35
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Being lazy and have yet to fill out the forms. I'm gonna take care of that before the end of the week.
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Old 03-23-2004, 05:28 PM   #36
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I have to go to court for this too. I am going to go back and read everything in this thread when I have time.

When the officer pulled me over he said it was correctable. I even got it signed off at the police station but when I went to go pay it at the courthouse, the lady said that it would cost money and does not know why the ticket said it was correctable.
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Old 03-23-2004, 06:43 PM   #37
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Old 04-05-2004, 05:16 PM   #38
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I have to go to court for this too. I am going to go back and read everything in this thread when I have time.

When the officer pulled me over he said it was correctable. I even got it signed off at the police station but when I went to go pay it at the courthouse, the lady said that it would cost money and does not know why the ticket said it was correctable.

that's weird

it's suppose to be correctable ticket....probably the clerk was high
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Old 04-05-2004, 06:21 PM   #39
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that's weird

it's suppose to be correctable ticket....probably the clerk was high
Incorrect my friend. It WAS correctable, but that changed. I don't know since when, but it was within the past two years.

Unfortunately, the California Judicial Council was able to get it changed to a non-correctable offense. They did it illegally, but I just don't have the info to prove that.

As for updates, I sent in my papers last Friday. If you'd like to see my declaration, PM me with your e-mail, or if people would like to see it posted, just let me know, and I'll post it on this thread.
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Old 04-05-2004, 10:11 PM   #40
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Incorrect my friend. It WAS correctable, but that changed. I don't know since when, but it was within the past two years.

Unfortunately, the California Judicial Council was able to get it changed to a non-correctable offense. They did it illegally, but I just don't have the info to prove that.

As for updates, I sent in my papers last Friday. If you'd like to see my declaration, PM me with your e-mail, or if people would like to see it posted, just let me know, and I'll post it on this thread.
http://civil.lasd.org/cwvivl01.html?2
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Old 04-06-2004, 12:38 AM   #41
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http://civil.lasd.org/cwvivl01.html?2
Good find. Maybe things changed and I just don't know about it, but as far as I know and from what I've read, the CJC made it a non-correctable offense regardless of what the CVC says.
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Old 04-06-2004, 04:18 AM   #42
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so why correct it when the ticket is non-correctable? you might just as well pay the fine and leave your car the way it was ticketed before .. it seems a little illogical to me
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Old 04-06-2004, 04:30 AM   #43
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Motorwerkz,

Yeah you can just pay the fine now. The judge might let you off if you correct it if you show up to court and prove that you corrected it.
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Old 04-06-2004, 12:36 PM   #44
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You're right. It is illogical as it contradicts the Vehicle Code. Part of the reasoning they did this is because of one reason.

What happens when you get a fix-it ticket? You fix it and pay it off. Then, you tint your windows or slap the exhaust back on again, over and over, and the cycle continues. So instead of that happening, they decided to make it a fine and non-correctable. They make more money, and repeat offenders just keep getting charged over and over again even though since it's a "non-correctable" offense.
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Old 04-06-2004, 01:30 PM   #45
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The fine is 116.50 which is money I don't have. I am going to court to see if I can get it dismissed seeing as the officer DID mark that it was a corretable violation.
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Old 04-06-2004, 02:41 PM   #46
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Mine was $111. I'm now awaiting the outcome.
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Old 04-06-2004, 02:54 PM   #47
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I am also going to go to the Ref beforehand and see if my Stromung is less than 95dB that way I don't have to have this problem again.
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Old 04-06-2004, 02:58 PM   #48
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1) The exhaust ticket is NOT CORRECTABLE according to California law, passed January 2001. Court clerks and cops make mistakes, or they just don't know that it has changed. You MAY get lucky and get a court clerk who will allow you to get it "corrected" and pay the small fee. Usually, when the police officer checks "correctable," the court will rectify the mistake and send you an amendment, listing the offense as "non-correctable." This is what happened to me and others.

2) DO NOT "pay the fine and leave your car the way it was ticketed before." FIGHT THE TICKET. That way you will pay nothing in the end AND you can leave your car the way it is. If you pay the fine this time (my fine was listed as $110, refunded when I fought and won) it will double the next time you are cited for the same offense, and continue to increase for subsequent violations.

ALWAYS foght your ticket by mail first.

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How do I fight it by mail? I don't know who to send anything to.
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The fine is 116.50 which is money I don't have. I am going to court to see if I can get it dismissed seeing as the officer DID mark that it was a corretable violation.
I'd recommend against this plan. The court will likely just change it to non-correctable, it's a very minor technicality that won't get your ticket dismissed. Then you will have wasted the time in court. I say just fight by mail. You will have to pay the bail to fight by mail, if that's a consideration.

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