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Old 03-10-2004, 08:16 PM   #26
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So what is all included for that 300 price of yours kingpin?
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Old 03-10-2004, 10:00 PM   #27
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$300 includes the clutchand the flywheel. Thanks.
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Old 05-23-2006, 01:01 PM   #28
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Does anyone have pics of both a WRX (2004-05) and the STi clutch package for comparison?
I'd like to retain my lightweight flywheel if I could...
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Old 07-17-2006, 12:19 AM   #29
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Kingpin,

How has the case stood up?

Cracking etc or doing ok?

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Old 07-17-2006, 11:09 AM   #30
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There have never been any issues with case stability or craking due to the material removed. The amount is minimal. Thanks.
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Old 07-17-2006, 09:32 PM   #31
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Thanks for the reply,

1 more stupid one, you could still use the satndard 5 speed starter motor?

someone mentioned something about the teeth not meshing.

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Old 07-18-2006, 10:39 AM   #32
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The starters are the same. Identical. Can use either. Thanks.

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Old 07-23-2006, 08:09 AM   #33
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Anyone have any pics of how much they ground of the case?

or could you photoshop this pic with how much and where?



Also, any issues with changing gears etc? Somone mentioned issues, because the fork is a different shape and the clutch sits further away from the flywheel?

Any comments at all will be much appreciated as i don't want to start and find out it's no good.


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Old 07-28-2006, 09:41 AM   #34
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anyone done this and remember where and how much material they took off?

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Old 07-28-2006, 10:01 AM   #35
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I did it personally. I would say about 1/2"-3/4". Thanks.

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Old 07-29-2006, 12:50 PM   #36
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Make sure you use a stock STi PP. Aftermarket upgraded STi PP will not clear......failed for me.
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Old 08-12-2006, 10:05 PM   #37
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Have nearly finished the install, put the operating cylinder on and with the pin fully extended, it just touches the clutch fork.
Any ideas what is wrong.

THe fork is engaged etc

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Old 08-13-2006, 01:26 AM   #38
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Not sure what you are trying to say????
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Old 08-13-2006, 05:54 AM   #39
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sorted.

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Old 11-03-2006, 08:07 PM   #40
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Have nearly finished the install, put the operating cylinder on and with the pin fully extended, it just touches the clutch fork.
Any ideas what is wrong.

THe fork is engaged etc

Thanks
What was the problem?
Interesting on this swap!!!
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Old 11-03-2006, 08:12 PM   #41
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I did it personally. I would say about 1/2"-3/4". Thanks.
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Can you use Pic. of the tranny, to show where and how dip to grind ?
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Old 11-04-2006, 09:50 PM   #42
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Make sure you use the 5MT clutch fork in the 5MT, even if you are using a 6MT clutch.
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Old 11-05-2006, 08:35 AM   #43
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Can you use Pic. of the tranny, to show where and how dip to grind ?
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Don't grind it all the way down. Just hack a good 1/2 of it off. The starter hole you need to be careful not to grind it down a lot as it's thin there but take a good chunk of the material off the top. And the bottom portion where the flywheel teeth hangs out at the bottom needs to be trimmed down a good 1/4 -1/2". You actually don't 'have' to do all the webbings but I figured better safe than sorry and not have to drop the tranny again. Shaving all of them isn't gonna hurt a thing.

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Old 11-05-2006, 10:34 AM   #44
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Many thank's Rex
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Old 11-05-2006, 11:04 AM   #45
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Old 11-27-2006, 10:27 PM   #46
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I'm putting a STI clutch, pressure plate, and flywheel into a WRX also. It has been a frustrating process. The problem has been touched on above but I'm still unsure how to correct it. I've tried with both a STI fork and a WRX fork and in both cases the top of the fork is too far forward and the cylinder is near full extension just to contact the fork. The WRX fork is better but unworkable. I am using the WRX to bearing in all cases, and its definitely snapped in. I see that the STI clutch assembly is thicker than the WRX or Exedy 2P clutch assemblies that I have (measuring from crankshaft to tob mounting ring) so this is definitely the cause. What is the cure? The cure can't be as simple as using the WRX 5MT fork because the tob is in a more rearward position than it would be in a normal WRX. It would make sense that a STI tob would be thinner but from the info I've found on NASIOC this doesn't seem to be the case. Help Please! Kingpin? Hotrex? -I think the answer is in Hotrex's comment "Sorted", but I don't know how to sort!

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...1#post16130955

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Old 11-27-2006, 10:31 PM   #47
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Tip: Grinding the ribs out of the case is easiest if you have the trans apart and you can gring half of the case at a time. This allows good visibility behind the clutch assembly to see where grinding is needed. You'll first need to measure the distance from the engine / trans mating plane to the crankshaft flange then put the clutch assembly to this position for your trial fittings. Once this position is established then leave the clutch assembly on the shaft and remove / replace the shaft when grinding / fitting. Of course this is only useful if you have other reasons to have the trans apart. With a full transmission I think that clay / caulk may be helpful in determining where grinding is necessary.
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Old 03-23-2007, 06:53 PM   #48
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I'm writing this four months later for the benefit of anyone putting a STI clutch setup in a WRX trans. I had the troubles described above (quoted below). I never did manage to get that clutch setup to work in the WRX trans despite multiple remove / change / replace cycles. I talked with Kingpin ( think it was him, its been months - or else someone else that does these every day) and he couldn't diagnose what was incorrect in my setup, but suggested that I *might* heve a Tribeca clutch instead of a STI clutch. In the end I used an aftermarket WRX clutch and PP along with a WRX flywheel and had no issues. A few months later the WRX trans died its final death (unrelated issues) and I installed a 6MT. I put the troublesome STI (Tribeca?) clutch, PP, FW, TOB in with the 6MT and it worked perfectly. So I think it was a STI clutch and I think It legitimately wouldn't work (unless I'd made a custom shift fork). Lesson for you: Somtimes it works for some people and sometimes it doesn't. Dunno why. Ya takes some chances if you're going this way.

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I'm putting a STI clutch, pressure plate, and flywheel into a WRX also. It has been a frustrating process. The problem has been touched on above but I'm still unsure how to correct it. I've tried with both a STI fork and a WRX fork and in both cases the top of the fork is too far forward and the cylinder is near full extension just to contact the fork. The WRX fork is better but unworkable. I am using the WRX to bearing in all cases, and its definitely snapped in. I see that the STI clutch assembly is thicker than the WRX or Exedy 2P clutch assemblies that I have (measuring from crankshaft to tob mounting ring) so this is definitely the cause. What is the cure? The cure can't be as simple as using the WRX 5MT fork because the tob is in a more rearward position than it would be in a normal WRX. It would make sense that a STI tob would be thinner but from the info I've found on NASIOC this doesn't seem to be the case. Help Please! Kingpin? Hotrex? -I think the answer is in Hotrex's comment "Sorted", but I don't know how to sort!

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...1#post16130955

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Old 01-09-2008, 09:06 PM   #49
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I talked with Kingpin ( think it was him, its been months - or else someone else that does these every day) and he couldn't diagnose what was incorrect in my setup, but suggested that I *might* heve a Tribeca clutch instead of a STI clutch
Tribeca is slushbox only....
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Old 06-02-2009, 01:03 AM   #50
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Anybody still have pics of were to grind that aren't dead? Iv'e got the general idea just want to be sure. Thanks
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