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Old 02-03-2004, 05:33 PM   #1
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Unhappy What to check after WRX is stolen?

I really need some help on this one!

My 2002 WRX (which I bought in October with 9,500 miles on it) was stolen in early January.

The car was recovered but was not totaled. The insurance adjuster came out and looked at the cosmetic damage (~$5,100) but nothing was done about any potential mechanical problems.

The insurance company wants to wait until mechanical problems present themselves.
The dealer only wants to road test the car.

Visions of someone red lining, launching, grinding, and driving the car _hard_ (it was recovered with a front flat and a dent in the other rim) make me think more should be done.

What should be checked/done? Compression check? Clutch inspection? Transmission inspection? Suspension/Steering inspection?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Old 02-03-2004, 11:01 PM   #2
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Your insurance should cover a complete diagnostic on the car. This is the same check they do on a used car or when you have a car inspected prior to purchase. It is a 100 point inspection that checks everything on the car and usually runs $50-$200 depending on the shop. The dealer may only want to road test it, but if it was me, I would insist on a diagnostic check up even if I had to pay for it myself. If no problems are discovered, you paid for cheap peace of mind. Also, be sure to check over the car 100% yourself. Illegal things could be hidden and you don't want to have someone else or a cop find them down the road.
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Old 02-04-2004, 03:14 AM   #3
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I'd get it all fixed up and sell it.....quick....or take it out and total it somehow(yeah...I know... )

Sorry, but I just couldn't keep a car that had been stolen unless there was proof positive that it hadn't been abused in any way
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Old 02-04-2004, 05:33 PM   #4
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When my Rex was stolen, I took it to a body shop that had most of the same type of diagnostic tools that the dealer has.

My repairs went like this.

1. Cosmetic damage - $6,500

2. After repairs began, body shop found more things (I forgot what they call this. Amendment or something) - $1,000

3. I picked up car from body shop and found a few more things - $500

4. Body shop done, another thing I found was damaged reverse gear - $2,000. Body shop missed this. Clutch felt fine, but ticked in reverse.

5. Everything finished, traded in car. Looked better than before it was stolen.

Items 1-3, were all taken care of between the body shop and insurance company. I paid the deductible to the body shop they billed the ins. co. for everything else. 90% of my damage was easy to spot. .

I had to get the dealer to confirm that 4. was due to theft (not a warranty item) before the ins. co. paid that.

Make sure that everything will still be covered under body shop warranty/insurance within a certain amount of time if you find problems. IMO, you and/or your dealer should be able to find most things in one test drive.

Good luck,
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Old 02-06-2004, 05:13 PM   #5
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Default Thanks for the help! More details please

I really appreciate the time you three took to reply to my posting!

Can anyone list the specific things the dealer should do? They just want to do a road test. The insurance company says its willing to pay for some "reasonable" tests.

I need to be specific with them both. I was thinking of presenting them with a list including some of the things from the 15K mile service list:

Inspect Steering and suspension

Inspect Clutch operation

Inspect brake lines and check operation of parking and service brake system

Inspect Disc brake pads and discs, front and rear axle boots and axle shaft joint portions

What else should be on the list?

Compression test? Inspect gearbox (I don't even know what that would mean)?

Suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
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Old 02-11-2004, 03:18 PM   #6
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IMHO telling someone to get rid of their car ASAP to a dealer or whomever is really crap! I understand your motivation, but you might pass your problem on to some unsuspecting consumer. Oh, the dealer has lots of money! I might have been tempted to resort to this if it weren't for something called a 'conscience'. I admit that dealers can be scum at times, but what if they didn't diagnose a problem and sold a potentially dangerous vehicle to one of your family? Would you also be angry with the original owner for passing on his problem? I realize many of the forum people are young, but do they have to be stupid too? I am an older guy and can be very stupid at times too. But when giving advice to someone please be aware that you have a moral responsibility to other people and being selfish is childish.
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Old 02-11-2004, 04:56 PM   #7
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IMHO telling someone to get rid of their car ASAP to a dealer or whomever is really crap! I understand your motivation, but you might pass your problem on to some unsuspecting consumer. Oh, the dealer has lots of money! I might have been tempted to resort to this if it weren't for something called a 'conscience'. I admit that dealers can be scum at times, but what if they didn't diagnose a problem and sold a potentially dangerous vehicle to one of your family? Would you also be angry with the original owner for passing on his problem? I realize many of the forum people are young, but do they have to be stupid too? I am an older guy and can be very stupid at times too. But when giving advice to someone please be aware that you have a moral responsibility to other people and being selfish is childish.
This is ridiculous to the point of idiocity, IMHO.
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Old 02-12-2004, 09:46 AM   #8
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IMHO telling someone to get rid of their car ASAP to a dealer or whomever is really crap! I understand your motivation, but you might pass your problem on to some unsuspecting consumer.
For $20, anyone can just get a CarFax report and find out the entire history of the car. A lot of dealers throw this in for used cars anyway. Maybe "older" guys don't know about CarFax.

My car was in better condition after the repairs. It was mainly an emotional decision for me. Like you, I live near a hotbed of WRX thefts so keeping it didn't make sense.

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p.s. - Hope you have more than just the factory alarm.

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Old 02-14-2004, 10:02 AM   #9
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For $20, anyone can just get a CarFax report and find out the entire history of the car. A lot of dealers throw this in for used cars anyway. Maybe "older" guys don't know about CarFax.

My car was in better condition after the repairs. It was mainly an emotional decision for me. Like you, I live near a hotbed of WRX thefts so keeping it didn't make sense.

-Dennis
p.s. - Hope you have more than just the factory alarm.
Car fax won't pick it up unless it was a total stolen or it's recoverable and the engine and a lot of other things were stolen.

By the way carfax can be slow. We own a Mazda 323 well it got wrecked and the insurance salvaged it. The insurance lost papers so now it's a clean title and Carfax doesn't even know. But then again when the cars life is over which which is about 10k miles it's going to the junk yard and We'll get about $50
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Old 02-15-2004, 02:38 PM   #10
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For $20, anyone can just get a CarFax report and find out the entire history of the car.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
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Old 02-15-2004, 04:59 PM   #11
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i would sell it. sorry, but its like a rental car now. Just think of like this. Your car got raped. how do you feel? Is the pain worth it? I would sell it. Someone broke into my GrandAm and i loved that car. WEll, at my old house, we had silent alarms in all our cars that would trigger a low level alarm inside the house alerting us to theft or someone vandalizing the cars ... so we woke-up went out side and my dear ol dad put a 12 gauge to that guy's forehead. It was classic and the police still remember it becase that guy tried to sue us for pulling a gun on him ... can you believe that crap!!!!
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Old 02-15-2004, 05:00 PM   #12
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but if you can live with the fact that someone violated your car, more power to you sir, i salute you, i couldnt do it, i would have to sell it.
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Old 02-17-2004, 11:07 AM   #13
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You have no idea what you're talking about.
Apparently not.

So you guys are saying that if a vehicle is stolen, it won't necessarily show up on CarFax?

Oh well, Caveat Emptor.

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Old 02-17-2004, 11:31 AM   #14
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Very little shows up on Carfax. Massive accidents won't even show up unless the title is salvaged. The only theft reports I've seen on Carfax are from cars that were totalled (salvaged).

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Old 02-17-2004, 07:26 PM   #15
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good info, i never knew that.
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Old 02-20-2004, 06:53 PM   #16
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I would get that car on a frame rack as soon as possible and check out any under body damage. Also, anything from this point forward no matter what happens to it, you make a claim to your insurance.

Squeak here- insurance
Squeak there- insurance
Grinding transmission- insurance
Slipping clutch- insurance

Make it very clear to them that you will be making a claim every time something shows up in the future. They will have to at least have an adjuster look at it each time, even if they deny it. Make it cost them money. That is the only thing insurance companies respond to... Bottom line.


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Old 02-21-2004, 01:48 AM   #17
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I'd check the classifieds for space on ad to sell your car.... someone made your "baby" their bitch and it'll never be the same.
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Old 02-26-2004, 02:44 AM   #18
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I agree with almost all of them. Think of this as a second chance for the sti wagon.
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Old 02-26-2004, 07:43 PM   #19
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Thanks for all the advice!

I think it'll come down to finances- whether or not I can make up the stolencar-discounted trade-in.

Note: I wouldn't feel right selling the car to someone without telling them it was stolen & I can't imagine someone buying it that knew it was stolen.

Anyone want to guess what the dealer would give me on a trade-in? (I bought the car in October with 9500mi for $20K.)
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Old 02-26-2004, 08:30 PM   #20
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first off lets get one thing straight.... CARFAX is the WORST when i was buyin my car i made it a point to have a carfax report ran with it and it came out completely clear. he then backed it up saying they had it checked out by a subaru tech and it was fine. well turns out they never had it checked and the car was in a huge accident. i found this out when random parts started to break and i took it to subaru for service and they denied me saying they were mostly aftermarket because of the accident. so NEVER trust carfax or acura dealers. the only things that are put on the report are things that are reported to your insurance agency. so if work is done to it without their knowldge then carfax doesnt know either!!!!
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Old 02-29-2004, 09:43 PM   #21
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the only things that are put on the report are things that are reported to your insurance agency.
Wrong. It's a good bet that CarFax doesn't know about it, even if your insurance does. DMV records are primarily what you get from Carfax.

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so if work is done to it without their knowldge then carfax doesnt know either!!!!
Almost definitely.
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Old 03-02-2004, 02:19 PM   #22
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....yall are harsh about selling the car after something happens to it....my cars been broken into twice (not stolen)....i aint got the cash to get a new car. they keep taking my subwoofer...even though the second time (last week) i had everything screwed down...they just pulled until the screws stripped....now i'm getting the best alarm they make, the third time is not going to be the charm....catch my drift
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Old 03-02-2004, 04:32 PM   #23
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....yall are harsh about selling the car after something happens to it....my cars been broken into twice (not stolen)....i aint got the cash to get a new car. they keep taking my subwoofer...even though the second time (last week) i had everything screwed down...they just pulled until the screws stripped....now i'm getting the best alarm they make, the third time is not going to be the charm....catch my drift
Your logic is flawed....
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my logic is flawed?
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send a tranny oil sample off for analysis. then you'll have info on how munged up your synchro's are.
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