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Old 02-04-2004, 05:31 PM   #1
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Default clutch shudder...free clutch, who can help?

hey guys, my car has been experiencing the clutch shudder for a while now.

i havent had time to get it fixed.

do any of you guys know a good dealership that can fix it (subaru of america is supposed to give you a free clutch for it)

my car has some mods on it so hopefully this hopefully wont be a problem since they are recent and the problem was before and I dont think I've ever launched my car or anything so they can't tell me its from abuse.

anyone know what dealerships in either dallas or houston area woudl be helpful in a quick turnaround since i NEED my car.
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Old 02-04-2004, 06:10 PM   #2
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I was denied because they could not re-produce the problem. But at least it is on file. I have the extended warranty and I am now at 65k miles. I would like to get it replaced one day, but it just gets my blood pressure up dealing with dealerships. I may have to go back to where I bought the car. Who knows. Good luck
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Old 02-04-2004, 06:23 PM   #3
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I had mine swapped out at West Houston. No hassle at all. They didn't need to reproduce the shudder...they could see the hot spots on the flywheel.

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Old 02-04-2004, 08:22 PM   #4
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I have taken my car to both dealers in Austin, they will not replace it. They state they can not reproduce the problem. I have such a problem with it, my car is not even fun to drive anymore!! I am sick of dealing with the dealers! They know there is a problem and they refuse to fix it. I need to try another city! Austin subaru sucks!
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Old 02-04-2004, 09:28 PM   #5
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I had mine swapped out at West Houston. No hassle at all. They didn't need to reproduce the shudder...they could see the hot spots on the flywheel.
They wouldn't do mine unless I left the car overnight to check cold. Since it only happens about 30% of the time on 1st application of the clutch I reckoned they would probably not see it.
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Old 02-04-2004, 09:55 PM   #6
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west houston it is.
their service department is supposedly good and I know the manager of the dealership Adam is a great guy. I helped him sell 3 cars in one night. he owes me a gift
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Old 02-04-2004, 10:10 PM   #7
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i took mine to huffines and they couldnt reproduce the condition either. the guy drove around the service station once.

never took a look at the flywheel either.
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Old 02-05-2004, 12:11 AM   #8
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i experience it everyonce in awhile.

But in all honesty, I dont really care. It isnt THAT annoying, and it really makes no difference. And since it happens very rarely....
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Old 02-05-2004, 12:26 AM   #9
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If I let my car warm up it doesn't do it. But if I drive off right after I start It, then it will shutter bad until it warms up.

Never even tried to bring it in.
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Old 02-05-2004, 02:24 AM   #10
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Honestly, clutch shudder isn't worth worrying about.
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Old 02-05-2004, 08:10 AM   #11
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I got mine fixed, but according to the TSB if you reach a certian milage somewhere areound 30k (not quite sure what the exsact milage is) SOA wont fix it. They claim the amount of wear is equal to the fix and there is no more shudder if you reach that certain milage.
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Old 02-05-2004, 08:20 AM   #12
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They wouldn't do mine unless I left the car overnight to check cold. Since it only happens about 30% of the time on 1st application of the clutch I reckoned they would probably not see it.
ditto on that... Huffines and Subaru of Dallas both said they needed to confirm the problem. So with the track record lately of the dealers rejecting this claim...I figured F-it...I'll live with it.
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Old 02-05-2004, 09:13 AM   #13
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Honestly its worth taking in to have checked out. If they can duplicate the problem, they WILL replace it. They are not trying to screw you around, just following directives given to them. The worse thing that could happen is to get an 'unable to duplicate at this time' response. In which case you either keep bringing it back, or give up.
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Old 02-05-2004, 09:33 AM   #14
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I got mine fixed, but according to the TSB if you reach a certian milage somewhere areound 30k (not quite sure what the exsact milage is) SOA wont fix it. They claim the amount of wear is equal to the fix and there is no more shudder if you reach that certain milage.
I'm here to tell you that is crap. I have over 65k miles now, and I still get it once in a while. It is a pain to "drive around" the problem. At times, it seems as though the drivetrain is going to fall out, noise wise, that is.
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Old 02-05-2004, 09:40 AM   #15
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Honestly, clutch shudder isn't worth worrying about.
I've been driving standard transmission-equiped cars for over 30 years, and this Impreza is the first I've EVER driven that had clutch shudder. I don't know about anyone else, but I paid good money for my Subie, and I expect it to function properly from day one. SOA dropped the ball on the clutch issue. They should have put out a recall notice and replaced every pre-2003 clutch with one that works as it was designed to work. If Subaru truely wants to improve their image as a quality carmaker in the US market, they should take care of issues like this in a fair and timely manner. As it is, you can go to just about any car-oriented forum and read about the Impreza's transmission problems. Not the best advertisement for a company who claims to want to improve their image.

That being said, I really enjoy driving my wagon. The Impreza has its quirks, as every car does, but overall it's a most pleasant driving experience. Other than the shuddering clutch, piss poor paint, and flimsy body panels...I love it.
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Old 02-05-2004, 01:31 PM   #16
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i have 30,700 miles on my car


they said it was around 32 that they wont fix it. time to rush home!!!!!
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Old 02-05-2004, 02:07 PM   #17
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I've been driving standard transmission-equiped cars for over 30 years, and this Impreza is the first I've EVER driven that had clutch shudder. I don't know about anyone else, but I paid good money for my Subie, and I expect it to function properly from day one. SOA dropped the ball on the clutch issue. They should have put out a recall notice and replaced every pre-2003 clutch with one that works as it was designed to work. If Subaru truely wants to improve their image as a quality carmaker in the US market, they should take care of issues like this in a fair and timely manner. As it is, you can go to just about any car-oriented forum and read about the Impreza's transmission problems. Not the best advertisement for a company who claims to want to improve their image.

That being said, I really enjoy driving my wagon. The Impreza has its quirks, as every car does, but overall it's a most pleasant driving experience. Other than the shuddering clutch, piss poor paint, and flimsy body panels...I love it.

If you read some of the posts of those who got the fix, apparently they've drastically changed the feeling (and I think engagement point too) of the clutch -- Something about lightening the clutch and flywheel. I was originally going to take it in to get the problem taken care of, but once I heard about people's reports, I decided that I'd live with it.

This is just my take on things, but that this is normal behavior for an AWD designed the way out 5MT Subarus are made. If a clutch has small surface abberations (from repeated driving), especially when its cold and hasn't loosened up yet (and especially when you're just trying to gently slip the clutch), it's going to make itself known. However, with awd, and subaru's full time implementation, I'm sure these abberations are magnified throughout the entire transmission and hence the whole car shaking -- whereas on 2wd cars, it's moreso isolated to just the drive wheels.

The temp solution to this has been mentioned many times -- do a nice mid-high rpm clutch slip and wear down that baby to a nice even surface
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Old 02-05-2004, 02:11 PM   #18
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If I'm not mistaken, they replaced my clutch assembly and flywheel with parts for the 2003 model. I have the receipt somewhere that gives all the part numbers...but, I believe they were 2003 parts.
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