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Old 02-05-2004, 11:49 AM   #1
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This is from http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/st...2103959&EDATE=.

Subaru Introduces Third-Generation Outback(R) Models; Ultimate Crossover Vehicle Features Advancements in Safety, Handling, Fuel Economy, and Performance

CHICAGO, Feb. 5 /PRNewswire/ -- Subaru of America Inc., the only company
that features Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive as standard equipment on every
vehicle in its product line, has introduced the fully redesigned, re-
engineered third-generation Outback model line. New 250-horsepower 6-cylinder
Outback 3.0 R models and the 250-horsepower intercooled / turbocharged Outback
2.5 XT models bring a dramatic performance infusion to the Outback line.
"By offering new high-performance, premium-content Outback models, Subaru
is positioned to compete with the growing number and diversity of crossover
vehicles," said Fred Adcock, Executive Vice President, Subaru of America, Inc.
"And, quite simply, the Outback 2.5 XT is designed to be the ultimate
performance crossover wagon."
Arriving at Subaru dealerships in spring 2004, the thoroughly revised 2005
Outback models are designed and equipped to compete with the growing range of
crossover vehicles in the market, including luxury-brand models. The 2005
Outback model line includes the Outback 2.5i and Outback 2.5i Limited models,
powered by a 168-horsepower 2.5-liter 4-cylinder boxer engine that provides
enhanced response for 2005. The 6-cylinder models include the Outback 3.0 R
L.L.Bean Edition and flagship Outback 3.0 R VDC Limited. The Outback 2.5 XT
and 2.5 XT Limited models are exclusively powered by a 250-horsepower
intercooled / turbocharged 4-cylinder boxer engine.
With the development of this next generation Outback, Subaru strengthened
and enhanced its "Best of Both" concept that spawned the original Outback. The
melding of passenger car and SUV attributes has been further advanced to meet
the demands of consumers shopping the crossover segment. Safety, handling,
fuel economy and performance are improved by means of a longer wheelbase,
wider track, lower center of gravity, and vehicle weight reduction by as much
as 180 pounds. The vehicle ground clearance and command seating position have
also been improved for 2005 Outback models.
Wheelbase of the slightly larger 2005 Outback has been increased from
104.3 inches to 105.1 inches and overall length has been increased by just
under two inches. The pronounced wedge body shape conveys a strong and stable
presence, accentuated by aerodynamic side ground effects, more pronounced
wheel arches and redesigned protective side cladding.
The 2005 Outback is built on a new version of the company's proven Ring-
Shaped Reinforcement Frame safety structure. All 2005 Outback models will
include as standard equipment front seat side impact air bags and side curtain
air bags that offer additional head protection for front and rear occupants.
New intelligent dual-stage deployment front air bags use sensors to detect the
presence and weight of a front passenger and also the driver's distance from
the steering wheel. The system determines front air bag deployment strength
for optimal occupant protection. Active front head restraints can help reduce
potential whiplash injury in a rear collision.
To mark the introduction of the 2005 Subaru Outback, Subaru will reveal
product details to consumers on a new website, http://www.need-desire.com that
showcases the brand's premium performance evolution.

High Performance In Two Versions
The 6-cylinder Outback 3.0 R models provide a linear power feeling that is
characteristic of a higher-displacement engine. The intercooled / turbocharged
2.5-liter DOHC 4-cylinder boxer engine that powers the Outback 2.5 XT models
offers a more sporty and exciting type of engine performance. In addition, the
turbocharged engine also offers outstanding performance at high altitudes,
where changes in atmospheric pressure adversely affect the power output of
naturally aspirated engines. Even with the increased engine power and
performance, Subaru anticipates improved fuel economy across the line, subject
to final certification.
A new 5-speed electronic direct control automatic transmission is standard
on the Outback 3.0 R models. The Outback 2.5 XT offers a choice between a
reinforced 5-speed manual transmission and the new 5-speed automatic. With the
automatic, the SPORTSHIFT feature allows manual shifting control from the
console-mounted shifter and, exclusive to Outback 2.5 XT models, steering
wheel shift buttons, as well.

Chassis Designed for Performance, Ruggedness and Comfort
The 2005 Outback models retain the rugged, go-anywhere capability that
Subaru customers want while delivering the crisp handling response and smooth,
quiet ride comfort expected in a premium model.
A new, stiffer body structure makes greater use of aluminum and high-
strength steel. The 4-wheel independent suspension features revised geometry
to enhance handling and stability. The wider vehicle track, a lower center of
gravity and the use of 17-inch wheels and tires on most models further enhance
stability on the new Outback.
The rack-and-pinion steering system has been redesigned for quicker
response, greater precision and improved feel. A 4-wheel disc Anti-lock Brake
System (ABS) with Electronic Brake-force Distribution (EBD) is standard
equipment on all 2005 Outback models.

Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive A Key To Brand Identity
Subaru offers three different Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive systems in the
2005 Outback models, each tailored to the type of transmission. With the 5-
speed manual transmission, the system distributes the power 50/50 front to
rear. Slippage at either set of wheels will send more power to the other set
of wheels.
Outback 3.0 R models -- and Outback 2.5 XT models when equipped with the
5-speed automatic transmission -- use a system called Variable Torque
Distribution (VTD). VTD normally sends more power to the rear wheels to
enhance handling agility, and it continuously adjusts the power distribution
in response to driving and road conditions. Exclusive to the flagship Outback
3.0 R VDC Limited model is Vehicle Dynamics Control (VDC), an advanced
stability system that controls VTD operation and integrates an electronic
four-wheel traction control system.
Outback 2.5i and Outback 2.5i Limited models will offer an optional 4-
speed automatic transmission, with an AWD system that actively controls power
distribution in response to driving conditions.

All-New Interior Reflects Premium Positioning
Flush surface treatments, a soft foam upper dashboard, soft foam door trim
and aluminum side sill covers give the new Outback interior a premium
appearance and ambience. The two-tone interior features cloth upholstery for
the Outback 2.5i and Outback 2.5 XT models, and leather-trimmed upholstery for
Outback 2.5i Limited, 2.5 XT Limited and 3.0 R models.
Standard equipment is more extensive than in any previous Outback and
includes an 8-way power driver's seat for all Outback 2.5i models, Outback 2.5
XT Limited and Outback 3.0 R models. Outback 2.5 XT Limited and Outback 3.0 R
models also include a standard 4-way power passenger seat, and the front seats
on all Outback models for 2005 feature standard four-stage heating. A dual-
panel glass power moonroof is standard for Outback 2.5i Limited, 2.5 XT
Limited and Outback 3.0 R models.

About Subaru of America, Inc.
Subaru of America, Inc. is a wholly owned subsidiary of Fuji Heavy
Industries Ltd. of Japan. Headquartered near Philadelphia, the company markets
and distributes All-Wheel Drive Subaru vehicles, parts and accessories through
a network of nearly 600 dealers across the United States. Subaru is the only
car company that provides Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive as standard equipment on
every vehicle in its product line. Subaru has been the best-selling import
wagon in America for the past 20 years, based on R.L. Polk & Company new
vehicle retail registration statistics calendar year-end 2002.

Contact: Mike Whelan: 856-488-3326
Larkin Hill: 310-763-0929



SOURCE Subaru of America, Inc.
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Old 02-05-2004, 12:36 PM   #2
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Also, www.need-desire.com has been updated with Outback information.
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Old 02-05-2004, 12:36 PM   #3
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www.need-desire.com has the Outback info now

No pricing info on neither the Outback nor the Legacy yet

Edit: Damn Jon, you're fast!
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Old 02-05-2004, 12:38 PM   #4
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Cool. This really is the beginning of new Subaru. Sad to say, but turbo is the solution for outdoor enthusasts - at 10,000 elevation, no matter how big the engine is, it loses more power than turbo, which in effect creates its own environment. Kudos, Subaru! About time...
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Old 02-05-2004, 12:42 PM   #5
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Does anybody think it's weird that in the legacy gallery there are photos that are "coming soon". What have they yet to announce? Hmm....

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Old 02-05-2004, 12:51 PM   #6
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Interesting things from the need-desire site;

It says that tow rating has gone up, but it doesn't say what it is.

It also shows and makes reference the twin pipes sticking out of the bumper; contrary to the pictures from Chicago.

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Old 02-05-2004, 12:52 PM   #7
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Does anybody think it's weird that in the legacy gallery there are photos that are "coming soon". What have they yet to announce? Hmm....

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Interior DVD navigation system?

Wow, they were able to up the H6's hp to 250. Isn't this more than even the oversea ones?
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Old 02-05-2004, 01:14 PM   #8
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But the torque is 219.
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Old 02-05-2004, 01:34 PM   #9
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bummer on the H6 torque; it peaks a lot higher too

It seems like the H6 is for people who want something smoother and more linear; ie more the luxury cruiser crowd. Otherwise why bother? I don't see any other advantage over the 2.5t.

Any word on an H6 Legacy model?
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Old 02-05-2004, 01:52 PM   #10
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Any word on whether that's been upgraded? In other markets it has, so I'm hoping that's the case with US-spec models too.

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But the torque is 219.
The 2.5XT's max torque of 250 lb-ft is, of course, only at wide open throttle and only after the turbo has completely spooled up. That probably won't happen in any gear other that the highest one. The EZ30R's max rated torque can be experienced in ANY gear.

I wonder which has more torque at 1000, 1500, 2000 or even 2500 RPM? I wonder which engine while cruising will accelerate quicker when you suddenly mash the pedal to the floor? Which engine will accelerate quicker from an idle?

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Any word on whether that's been upgraded? In other markets it has, so I'm hoping that's the case with US-spec models too.

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www.need-desire.com says only that it's been increased.
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I only see the 2.5 turbo in the outback wagon. It looks like the sedan only gets the N/A motors.
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bummer on the H6 torque; it peaks a lot higher too

Old H6 - 212 hp @ 6000 rpm / 210 lb.ft. @ 4400 rpm

New H6 - 250 hp @ 6600 rpm / 219 lb.ft. @ 4200 rpm

I see more torque at lower rpm
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I only see the 2.5 turbo in the outback wagon. It looks like the sedan only gets the N/A motors.
The Outback Sedan hasn't been announced yet. But, yes, on www.need-desire.com the Outback Sedan is only described as a 3.0 and is grouped with the VDC and LL Bean as far as features go.
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In AutoWeek!

http://autoweek.com/specials/2004_chicago/

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Thanks. I took a picture of the rear of this very car yesterday and it only had "Outback" on the rear.


Now look at the badges on it:


I think they're trying to drive you insane, rs.

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Anybody has a front end pic of 2.5XT OB? I want to see how the hood scope looks like
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Old H6 - 212 hp @ 6000 rpm / 210 lb.ft. @ 4400 rpm

New H6 - 250 hp @ 6600 rpm / 219 lb.ft. @ 4200 rpm

I see more torque at lower rpm
2.5XT 250 hp @ 6000 rpm/ 250 lb.ft. @ 3600 rpm.
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Anybody has a front end pic of 2.5XT OB? I want to see how the hood scope looks like
It's extremely discreet:
http://www.autoweek.com/specials/200...s/DSCN2266.jpg
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It's extremely discreet:
http://www.autoweek.com/specials/200...s/DSCN2266.jpg
Thanks. Didn't notice there is a '>>Next' button
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any word on a nav system?
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Old H6 - 212 hp @ 6000 rpm / 210 lb.ft. @ 4400 rpm

New H6 - 250 hp @ 6600 rpm / 219 lb.ft. @ 4200 rpm

I see more torque at lower rpm
I was comparing the new H6 to the 2.5t.
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The 2.5XT's max torque of 250 lb-ft is, of course, only at wide open throttle and only after the turbo has completely spooled up. That probably won't happen in any gear other that the highest one. The EZ30R's max rated torque can be experienced in ANY gear.
You must not drive fast up steep mountain roads much. I'm sure full boost is accomplished on a lot more than just top gear when driven hard, and I'm also willing to bet that the 2.5T's 90%max torque occurs over a wider rpm range than that of the EZ30R's.
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Nothing written about navigation that I see, but I can't see any reason that Subaru would stop using OnStar that they have already started using and skip over to DVD navigation.

As for the 219ft-lbs, looks like that is just like what the Australian engine produces. Online conversion programs are so helpful. Although the torque is less, I have it on good authority that the H6 was found to be a bit quicker (or at least feel it) compared to the JDM GT at least in more normal everyday driving. Yes, the turbo will make more with the turbo fully spooled, but what about off boost or non full boost conditions? Don't count out the 6 cylinder. It will probably feel like you don't have to work it as hard to get the same acceleration. The turbo will be good for the high altitude people and those who really want the sport feel. Notice that the XT gets different seats which I assume will be more bolstered like in the GT.
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