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Old 02-06-2004, 01:02 PM   #1
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Default Door lock fell in door? How did this happen?

Just went to get groceries, and noticed that the door lock was pushed in, and the trim around the handle is loose. Here are some pics:







What the heck could cause this to happen? I don't see any damage anywhere, like someone tried to pry it open, and I don't live in anywhere near a crime area. I have the stock alarm, too, which I think would have gone off. Could this be an attempted-breakin, or did the door handle just come loose?

The door pull still works fine, FYI.
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Old 02-06-2004, 01:06 PM   #2
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i'd have to say someone was trying to break in
i had the door handles in and out of my wrx...

and they just dont 'fall out'
there are bits behind the lock assy that hold it into place

hope i'm wrong.
but doesnt look good does it?

take your door panel off,
and have a look see inside...

you will see how to fit the lock assy back into place
and should be able to tell if someone was trying to break in
(scuff marks? damage?)

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Old 02-06-2004, 01:09 PM   #3
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Well, if the concensus is attempted breakin I'll probably report it to the police before I go digging around in there. But, thanks for the info.
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Old 02-06-2004, 01:43 PM   #4
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Looks like an attempted break-in. No strange footprints in the snow?
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Old 02-06-2004, 01:46 PM   #5
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No, we got a few inches of fresh stuff overnight. They'd have been covered by the time I saw it.
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Old 02-06-2004, 02:15 PM   #6
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Just called the police, they're going to come check it out. I mainly wanted to see if they've heard of anything else like this lately...
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Old 02-06-2004, 02:51 PM   #7
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I have to concur that it looks exactly like someone tried to punch out your door lock and failed.
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Old 02-06-2004, 02:54 PM   #8
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Spoke with a police officer, who's going to ask around the apartment complex I live in to see if anyone saw anything. Nice of him to do, but obviously the chances of anyone having seen anything are slim to nil.

So what's the best way to get at this to fix it? Do I need to take the whole door panel off?
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Old 02-06-2004, 03:02 PM   #9
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does you insurance offer free repair from break-in damage?
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Old 02-06-2004, 03:04 PM   #10
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does you insurance offer free repair from break-in damage?
No clue! I doubt it, but it's worth checking.
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Old 02-06-2004, 03:05 PM   #11
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That exact thing happened to my RX-7 about a decade ago. Lost a bit of bling I had stupidly stored in the glove box.
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Old 02-06-2004, 03:17 PM   #12
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No clue! I doubt it, but it's worth checking.
Yep, some insurance providers offer deductable free (comprehensive coverage) for damages related to a break in, glass, handles, locks, etc.
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Old 02-06-2004, 03:46 PM   #13
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yup someone was trying to break but it looks like they failed pretty miserablely you are lucky they didnt get in or you may not have a car now
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Old 02-06-2004, 03:50 PM   #14
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Well, that's what insurance is for. But, unfortunately TFW, it doesn't look like any sort of all-inclusive coverage for vanalism is included in my policy.
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Old 02-06-2004, 04:04 PM   #15
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Well, I did have the lock on my trunklid come loose like that once. I know for a fact that no one was trying to break in as the clip that holds it in place popped off as I was closing the trunk.

For that, I had to remove the interior emergency release handle to get at the cylinder and pop the clilp back on.

If the side lock cylinder is anything like the trunk, it's really easy to pop back on, as long as you can get your fingers in there.
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Old 02-06-2004, 04:19 PM   #16
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Well, I did have the lock on my trunklid come loose like that once. I know for a fact that no one was trying to break in as the clip that holds it in place popped off as I was closing the trunk.

For that, I had to remove the interior emergency release handle to get at the cylinder and pop the clilp back on.

If the side lock cylinder is anything like the trunk, it's really easy to pop back on, as long as you can get your fingers in there.
This is what I was thinking as well. Thieves are usually not that tidy. Also, you can plainly see that the lock has no scuff marks on it as you would expect if someone tried to "punch it" though. I'll bet the retainer came loose and the lock fell in when you last closed it.

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Old 03-07-2005, 08:37 PM   #17
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**RESURRECTION**

This just happened to me. It's funny though, I parked my car in broad daylight in a bad part of town and went in to eat. I noticed this guy sitting in his car, he didn't come into the restaurant and he left before anyone came out to get in his car. Then when I went out to my car and there was two other cars with people in them parked with the engines running right next to my car. I only noticed the lock pushed in today though. I need to be more observant so I could have gotten license plates and descriptions of the individuals.

The funny part is I ate fast and hurried out to my car bacause I had a feeling like they were going to steal my car. I even played out in my mind what I would do if someone stole my car and how much it would suck to have to call someone to come pick me up. By the way this took place at Captain D's on troost right next to 63rd in KC, MO. No more parking in that part of town for me again.
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Old 03-07-2005, 08:41 PM   #18
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Bummer, dude. If you get it fixed let me know what it cost ya, or how tough it is to do on your own. I still haven't had mine fixed yet... thank you Subaru for keyless entry

I figure if I ever learn how to take the door panel off it shouldn't be too tough to fix, but I've had too many other things to do.
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Same here, I'll try to attack this next weekend.
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Well I attempted it today and failed. I'll do a write up with pictures tomorrow. I got everything off today but I didn't have a socket with me to do the actual lock bolt reattachment plus the cold and dark started to sneak up on me.
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Sorry to hear that. Pictures would definitely be appreciated for when I decide to tackle the task. I'll re-host the picture of my busted lock so people know what I'm talking about.
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So I got around to cracking open my door today. I should mention that before you start you'll need a philips head screw driver, a flat head screw driver, an 11/32 socket(screw driver or ratchet with extender) and a cool head. Click all thumbnail pictures for larger versions. This was done on an 02 RS there may be diffrences in other Subarus. Read through everything at least once before starting.

The two red arrows point to the first two screws that you need to remove. You should be able to pop off the screw covers with your finger nail.

The screws are diffrent so one won't fit in the others hole. This helps when you are doing these steps in reverse to reattach the door panel.

After removing the screws you can slide the door handle and automatic window console, away from the door hinge. This will reveal the third screw you have to remove(the red arrow). Before you un attach the automatic window buttons make sure the window is completely down into the door, this comes in handy later. After that you can press on the sides of the attachment(little blue arrows) and the center(big blue arrow). With a little wiggling and some pressure this should release.

The screw removed in this picture is diffrent from the two screws in the earlier picture so you won't be able to mix then up.

Facing the door panel I start from the top left and work my way down the side of where the door panel meets the door popping them away from each other with the flat head screw driver. After you get most of it the plastic piece around the door handle on the inside of the car may come shooting out at you as the panel breaks free, don't worry, that's normal. **Pay special attention to how the panel lifts up and slides back to come away from the door. It's very tricky to reattach it without damage from the pink supports indicated by the big blue arrow.** With the panel completly removed peal back the plastic covering on the top left to expose access to the back of the door handle. The red arrow pointing to the area you did all this work to get too. The two smaller blue arrows indicate removing that styrofoam piece you have to remove to get the lock back into place for reattachment.

You may also need to peal back some of the plastic at the bottom of the door to find your missing screw. Mine fell down and slid foward in the door almost to the front of the inside.

This picture is a close up on the bolt missing in action. You have to manuver the lock back into the hole and match up the hole on top of the lock with the screw hole then insert the bolt and screw it back in through another small hole. Once you see what your dealing with it might be intimidating but give it some time and you'll be able to get everything lined up.

It's really important to have the window down for this, otherwise glass would be blocking the hole.

Here you can see up into where you put your hand to position the lock. The red arrow indicates where the other bolt attaches the other side of the door handle on the outside. You will have to put the window up to get to this but it may help to take this off and pop off the handle completely to look down into the door and find your missing lock bolt.

Of course do all these steps in reverse to reassemble the door.

And try to keep from forgetting to reinstall some pieces

I don't think that was important any ways, at least I hope it wasn't.

Good luck. If you have any questions feel free to ask.
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Thanks for the pics. Maybe I have another weekend project now
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**RESURRECTION**

This just happened to me. It's funny though, I parked my car in broad daylight in a bad part of town and went in to eat. I noticed this guy sitting in his car, he didn't come into the restaurant and he left before anyone came out to get in his car. Then when I went out to my car and there was two other cars with people in them parked with the engines running right next to my car. I only noticed the lock pushed in today though. I need to be more observant so I could have gotten license plates and descriptions of the individuals.

The funny part is I ate fast and hurried out to my car bacause I had a feeling like they were going to steal my car. I even played out in my mind what I would do if someone stole my car and how much it would suck to have to call someone to come pick me up. By the way this took place at Captain D's on troost right next to 63rd in KC, MO. No more parking in that part of town for me again.
Just so you know if you don't ANYWHERE AROUND TROOST is a no no!
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And try to keep from forgetting to reinstall some pieces

I don't think that was important any ways, at least I hope it wasn't.


OMG.......

Very nice, thoroughly detailed instructions, but that last comment.........
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