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Old 02-08-2004, 04:17 PM   #1
BritSti
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Default Remote start - Lock wire which goes negative

I have the remote starter working on my Sti, well without the neutral sense or clutch bypass, those are coming, issue right now is my activation input.

The red/white wire of the keyless entry module is not giving me a negative on keyless entry lock, I have tested both red/white wires and also tried some on the integrated module.

Basaically the remote starter needs to see a double pules of negative when the keyless entrly lock button is hit twice, when I ground it out two times manually the thing starts right up....

Any suggetions on this, oh yes this is the Omega Rally remote start setup for 02-04+ subarus, instructions have been ok, but they specify a "Lock" wire on the blue pin of the integrated module which isn't there....

Thanks.

S
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Old 02-08-2004, 05:52 PM   #2
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Default Re: Remote start - Lock wire which goes negative

The keyless entry output to the integrated module sends 12 volts positive. Pin1 Orange/White for Lock Pin2 Orange/Black for Unlock. Pin A6/B280 Orange is the 12 volt output for the Door Lock Actuator for Lock/Arm. You may be able to invert 1 of these wires to Ground by using a 12 volt relay.

If you don't have a voltage inverter handy, you could use the Keyless Buzzer Pin 16 Red/Yellow on the Keyless Entry Module it pulses ground.

Horn Relay Pin13 Red/Green sends ground when the Arm/Lock button is pressed 3 times within 5 seconds.

The blue wire on the Integrated Module is the Room Light output. It sends ground during Unlock/Disarm which turns on the interior light.

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I have the remote starter working on my Sti, well without the neutral sense or clutch bypass, those are coming, issue right now is my activation input.

The red/white wire of the keyless entry module is not giving me a negative on keyless entry lock, I have tested both red/white wires and also tried some on the integrated module.

Basaically the remote starter needs to see a double pules of negative when the keyless entrly lock button is hit twice, when I ground it out two times manually the thing starts right up....

Any suggetions on this, oh yes this is the Omega Rally remote start setup for 02-04+ subarus, instructions have been ok, but they specify a "Lock" wire on the blue pin of the integrated module which isn't there....

Thanks.

S

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Old 02-08-2004, 09:17 PM   #3
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Thanks for the help once again Netz. This has been a little harder than I though for a fairly plug and play kit.

My activation input is looking for the locking system lock wire, which could be on the keyless entry module or the integrated module.

The manual specifies yellow/red at pin 11 on the integtrated module blue connector... its not there, there is a yellow/red at pin 11 on the grey connector, does not work.

The orange white wire on the keyless module starts out at 11+v and does almost dip to 0v when the lock is acutated, so this may work.

I have checked virtually every wire on the keyless and integrated modules and none show negative when "lock" is activated...

My activation wire (looking for a double ground pulse) works fine to initiate the remote starter if I physically ground it out twice.

Would the blue wire on the integrated module send ground twice if the lock button is hit twice...?

Thanks for any advice on this.

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Old 02-08-2004, 10:30 PM   #4
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the yellow/red a11 is found on the 02/03 wrx. it's the actual door lock switch output. for the 04 the yellow/red b11 is found at b281 gray. this is the door lock switch output which is tied to the integrated module and the keyless entry module.

if you were to tap this wire to your trigger input, pressing the door lock twice should activate it as well.

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Thanks for the help once again Netz. This has been a little harder than I though for a fairly plug and play kit.

My activation input is looking for the locking system lock wire, which could be on the keyless entry module or the integrated module.

The manual specifies yellow/red at pin 11 on the integtrated module blue connector... its not there, there is a yellow/red at pin 11 on the grey connector, does not work.

The orange white wire on the keyless module starts out at 11+v and does almost dip to 0v when the lock is acutated, so this may work.

I have checked virtually every wire on the keyless and integrated modules and none show negative when "lock" is activated...

My activation wire (looking for a double ground pulse) works fine to initiate the remote starter if I physically ground it out twice.

Would the blue wire on the integrated module send ground twice if the lock button is hit twice...?

Thanks for any advice on this.

S
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Old 02-10-2004, 04:41 PM   #5
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Well, the included manual fell short in this area.. I highly recommend getting a copy of the 04 Service manual - complete wiring/pin specs, what pin sends voltage and when etc.

Based on this and Netzs suggestions, I found than pin 6 on the Blue connector of the integrated module only sends positive voltage when the keyless entry is activated.

Using a relay I converted this positive pulse into ground out.. so hitting the lock button twice results in a double ground which is needed to trigger activation of the Omega Rallystarter.
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Old 02-10-2004, 05:11 PM   #6
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good deal... i may have to do a write up on integrating a DEI brand standalone remote starter with the factory keyless entry system. it has all the necessary wiring to bypass clutch etc!

thanks for posting the manual. i was expecting it to be more plug and play. let us know how it goes?

netZ

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Well, the included manual fell short in this area.. I highly recommend getting a copy of the 04 Service manual - complete wiring/pin specs, what pin sends voltage and when etc.

Based on this and Netzs suggestions, I found than pin 6 on the Blue connector of the integrated module only sends positive voltage when the keyless entry is activated.

Using a relay I converted this positive pulse into ground out.. so hitting the lock button twice results in a double ground which is needed to trigger activation of the Omega Rallystarter.
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