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Old 02-09-2004, 10:06 PM   #1
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Question Cusco front lower arm bar version 1 vs version 2

Hello all...
I was wondering which cusco lower arm bar is better to run, version 1 or version 2. From a pic that I see on http://www.gruppe-s.com on this page: http://www.gruppe-s.com/Subaru/subsus.htm it appears that they are both installed on the underbelly of that WRX.

1. So could you install both?
2. Will the factory plastic splash guard piece still fit?
3. What will the main advantages be? More oversteer? more understeer?

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Old 02-09-2004, 10:46 PM   #2
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I have the v.2

To answer your questions:

1.No, on the wrx you can't have both.
2.yes
3.For the v.2, Structure is much more stiff. Car "feels" much better. Initial turn-in is slightly better. Suspension works better because of it. I believe the v.1 has the same initial turn-in improvement as the v.2 but since it's only a 2-point versus the v.2's 4-point, the stucture is not stiffened. The v.1 does not affect understeer or oversteer, but the v.2 adds significant understeer which could be easily neutralized if you have a rear swaybar set to a stiffer position.

Of note, the v.2 is a nice solid piece. It will be the lowest point of the car (it sticks out maybe by an inch from the next lowest point on car). It weighs probably less than 3 pounds. Installing it is easy as long as you have the means to break the 2 bolts attached to the control arm which are torqued to about 160 lb-ft.
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Old 02-25-2004, 07:12 PM   #3
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Would a front sway bar offer the same results/feel?
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Old 03-14-2004, 10:03 PM   #4
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Old 03-14-2004, 10:37 PM   #5
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Would a front sway bar offer the same results/feel?
The short answer is NO....

I have the v2 and it makes the front of the car 'point' better. It helps get rid of some of that 'disconnected' feeling between the front end of the car and the steering wheel.
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Old 03-14-2004, 11:16 PM   #6
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yea i hope i can figure out how to put it back on, when I take off that front u-shaped bar....
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Old 03-15-2004, 02:14 AM   #7
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yea i hope i can figure out how to put it back on, when I take off that front u-shaped bar....
Ya just need some spacers for the front bolts...
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Old 03-15-2004, 11:22 AM   #8
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Ya just need some spacers for the front bolts...

home depot special?
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Old 03-15-2004, 11:47 AM   #9
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Is this also an Effective mod. for the STi?

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Old 03-15-2004, 11:48 AM   #10
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I used the spacers from my ALK...works great.

If you have no ALK spacers, then you will need about 1 1/4" worth of a spacer/side.
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Old 03-15-2004, 03:39 PM   #11
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yea i bought the motorsports ALK, so it didn't come with spacers.... I wonder if I can buy spacers from whiteline....?? hehe
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Old 03-15-2004, 03:40 PM   #12
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I'm sure that if you email Whiteline, you will get a rapid, competent response.

Have you installed the ALK yet?

If not, you may want to prepare yourself for a shock when you do and the 'sport' or 'comfort' one may be on your short 'to get' list....
Ask me how I know
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Old 03-15-2004, 04:10 PM   #13
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hehe i haven't installed it yet

I'm putting the motorsports alk in with the STi aluminum control arms, Eibach ERS 10.8K (600lb) springs for my JIC's, STi lateral links and trailing arms, and whiteline rear diff bushings...
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Old 03-15-2004, 05:27 PM   #14
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hehe i haven't installed it yet

I'm putting the motorsports alk in with the STi aluminum control arms, Eibach ERS 10.8K (600lb) springs for my JIC's, STi lateral links and trailing arms, and whiteline rear diff bushings...
So this isn't a street car, then. OK.

Yeah...on the track, you should be fine...
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its more or less my race car, but I'll take it out for a spirited drive every once and a while... hehe
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