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Old 02-10-2004, 08:05 PM   #1
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Default NEW Class in SCCA Coming (Solo 2) Hot off the presses

For all people like Street tires.... STU is going to be the SCCA class for Sti's,Evo's etc. 99.9% approval and probably ready to run in Atlanta. MORE DETAILS SOON...Kiko Siebt

Sounds like AWD class is coming... A little birdie told me a Nationally preped STi (Astock...and the ESP National Champion) went at it head to head in Private session....The STi Stomped the National champs Camaro...pretty handily....So changes are in the works...Wahoooo

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Old 02-10-2004, 08:18 PM   #2
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you saying there is a 99.9% chance this will be a class available this weekend?
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Old 02-10-2004, 08:19 PM   #3
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Old 02-10-2004, 08:28 PM   #4
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Old 02-10-2004, 08:31 PM   #5
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Old 02-10-2004, 08:42 PM   #6
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nice. this should help some newcommers as well as open up some more ways to run eight thousand classes in the same car i guess evo, sti, wrx and most of the SM cars on street tires would be ellegible for STU.

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Old 02-10-2004, 09:05 PM   #7
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AFAIK, new classes don't get introduced from one day to the next. The detailed rules have to be defined, they're submitted for member comment, then have to be approved at various levels, and then it also takes some advance notification of people who actually want to run the class. I see no way that we would see STU before 2005, even if things go smoothly.
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Old 02-10-2004, 09:12 PM   #8
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AFAIK, new classes don't get introduced from one day to the next. The detailed rules have to be defined, they're submitted for member comment, then have to be approved at various levels, and then it also takes some advance notification of people who actually want to run the class. I see no way that we would see STU before 2005, even if things go smoothly.
Its going to be run as a experimental class this year...to see if its "worthy" of national recognition...just like they did way back just like STS or SM....

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Old 02-10-2004, 09:54 PM   #9
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Great news!!

All they are doing is probably adopting the STX ruleset with maybe one or two more allowances.

GREAT JOB!

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Old 02-10-2004, 09:54 PM   #10
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i guess evo, sti, wrx and most of the SM cars on street tires would be ellegible for STU.
Is that true or is this like STX but for EVOs and STIs? I guess the question is: would a WRX that modded itself out of STX, into SM, now be able to run STU if it used street tires? I guess the rules will tell us...
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Old 02-10-2004, 10:12 PM   #11
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I find it kind of funny that STU is back (for those that don't remember that was the original name for Street Modified).

As for the Camaro vs STi thing: I read all about it on the Evolution list and I wasn't in the slightest surprised by the result. I find it hard to believe that the STi and EVO will be in ESP for very long now...hehe

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We've been running "STU" in Houston Region for a few years, it's a "run what ya brung" class. Lot's of heavily modified WRXs, STIs, turbo Miatas and hybrid civics (which wails on all of the above).
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Old 02-10-2004, 10:38 PM   #13
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We've been running "STU" in Houston Region for a few years, it's a "run what ya brung" class. Lot's of heavily modified WRXs, STIs, turbo Miatas and hybrid civics (which wails on all of the above).
Which is what the national Street Modified class used to be called.

STU in the new sense will still be on street tires based heavily on STX/STS rules.

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Old 02-10-2004, 10:58 PM   #14
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Which is what the national Street Modified class used to be called.

STU in the new sense will still be on street tires based heavily on STX/STS rules.

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STU in houston region came about before SM (I think, created in 1999), it's part of a bunch of street tire class which basically equates to street prepared car eligibility and rules (roughly) and then STU was created as a catch all for those prepared beyond the "normal" ST classes.
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Sounds like AWD class is coming... A little birdie told me a Nationally preped STi (Astock...and the ESP National Champion) went at it head to head in Private session....The STi Stomped the National champs Camaro...pretty handily....So changes are in the works...Wahoooo

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Old 02-10-2004, 11:49 PM   #16
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STU in houston region came about before SM (I think, created in 1999), it's part of a bunch of street tire class which basically equates to street prepared car eligibility and rules (roughly) and then STU was created as a catch all for those prepared beyond the "normal" ST classes.
STU as it was called was started nationally in 1998, and renamed to SM in 1999. It was never a street tire class however. ST stood for street touring, not street tire.

A car with lots of SM modifications isn't going to be legal for STU. For instance my WRX has a 2.5L engine, I don't think I could slap on some street tires and go race in STU. It's just going to be STX for cars not eligible for STX. So... EVO vs. STI.
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STU in Houston is alot different then what this new STU is. In houston you can basically run any street car with an interior and street tires. I believe it actually allows more mods then SM here.
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With the WRX breaking and my fear of breaking something in KCs car if I were to codrive it, I think I will try to convince Midnight_gold to let me run the STi in this class at the Atlanta Pro

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my z06 obliterated the STU field when I was an ass and ran in it

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With the WRX breaking and my fear of breaking something in KCs car if I were to codrive it, I think I will try to convince Midnight_gold to let me run the STi in this class at the Atlanta Pro

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Old 02-11-2004, 07:58 AM   #21
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IMHO, we need an STX-like class for two seaters. I'm sure I'm in the minority, but in my MR2 there aren't many classes I fit into, and none in which I can be competitive on street tires!
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And your point is?
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...and hybrid civics (which wails on all of the above).
only 'cause i left town.

I won the 2002 HouSCCA STU title with various stages of tune, but mostly in and STX eligible car. Don't get confused that this is a recognized class, cuz it isn't outside of HouSCCA.

I don't really understand why we need to make an additional "class", what we need is an entire Street Touring Category. This would include the current STS, STX, and the top ST class would be SM, even with it's R Compound allowance. It would be MUCH easier to fill in the additional classes where necessary that way.
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And your point is?
he's an arse that ran an illegal car.
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Just a little clarification on the new STU class and a small report on the ESP test at the Evo school this past weekend.

The new STU class is a go. It will be offered starting this weekend at the Atlanta Pro Solo. It is an experimental class. The correct name for the class in Street Touring Ultra. Personally, I believe this a perfect progression of the "Street" classes for STis, Evos, Supras, and possibly Vettes, Camaros, Mustangs, RX-8s, and RX-7s to play...I haven't seen the final ruleset on eligible cars, but am expecting all of these to be included. I wholly expect this new class to surpass even Street Mod at all of our events. I hope this clarifies everyone's curiosities of the new class.

As far as the test that was conducted in Orlando this past weekend....The STi is fast and is only going to get faster. If it can get 2-2.5sec faster than ESP, which is right about where BSP falls, that remains to be seen. I certainly hope it can be that fast, because even I'm saying the STi is too fast for ESP. Either that or the F-Body's are just too slow...you make that determination. The STi tested was maybe half-prepped to the extent of the ESP ruleset, but was as fast as a fully prepped-ESP Camaro. The STi turned out to be 0.1 second off the pace comparing the fastest times of all the drivers in each car. I can honestly say this was a fair contest, with no sandbagging taking place. What I felt good about was that my underprepped STX car was only 0.9 off the pace of the STi and the ESP Camaro....hmm, there may still be hope for the regular WRXs in ESP...might have to check that one out sometime...

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