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Old 02-11-2004, 08:43 AM   #1
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Default Will buying Cobb Access Tuner make Delta Dash obsolete?

I haven't been able to find any info about the logging features, if any, of Cobb's Access Tuner. I would like to buy a Delta Dash (or some type of logging device), but it would be silly to spend $330 on Delta Dash if Access Tuner will have similar logging features.
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Old 02-11-2004, 12:39 PM   #2
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The AccessTuner will have logging features -- it would be rather difficult to tune without them. As for making the DeltaDash obsolete, that'd be hard to say -- the Delta Dash is a very nice and robust piece of software.

We will be releasing more detailed information about the AccessTuner at the beginning of March. The package isn't scheduled to be made available until late April/early May so we didn't want to get too ahead of ourselves.

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Old 02-12-2004, 12:48 AM   #3
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you're killing me. I've been waiting for Cobb engine management for over a year. Now the AccessTuner has moved from March to April or May? Typically, that means even longer. It would be nice to know the capabilities of the AccessTuner to know if it's going to be worth the wait.

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Old 02-12-2004, 11:47 AM   #4
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San,

The ETAs are pretty realistic, I've pushed them back for this purpose to give us time. You're right, some things you simply cannot put firm ETAs on when some machine isn't pumping them out.

We'll begin announcing the capabilities of the AccessTUNER in March. If it's worth it for you, then great.

Keep in mind that we have the AccessPORT, AccessTUNER, STI and XT reflash, and more coming out over the next few months so we're pretty busy. We're doing our best to get everyone satisfied as quickly as we can!

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Old 02-12-2004, 01:37 PM   #5
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I have the same thoughts as I like the features of Delta Dash etc. However, I like the idea of having multiple maps, some logging capability etc all in one product which actually does something for you.

The PSI SECS unit is great for info, but it would be nice if it could manage something, maps, reflashes etc do some logging etc.

So the Cobb setup looks like it should be worth the wait, and will stop me from buying:

PSI SECS Unit
ECUTek reflash
Delta Dash

So maybe I'll save some money : )
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Old 02-12-2004, 04:21 PM   #6
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:drool:

I'm trying to resist calling to find out where I am on the list for accessport.

I don't even have anything to do with it...just look at it since my car is flashed already!
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Old 02-13-2004, 07:15 AM   #7
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I really cant wait for this to come out!!!!
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Old 03-03-2004, 02:27 PM   #8
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We'll begin announcing the capabilities of the AccessTUNER in March. If it's worth it for you, then great.

Cheers,
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It's March I'm really looking to buy a data logger within the next few months. Below is a list of most of the data the Delta Dash can log. What will Access Tuner be able to do compared to this? If Access Tuner can do just as much or about just as much you can count me in.

Analog Data
Coolant Temperature
Air Fuel Correction
Air Fuel Learning
Manifold Absolute Pressure
Engine Speed
Vehicle Speed
Ignition Timing
Intake Air Temperature
Mass Air Flow
Throttle Opening Angle
Rear O2 Sensor
Battery Voltage
Air Flow Sensor Voltage
Throttle Sensor Voltage
Fuel Injector Pulse Width
Knock Correction
Atmospheric Pressure
Manifold Relative Pressure
Fuel Level
Primary Wasetgate Duty Cycle
CPC Valve Duty
Tumble Valve Position Sensor Left
Tumble Valve Position Sensor Right
Idle Speed Control Valve Duty
Fuel Pump Duty
Air/Fuel Sensor Current
Air/Fuel Sensor Resistance
Air/Fuel Sensor Voltage
Rear O2 Heater Voltage
Air/Fuel Sensor Heater Current
Exhaust Gas Temperature

Digital Data
AT Vehicle ID
Test Mode Connector
Neutral Position Switch
Idle Switch
Ignition Switch
Power Steering Switch
Air Conditioning Switch
Starter Switch
Rear O2 Rich Signal
Knock Signal
Crank Position Sensor
Cam Position Sensor
Defogger Switch
Blower Switch
Interior Light Switch
Air-Con Compressor Signal
Radiator Fan Relay 1
Radiator Fan Relay 2
TGV Output
TGV Drive
Torque Control Signal 1
Torque Control Signal 2
Torque Permission Signal
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Old 03-03-2004, 03:12 PM   #9
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Those are all standard Subaru Select Monitor parameters. Yes, the AccessPORT Street and Pro Tuner displays/datalogs all of those.

More information on the "Tuners" is at:
www.accessecu.com

There is also a section in our forum where I'm happy to respond to any question(s) you all may have.

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Old 03-03-2004, 03:43 PM   #10
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Wait ... is the access port going to be available for other makes of vehicles as the Mitsus, Nissans before the RS 2.5?
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Old 03-03-2004, 05:27 PM   #11
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Those are all standard Subaru Select Monitor parameters. Yes, the AccessPORT Street and Pro Tuner displays/datalogs all of those.

More information on the "Tuners" is at:
www.accessecu.com

There is also a section in our forum where I'm happy to respond to any question(s) you all may have.

Cheers,
Trey @ COBB Tuning

Does Access Tuner have the ability to set the anti-theft map as the base map? I read your .pdf instructions for Access Port, and anti-theft was always referred to as a realtime map. If anti-theft is only available as a realtime map, then for someone to steal my car all they have to know how to do is reset the ECU (or disconnect the battery and wait 10 minutes). Of course this has some benifits, for instance, if I accidently lose my Access Tuner I can reset the ECU and have a map that's drivable until a solution is reached. However, I would rather have the choice to use or not to use the anti-theft map as a base map be left to the consumer, if that's possible given your technology.

That brings up another question, what happens if I lose my Access Tuner? Could I send my ECU to you to be reflashed or would I need a new ECU?

Also, when I get done datalogging, can I work with the data files in Excel? I'm an Excel whore and prefer to work with and graph my data in Excel.

Now all I can do is sit back and wait. Get the Access Tuner out for the STi and you'll have me buying an Access Tuner and a downpipe from you soon after

So, when will Access Tuner be available for the STi? No exact date needed, but would you say end of spring, mid-summer, next fall, etc...
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Old 03-03-2004, 05:34 PM   #12
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RS4Life - We have several engineers working on different projects. The engineer heading up the 2.5RS ECU is working on another project (AccessTUNER software) full time. Once he's done with that (~May), he'll get back to work on the 2.5RS project. The other ECUs are being handled by other engineers so it'll depend on how quickly the development goes as to the order in which they are released.

Most of the other models are being developed due to serious interest from other companies. We didn't list the 2.5RS ECU as being under development because no company other than ourself has ever expressed any interest it in.

Don't worry, it'll happen. Until then, we'll continue to endure the from RS owners....

Corn-Picker - Yes, Anti-Theft is available as a base map. Visit www.cobbtuning.com/wrx/accessport for a list of the available maps.

If you lose your Access Tuner, you're in trouble. We'd have to get your ECU back to verify it was Access Tuner enabled and then provide you with the missing equipment to match that ECU.

Saving the datalogging to disk gives you an option for Comma Delimited file format so you can easily import into Excel. (Great minds think alike I guess? )

We hope to make the Street and Pro Tuner for the STI available shortly after the STI AccessPORT is released. We are targeting a May release date for the STI AccessPORT. The Tuner software is being developed to be very easily adaptable to any ECU format so porting it over to the STI won't be too hard. Maybe a month or two after?

Cheers,
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Old 03-12-2004, 11:20 AM   #13
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Another question


Will the Access Tuner have a road dyno option like the DD?
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Old 03-12-2004, 01:35 PM   #14
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With the AccessPort are there going to be different maps available for different turboback exhausts?
For example my car has a TurboXS stainless turbo back along with a Blitz SUS Intake.
Will there be maps for these types of mods?

Another question will I be able to keep my Blitz SUS or will I have to go back to original Air box with K&N?

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