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Old 02-11-2004, 05:00 PM   #1
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Default tough decision for summer set-up: Dunlop SP Sport 9000,Falken ST115 & FK-451,Toyo T1S

Not trying to beat a dead horse here, but there seems to be wildly varying opinons about the UHP and MP summer tire options available out there.

Some reviews/shoot-outs put the Dunlop 9000 on top for dry/wet grip and low-noise, others boast about the Falkens or the Toyos. I've even seen the GS-D3's getting rave reviews on a few sites.

I'm looking for 225-45-17's for my Sti. The top of my list of priorities are: 1. Dry Grip 2. Wet Grip 3. Low Road Noise. 4. Hydroplaning Resistance. 5. Tread Wear.

Anyone have real-world experience with any of these set-ups?

Links to other legit reviews or tests would be cool too.

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Old 02-11-2004, 11:12 PM   #2
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Old 02-11-2004, 11:18 PM   #3
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you may also wanna check out the kuhmo mx's, i've heard good stuff about those.

I personally am runing the FK-451's. Excellent grip dry and wet. Progressive breakaway. No clue about treadwear, just put 'em on not too long ago. Very quiet when sticking and when sliding.
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Old 02-12-2004, 12:59 AM   #4
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the fk-451's are pretty damn cost effective, too. I'm shocked at how cheap you can find the Falkens now. The Toyos are coming down in price too, apparently due to a recent price reduction from the manufacturer.

let me know how you like them after you log a few more miles.

thanks for the info
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Old 02-12-2004, 01:35 AM   #5
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The Kumho MX's are not the best in the wet, and at less than 1/2 tread they get a bit scary. I have them and I'm looking at the FK-451's as better wet replacements for them. Hydroplaning is NOT an optionfor me(again ).
The MX's rock in dry conditions.
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Old 02-12-2004, 02:48 PM   #6
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thanks, Uncle- that's good to know.

Anyone running the 9000's?
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Old 02-12-2004, 04:08 PM   #7
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link to test on T1S, FK451, and SP9000 - among others:

http://www.falken-europe.de/common/i...fs/sa_test.pdf

GTGuy runs SP9000's - search his posts. I know he loves 'em and that test mentioned above gives some good reasons why...

the GS-D3 also got rave reviews in this test.
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Old 02-12-2004, 04:08 PM   #8
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im running sp9000's on my cooper-s. imo, these are pretty noisy tires, but the dry/wet grip is pretty good. not as good as S03's,
but for the price, i think it does pretty well. Im not too big
on the splash type tread design though...

ST115's are great if you're a car stereo fanatic. very quiet
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Old 02-12-2004, 08:49 PM   #9
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Toyo t1's...i have done track days with them, awesome in the rain, perfect in the dry...a set usually lasts me 20k miles and i love corners Will be buying my 3rd set sometime this summer and have not found a reason to switch brands at all...
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The Falken ST-115's meet all 5 of your criteria.
I've had them now for about 400 miles.
Size 225/45/17.
AMAZING! Best tire for the money. No doubt.

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yeah, the shootout link that rip posted really boasted about the T1's sharp turn-in response & excellent wet and dry handling. About the only thing the Toyos didn't rate top-notch in was hydroplaning resistance. Then again, I don't plan on blasting down the road in the rain at 80+ MPH anytime too soon...
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You might want to weight your preferences, not just order them.

If dry grip is really the ultimate priority, the BFG KD and Falken Azenis RS are the top choices (with the Azenis providing incredible bang for the buck). The Azenis are also very good in the light rain and wet roads, however, they have a bit more trouble in standing water due to the massive tread blocks.

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Old 02-13-2004, 01:13 AM   #13
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well, on your average freeway at 80mph in this seattle rain i have never felt hydroplaning until i had to drive through an area where the water went across it(nice engineering/paving!), just so happens that i do it everyday now and at 70mph the hydroplaning effect isn't there at all, just 10mph more and it is...
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I run the Azenis down here in FL (around 60" rain per year). Awesome dry grip. I don't think that they are too bad in the rain, but you need to pay attention if you hit standing water at high speeds. They also get noisier with wear.

I have heard good things about the BFG T/A KD and the KDW (but they're not as inexpensive.
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I can't believe the Falkens are less than 100 bucks on several sites

Found the Toyos for 140 though.....
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I can't believe the Falkens are less than 100 bucks on several sites

Found the Toyos for 140 though.....
Falken 451s and ST115s for about $80 on sale!

Toyos having a blow-out sale too.

Check out edgeracing
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Old 02-15-2004, 08:04 PM   #17
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damn $134 for my 215/40/17" toyo t1-s's...tempting just to buy and save them until i need them...i got my last set from edgeracing too, good service...
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