Mmm... linux... (OT)

Longshot · 05-08-2001, 06:19 PM

Mmm.. I am now running a fresh copy of Linux on my home box... sQrew Microsoft and their XP registration crap..

Korey

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^jynx^ · 05-08-2001, 06:55 PM

i LOVE linux but cant get my DSL to run on it........

Longshot · 05-08-2001, 07:41 PM

Well.. after much discussion with my coworkers I went with Mandrake, and that detected my entire system, so far its been extremely easy to use.

Korey

subarurabbit · 05-08-2001, 09:18 PM

You guys have it easy with these new distributions. I remember days of slakware and v1.2 kernels with experimental PCI bridging. And the jump to 2.0!!

Roger

dirk.gecko · 05-09-2001, 04:29 AM

Hey, Slackware is still around.

I reserve it for those days when I want a good kick in the teeth.

kpratte · 05-09-2001, 04:34 AM

Oh nooo, the "I remember when..." stuff! Linux is very nice, but Solaris looks better on a resume, so if I ran unix at home, that's what it would be, but instead I run Win2k and it works fine for me.

I still get a giggle over the whole registration thing. Yes for Joe user it sucks, but in the corp environment it isn't really much of an issue because the corp guys end up with a "Select" version anyways which doesn't require registration. But Microsquish still doesn't have a clue because now they are looking at changing their license agreements for the big customers to make it a non-perpetual agreement meaning every 3 years or so you have to keep sending them money. The big companies are going to go nuts if it goes into effect.

The more they push this kind of stuff, the more people will think about going to Linux, Solaris or other free OS's..

- Ken

JGard · 05-09-2001, 06:41 AM

yeah, i have Linux on one of my hard drive's at home. It detected everything just fine, including DSL. The only problem is...I don't know it close to as well as Windows, and MS Office, therefore, I am far less productive on it. I'm working on it, though...

Hey Aaron (m750), if you read this, I still want my free copy of Solaris!!!

m750 · 02-12-2004, 04:31 PM

JJ still want a copy of solaris?

03WRXMA · 02-12-2004, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by m750
JJ still want a copy of solaris?

back from the dead!

cdvma · 02-12-2004, 04:50 PM

Solaris for x86 is free, go download it from their site.

Cabal · 02-12-2004, 04:55 PM

But was it free three years ago?

(I don't remember whether 2.6 or 7 was the first freely downloadable one, or when they were released.)

kenzo · 02-12-2004, 05:04 PM

Solaris on your resume is worth less than the vice presidency (a bucket of warm spit) unless you want to work (or continue working) at Sun.

But there's hope - Sun has a revolutionary new OS - Java Desktop System! It must be written completely in Java!

m750 · 02-12-2004, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kenzo
Solaris on your resume is worth less than the vice presidency (a bucket of warm spit) unless you want to work (or continue working) at Sun.

But there's hope - Sun has a revolutionary new OS - Java Desktop System! It must be written completely in Java!

I've heard opinions compared to something, but I don't recall what it was...

kenzo · 02-12-2004, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by m750
I've heard opinions compared to something, but I don't recall what it was...

A bucket of warm crap?

Mumbles · 02-12-2004, 05:22 PM

Quote:

sQrew Microsoft and their XP registration crap

haha, registering XP is so old school.

(hacks are out there).

kenzo · 02-12-2004, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Scoobed
haha, registering XP is so old school.

(hacks are out there).

Stealing is about as "old school" as it gets, but hey, someone hacking for a freebie probably wouldn't get caught, so it must be OK.

Jonathan · 02-12-2004, 05:37 PM

Mandrake, SuSE, Redhat...

Which is bestest ?

Cabal · 02-12-2004, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kenzo
Solaris on your resume is worth less than the vice presidency (a bucket of warm spit) unless you want to work (or continue working) at Sun.

Unless you're working for one of the countless businesses out there with extensive Sun hardware.

Quote:

Originally posted by Jonathan
Mandrake, SuSE, Redhat...

Which is bestest ?

I run Mandrake 9.2 on my desktops, it's pretty slick (though without using one of the big desktop environments or their fancy wizards, I'm probably not using much that's Mandrake-specific).

m750 · 02-12-2004, 06:32 PM

what are you trying to do?
It's all the same linux... it's just how it's put together, what it's bundled with.
AO

Ugly · 02-12-2004, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jonathan
Mandrake, SuSE, Redhat...

Which is bestest ?

Linux flavors are like beer. Everyone has a different fav.

My poison is SuSE.

JGard · 02-12-2004, 08:04 PM

yeah, Solaris would be cool, I suppose

Bout damn time

I have seen the demo of that Java desktop, looks like Sun is rushing 4 years ahead of schedule to get it out. I'm sure it'll be nice and buggy. Looks cool, though.

kenzo · 02-12-2004, 09:06 PM

Hmmm... Linux flavors... MEPIS for the newbie, Gentoo for the experienced control freak.

m750 · 02-12-2004, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JGard
yeah, Solaris would be cool, I suppose Bout damn time

I have seen the demo of that Java desktop, looks like Sun is rushing 4 years ahead of schedule to get it out. I'm sure it'll be nice and buggy. Looks cool, though.

Don't be fooled it's just suse with a nice theme... er semi nice theme.
I've got a feeling the next version will be considerably better, as will it's predecessors. The next release will be out in a few months, if you are considering it, I'd hold off till then. JJ- pm me if you are interested.
AO

AngryBlueRS · 02-12-2004, 10:40 PM

For the Windoze folks that want to give Linux a try but don't want to muck up their system, check this out:
http://www.knoppix.org/

Knoppix is a live Linux file system that runs completely off of CD. Just boot off the CD and it will detect your system and even mount any existing Window's drives. You can then poke around the interface and check things out. When you are done, just reboot off your hard drive and you are back where you started. If you decide you like the distro, the install is pretty easy as well.

There are also many variations off of Knoppix. For example:
http://www.knoppix-std.org/

This is an awesome security focused toolkit that will let you do everything from sniffing to detecting wireless networks to vulnerability assessment to password cracking. There is even a full set of forensic tools so if you have a system that you think has been whacked (could be Windows, Solaris, BSD, Novell, Mac, etc. etc., does not have to be Linux) you can boot off the CD and check for root kits and the like. Very cool stuff.

As for a regular distro, I started off with Slackware (pre 1.x days) then went to Red Hat and now I pretty much stick with SuSE. I like SuSE as it has great desktop support and even works well as a server. I have it running on all my systems except the one I use for playing Colin McRae III.

C

kenzo · 02-12-2004, 11:22 PM

Knoppix is OK, but MEPIS is (IMHO) the best newbie-to-intermediate distro, and it's also a live-CD-that-can-be-installed-to-HD distro.

Here's a fresh review of live CD distros:

Review of live CD Linux distros

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05-08-2001, 06:55 PM	#2
^jynx^ Scooby Specialist Member#: 1787 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Danbury, CT	i LOVE linux but cant get my DSL to run on it........

05-08-2001, 07:41 PM	#3
Longshot Scooby Specialist Member#: 2359 Join Date: Sep 2000 Chapter/Region: NESIC Vehicle: 2001 Impreza 2.0 WRS	Well.. after much discussion with my coworkers I went with Mandrake, and that detected my entire system, so far its been extremely easy to use. Korey

05-08-2001, 09:18 PM	#4
subarurabbit Scooby Guru Member#: 4083 Join Date: Feb 2001 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Reading, MA Vehicle: 2006 OBS SE regal blue	You guys have it easy with these new distributions. I remember days of slakware and v1.2 kernels with experimental PCI bridging. And the jump to 2.0!! Roger

05-09-2001, 04:29 AM	#5
dirk.gecko Scooby Newbie Member#: 3141 Join Date: Dec 2000 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: De Pere, WI Vehicle: 2007 Scion tC Blue or something	Hey, Slackware is still around. I reserve it for those days when I want a good kick in the teeth.

05-09-2001, 04:34 AM	#6
kpratte Scooby Specialist Member#: 2760 Join Date: Oct 2000 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Hudson, NH Vehicle: '08 4Runner V8 Ltd '10 Tundra Ltd CrewMax	Oh nooo, the "I remember when..." stuff! Linux is very nice, but Solaris looks better on a resume, so if I ran unix at home, that's what it would be, but instead I run Win2k and it works fine for me. I still get a giggle over the whole registration thing. Yes for Joe user it sucks, but in the corp environment it isn't really much of an issue because the corp guys end up with a "Select" version anyways which doesn't require registration. But Microsquish still doesn't have a clue because now they are looking at changing their license agreements for the big customers to make it a non-perpetual agreement meaning every 3 years or so you have to keep sending them money. The big companies are going to go nuts if it goes into effect. The more they push this kind of stuff, the more people will think about going to Linux, Solaris or other free OS's.. - Ken

05-09-2001, 06:41 AM	#7
JGard pooptastic Member#: 1904 Join Date: Jul 2000 Chapter/Region: BAIC Location: Foster City, CA Vehicle: 2013 Tundra '02 BMW R1100S	yeah, i have Linux on one of my hard drive's at home. It detected everything just fine, including DSL. The only problem is...I don't know it close to as well as Windows, and MS Office, therefore, I am far less productive on it. I'm working on it, though... Hey Aaron (m750), if you read this, I still want my free copy of Solaris!!!

02-12-2004, 04:31 PM	#8
m750 Scooby Guru Member#: 2278 Join Date: Sep 2000 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Pepperell MA Vehicle: 8Sti \| 07 allez White \| Comp	JJ still want a copy of solaris?

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cdvma Scooby Specialist Member#: 21980 Join Date: Jul 2002 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Central MA Vehicle: 2002 PSM WRX (Sold) 2009 BMW X5	Solaris for x86 is free, go download it from their site.

02-12-2004, 04:55 PM	#11
Cabal Scooby Specialist Member#: 31159 Join Date: Dec 2002 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: Austin, TX Vehicle: 2006 WRX, 2008 2.5i San Remo Red	But was it free three years ago? (I don't remember whether 2.6 or 7 was the first freely downloadable one, or when they were released.)

02-12-2004, 05:04 PM	#12
kenzo Scooby Specialist Member#: 6422 Join Date: May 2001 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Had '02 WRX, '04 STi, '05 LGT Vehicle: 2008 Spec.B / 2008 Tribeca	Solaris on your resume is worth less than the vice presidency (a bucket of warm spit) unless you want to work (or continue working) at Sun. But there's hope - Sun has a revolutionary new OS - Java Desktop System! It must be written completely in Java!

02-12-2004, 05:37 PM	#17
Jonathan Scooby Guru Member#: 4021 Join Date: Feb 2001 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Natick, MA USA Vehicle: 1999 Legacy GT Ltd Quick Silver Metallic	Mandrake, SuSE, Redhat... Which is bestest ?

02-12-2004, 06:32 PM	#19
m750 Scooby Guru Member#: 2278 Join Date: Sep 2000 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Pepperell MA Vehicle: 8Sti \| 07 allez White \| Comp	what are you trying to do? It's all the same linux... it's just how it's put together, what it's bundled with. AO

02-12-2004, 08:04 PM	#21
JGard pooptastic Member#: 1904 Join Date: Jul 2000 Chapter/Region: BAIC Location: Foster City, CA Vehicle: 2013 Tundra '02 BMW R1100S	yeah, Solaris would be cool, I suppose Bout damn time I have seen the demo of that Java desktop, looks like Sun is rushing 4 years ahead of schedule to get it out. I'm sure it'll be nice and buggy. Looks cool, though.

02-12-2004, 09:06 PM	#22
kenzo Scooby Specialist Member#: 6422 Join Date: May 2001 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Had '02 WRX, '04 STi, '05 LGT Vehicle: 2008 Spec.B / 2008 Tribeca	Hmmm... Linux flavors... MEPIS for the newbie, Gentoo for the experienced control freak.

02-12-2004, 10:40 PM	#24
AngryBlueRS Scooby Specialist Member#: 51678 Join Date: Jan 2004 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Bedford, NH Vehicle: 05 STI 87 Rocco dirt beast	For the Windoze folks that want to give Linux a try but don't want to muck up their system, check this out: http://www.knoppix.org/ Knoppix is a live Linux file system that runs completely off of CD. Just boot off the CD and it will detect your system and even mount any existing Window's drives. You can then poke around the interface and check things out. When you are done, just reboot off your hard drive and you are back where you started. If you decide you like the distro, the install is pretty easy as well. There are also many variations off of Knoppix. For example: http://www.knoppix-std.org/ This is an awesome security focused toolkit that will let you do everything from sniffing to detecting wireless networks to vulnerability assessment to password cracking. There is even a full set of forensic tools so if you have a system that you think has been whacked (could be Windows, Solaris, BSD, Novell, Mac, etc. etc., does not have to be Linux) you can boot off the CD and check for root kits and the like. Very cool stuff. As for a regular distro, I started off with Slackware (pre 1.x days) then went to Red Hat and now I pretty much stick with SuSE. I like SuSE as it has great desktop support and even works well as a server. I have it running on all my systems except the one I use for playing Colin McRae III. C

02-12-2004, 11:22 PM	#25
kenzo Scooby Specialist Member#: 6422 Join Date: May 2001 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Had '02 WRX, '04 STi, '05 LGT Vehicle: 2008 Spec.B / 2008 Tribeca	Knoppix is OK, but MEPIS is (IMHO) the best newbie-to-intermediate distro, and it's also a live-CD-that-can-be-installed-to-HD distro. Here's a fresh review of live CD distros: Review of live CD Linux distros