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Old 02-12-2004, 11:38 AM   #1
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Default 5 Sp or Auto? Your advice needed! TIA

Getting ready to pull the trigger on a Turbo. I've planned on a 5 Sp, and I've seen a review that says the Auto isn't a good fit for the Turbo. What's your experience? I'm used to 5Sp and I'm used to power (my beater is a 315 hp. M Coupe ; 0 ) but before I pull the trigger I'd thought I'd get your thoughts.
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Old 02-12-2004, 01:38 PM   #2
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Its all about 5 speeds Toad...Get involved when you're driving...more control..also helps to save those brakes too.
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Old 02-12-2004, 06:39 PM   #3
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Auto Turbos really suck!!! You need to keep your RPM above 4000 to keep the boost up or else you run into the dreaded "Turbo Lag".

I test drove the auto Turbo and it just didnt do it for me... The 5sp manual is way much funner!!!
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Old 02-12-2004, 06:54 PM   #4
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I am an 03-auto owner and if I would have waited a year to pick up my baja I would have defenetly bought the 5 speed turbo. I agree with Baja Milk Get involved and you will enjoy your ride a lot more!!!!!
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Old 02-14-2004, 10:34 AM   #5
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Talking Sticks Rule!

Okay, the SportShift 4EAT is a good choice for day-to-day driving in heavy traffic, but for ANYTHING else where you want to put the turbo to good use, the 5-speed's the only way to fly. In "Drive" the auto is VERY reluctant to downshift, delivering a smooth but lacking drive. When put into manual, the gears shift extremely quickly and smoothly, but there's just too much space between them to keep the engine running in its groove. What I'd really like to see is an STi 6-speed, but until then, get the five and save yourself a grand!
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Old 02-17-2004, 10:32 AM   #6
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Thanks guys! I've just ordered Two Turbos with exactly the options I want. The dealer will let me test drive them both and decide which I want! That is pretty cool! With $750 worth of options at invoice, I'm getting the '04 Turbo 5 Spd for 23 K, or the Auto for $902 more. Not bad!
The reason I'm considering the auto is that I've had 13 knee surgeries, and also that the "'04" auto is better than the "'03".

Also, I've got a real sports car (my M Coupe) to drive for real fun! All that said, I'll drive both the slush box and the 5 Sp. and decide. Now to go hunting for a lockable hard bed cover, snuglid mebbe?

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Old 02-17-2004, 12:47 PM   #7
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John,

I just got my Baja T 4EAT sportshift and I am not a speed deamon. I drive a lot each day, ~100 to 200 miles a day. I went with the auto for 2 readons. My prior subie is a 5mt and I was just fed up with it for driving in traffic. Yes it was a lot more fun, but I have found that the sportshift is close enough for me to get the car into it's groove (not as good as 5mt) but I didn't get the baja for speed. After 200miles (currently) I am extreamly pleased with the auto and have found that it shifts in good intervals and is quick to respond. I have not driven mutch with the sportshift because I am in the break in period, just being parinoid, once the break in is over I will be using it a lot more.

Personly if I was in your situation with a bad knee and a very nice sports car, I would get the Auto for the convience factor and take the M coupe out when you want the real fun.

This is just my .02 worth. Good luck. I know that you are going to love the baja. I really love mine. Just FYI, you might be waiting a little while because I ordered mine on 1/10 and I picked up the one on the lot on friday because the factory said it would be at least April before it would ship.

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Old 02-17-2004, 09:55 PM   #8
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I lucked out. I had a 2003 non-turbo with a 5 speed and there were a few things I didnít like. One was the very low pedal friction point. The cruising rpm was very high, 3500 to 4000 rpm. Next was how easy it was to stall from a stop. Off-roading was really no fun at all. If you needed to back a trailer up a small incline, the clutch would start to smell. Maybe there was something wrong with the fuel management or idle circuit. All I know is that my wife couldnít stand the stalling problems, and it didnít take much to talk her into a new Baja turbo (the luck part) with the auto-stick. Now, as far as fun to drive, the auto stick is just as fun as the 5 speed. As far as speed Ö.. if you need to go faster you bought the wrong car, thatís what the STI is for. Ps the 1st to 2nd shift in the auto mode is right at 6800 rpm.
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Old 03-07-2004, 07:01 PM   #9
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I have an 03 non-turbo 5sp. The 5sp works fine to me. It's a little rough, but this isn't a corvette either! I bought the 5sp because of the 50-50 power split, as opposed to the 90-10 for the auto. The AWD does buck a little bit starting off, until you get used to it. You can hold out your rpm's with the 5sp, and after 4,000 it does seem to get more power up to 5,000 or so. I agree with the stall part though, it does have a tendency to want to do that.
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Old 03-13-2004, 12:42 PM   #10
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Do you really need to ask?
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