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Old 02-12-2004, 11:12 PM   #1
bratislav3162
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Default XT oil consumption ?

My Forester XT (5m) has covered around 16,000km (10,000 miles) so far. Mostly city, some interstate.

Before the first service (which is scheduled at 12,500km) I've
noticed that oil level was getting low. I've topped it up at around
4000km mark with exactly 1 liter of oil, and again at around 8-9000 with another liter.

At the service I've told Subaru about it, few eyebrows
raised, "running in perhaps, very thin oil initially, keep an eye on
it" etc. etc.

I did keep an eye, and after ~3000km took it back to Subaru where they had to to up another 0.7 liters. That raised an alarm a bit, so I questioned normality of this.

What I got as response rang the alarm bells even more ! Apparently, anything up to one liter of oil per 2000km is still
considered "normal" by Subaru.

Well, if my car was 25 years old with a blown gasket, perhaps. As is, I have this wonderful high tech engine that could potenially burn more oil than does petrol, and that to me doesn't sound right for a < 6 months old car.

Anyone with similar problem ? Sorry, "experience", as clearly Subaru doesn't see this as a problem.

Bratislav
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Old 02-13-2004, 07:28 AM   #2
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I haven't heard of other XTs being oil consumers. Ours is not.

The quote of 1 liter oil consumption for 1000 miles/2000 kilometers is commonly said by a lot of car manufacturers.

Many engines do consume oil in their first few 1000 miles, but at 10K miles, the break in period should essentially be over.

I don't find this consumption number normal or comforting either, but I have heard it before on other forums.

I would keep an eye on it and keep reminding your dealer about this problem (or find another dealer). At some point you may want to do a compression test to find where the oil is going -- it'd be nice if you can convince a dealer to check things out this way.
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Old 02-13-2004, 08:18 AM   #3
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Check your intercooler. I doubt it's burning it but if you look at Peaty's oil catch can writeup, you can see that some blowby is pushing oil to the intercooler. If you can show them that the car isn't consuming oil, but actually blowing it into the intercooler, you can make the argument that it's detrimental to the performance and maintenance of the car and that they should service it.

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Old 02-13-2004, 03:51 PM   #4
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I had a Honda element before my new FXT and Honda stated up to 1 quart per 3000 miles is normal. I was shocked by this comment but obviously this is normal with new engines.(scratches head).
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Old 02-18-2004, 06:48 PM   #5
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Hi,

I'm experiencing a similar problem. I bought an 04 XT in November. I did the first oil change at 2,930 miles and it had consumed 2 quarts of oil. I did my second oil change at 5,230 miles and it had consumed 1.5 quarts of oil.

I have since taken my forester to the dealer for an "oil consumption test". The dealer claims that up to 1qt of oil per 1,000 miles is normal. The other car in our family is a 97 toyota tacoma 4x4 with 160,000 miles on it. It does not use ANY oil and I can't believe that Subaru would think that I would accept there excuse as valid. I've also spoken with a friend who has a WRX and he's having similar issues.

Could this be a widespread issue that Subaru is not forthcoming about?
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Old 02-19-2004, 10:07 AM   #6
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No oil loss at all here.
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Old 02-19-2004, 12:43 PM   #7
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None here either, I'm at 12,500Mi currently. Something to consider is the owners manual does not have the proper Oil capacity listed. When you change the oil and filter for he XT you should be adding 5 Qts. Doesn't sound like enough to make up what some of you guys are seeing but I wanted to mention it.

Info on that here:

http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/sho...&threadid=2783
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Old 02-19-2004, 11:05 PM   #8
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It is an issue with the subys my old 02 2.5 went through 1 qt every 1000 miles then at about 26000 i had to have a new short block put in cause of 40% leak down past the rings........um no..
i dont like but thats even an issue with porsche also. its because of the why the motor is its a boxer it sits side ways for one.

so i dont like it but the car is still good and hopfully they find a solve for it some time.
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