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Old 02-15-2004, 02:37 PM   #1
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Does anyone have the Catz Galaxy White 9007 bulbs installed? If so, can you show me some pics in action? I currently have the Piaa's extreme white plus bulbs but they produce a slight yellowish tint which i really dislike. I'm looking for a non HID aftermarket bulb that will produce pure white light...well light blue or purple tint is fine..nothing strong, just as long it doesn't have any yellowness present. I see that the Catz Galaxy whites burn at 4300k, so i assume its pure white with a touch of purpleness. I'm just trying to match my fogs (piaa's extreme white h3) which burn at 4150k and its purely white, just like some lexus hid's, no kiddin. Anyways hope someone can help me with some pics and advice..... or any other recommendations? plz... you can either reply to this post or email me directly at "diversity83@hotmail.com" thanks in adv.!
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Old 02-15-2004, 04:14 PM   #2
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"true white" or the truest "white" that can be artificially generated is 5000 K. That is the best balance we can achieve in the color spectrum. Above 5000K it goes bluish and eventually into ultraviolet, below 5000 K it goes into yellow, then red, then infrared.

The Kelvin rating on bulbs is NOT the brightness of the bulb (that is determined by bulb design and wattage). Instead, what the Kelvin rating is actually dictating is the wavelength of light in the visible spectrum of light.

SO, in conclusion. The closer to 5000K you get, the whiter the light is.

When buying lights, stay away from anything with a bulb coating on it. All blue and purple coatings limit the output of light (while changing the color). The less coating there is, the more light will pass through the blub.

Any light over 5000K will have a bluish tint to it, and the higher up the scale you go, the closer you get to a purplish tint.

Your PIAA Extreme White H3's burning at 4150K are going to be more yellow than a pure 5000K bulb.

Physics lesson aside, I'd recomend any Xenon filled bulb burning at 5000K or slightly higher. Pick up a set of 95/110 watt bulbs and a heavy duty Wiring harness, and you'll have more light than you know what to do with.

I'd suggest a set of bulbs from www.Xenonmods.com . I've had my bulbs for more than a year (95/110) and they have been great. I plan on running the same exact bulbs in my 94 Turbo along with a HD wiring harness.
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Old 02-15-2004, 08:08 PM   #3
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lol thanks for the physics 101 lecture, ahahah j/k.
well my saying of "pure white" doesn't necessarily mean sunlight white, ahah, I'm just looking for bulbs that produce bright white light w/o any yellow present....just like my h3's... looking at it head on looks pure white to me, even on the wall reflection. I could almost say its real HID's, but anyways... the headlights are the problem.... you can see this link here, just scroll down and you'll see the front of my ride... lol i know i know, i took the shots during the day making it obviously more yellow but still, you can see the diff. between the fogs and heads. (i'm temp. disabled right now due to an accident, so couldn't get the night shots... sorry)

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...d.php?t=173908

Sure the fogs Piaa's extreme white h3 bulbs aren't like this wallpaper white, but they sure don't have any yellowish tint present and thats what i want to achieve w/ the new bulbs...
assuming the addition to an extra 150 to the kelvin temp.. it better be white, ahah
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Old 02-15-2004, 08:21 PM   #4
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Lol, are the PIAA H3 bulbs coated with anything?

Lower Kelvin rated bulbs are coated, as I said, to cancel out some yellowness. This, however, reduces output of the light.

That said, any 5000k bulb will have absolutely zero yellowness to it, and the depth of purple or blue will be based on the coating on the bulb.
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Old 02-15-2004, 10:11 PM   #5
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ever think about the HID route? I mean your PIAAs must have cost $60+ already, there are like $200-300 HID kits out there, and those will truly give you the brightest output.
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Old 02-15-2004, 11:24 PM   #6
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ever think about the HID route? I mean your PIAAs must have cost $60+ already, there are like $200-300 HID kits out there, and those will truly give you the brightest output.
yeah i actually did many times, but with state laws coming down on you all the time.....don't think i wanna take that route....nor do i wanna get it replaced if ever in a accident....... eheh. Well the Piaa's costed me around 70+ and the Catz I'm looking to buy are pretty much at the same price.. $76 w/ shipping. Thats pretty much my finally on changing bulbs on my ride... cuz after this, I'm going luxery lol. I won't have to mess with lights or the interior.....anyways, hope someone can show me some pics soon...
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Check these out hoss. Just what you need. I have the same lights on my car, no problems and TONS of light on the road. The extra wattage doesn't do a whole lot unless you have a wiring harness upgrade. If you don't have one, then I would upgrade that before ditching your PIAA's. This is the purest white you can get a bulb in.

http://66.67.6.179/9007xenoninfo.htm
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Old 02-16-2004, 03:03 AM   #8
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Check these out hoss. Just what you need. I have the same lights on my car, no problems and TONS of light on the road. The extra wattage doesn't do a whole lot unless you have a wiring harness upgrade. If you don't have one, then I would upgrade that before ditching your PIAA's. This is the purest white you can get a bulb in.

http://66.67.6.179/9007xenoninfo.htm
eheh thanks for trying to help but i'm really skeptical about buying non-brand name bulbs....especially the ones that uses more wattage. My nissan xterra 02's stock takes 65w/55w and the piaa's have the same wattage....along w/ the Catz Galaxy Whites i'm trying to get. The only reason why i'm jumping from PIAA's to Catz is due to there quality and popularity...pretty much both in the same range. I wish i could post the pic of the bulbs, but don't know how on this site.... All i can say, the bulbs have a plasma like coating on it, but not too much so you can still see through it.
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Standard wattage in car lighting is 55w low beam, 65w high beam.

Not that I'm trying to sell you (I couldn't care less, lol. Rich is a friend of mine, but it ain't my site), but I just want to make sure you know that brightness is determined by wattage output, not Kelvin rating.

Also know that 5000K is going to be as close to pure white that can be artifically produced. Anything lower WILL have a yellow tint (which is usually offset by tinting the glass, which actually limits light output since it blocks certain light wavelengths. Just like how light becomes dimmer when you put a gel or filter in front of it).

Just something to keep in mind. You can get a feel for the color of the actual light based on the Kelvin rating (a 3500K bulb will be yellow given a clear bulb). The coating of a bulb will determine tint. The further down the Kelvin scale the bulb goes, the heavier the coating is going to have to be to cancel out the yellow.

While you may get the look you want looking at the car, it's the output and what light hits the ground that's important. I'd rather be able to see at night than look good at night.

FWIW, Rich is a Vendor at the JeepsUnlimited forums. Buying from him is just as safe as buying from a vendor here. Of course, that's all up to you, I just want to make sure you have all the info.
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Old 02-16-2004, 02:54 PM   #10
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Here, check out the pic of the Catz bulbs:

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Old 02-16-2004, 03:38 PM   #11
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I don't know what you wan't me to say. I'd say it's a waste of $70 bucks. You may get the look you are going for, but that's no good if it won't put the light on the ground. 4300K is NOT white.

I'll take a picture of my car tonight with the lights on (95/110w lights from xenonmods.com, they are just over a year old now, stock wiring harness).
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Old 02-16-2004, 05:02 PM   #12
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lol, the bulbs look bad or something? eheh, yeah plz post some pics, i'd like to see yours in action. If it even got to a point where i decided to go with higher wattage bulbs, I won't even know how to upgrade my wiring harness.... Anyways in about 2 months or so, my pops might get me a bmw 325i 04' so i might not even bother with these upgrades....but just incase it doesn't happen soon, i'm still interested in seeing these bulbs in action.
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Well, Rich has upgraded harnesses. So does www.suvlights.com (my neighbor got 2 for his 99 Taurus SHO, 1 for headlights, 1 for fog lights). I'll be getting mine from Rich.

I'll snag some pics as soon as it gets dark.

Look at it this way, the harness will run you ~40 to 50 depending on demand at the time (price varies). The bulbs are 20.

Same price as the Catz, but higher wattage and relatively safer delivery of power. The harness is something that is ALWAYS beneficial.
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Old 02-16-2004, 09:04 PM   #14
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As requested, I just froze my cojones off walking 1/4 mile to my car.

These are the 5000K head lights. Keep in mind a few things. #1, the pics are resized, some quality obviously lost. #2, These are on a stock wiring harness. #3, These bulbs are more than 1 year old (I got them LAST January).

Low-beam projection. Snow on top of grass, downhill slope.


Low-beam shining on snow.


High-Beam on snow.


Head-on with the High-Beam. (Note: The green you see is actually glare from my paint)
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Old 02-17-2004, 01:31 AM   #15
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ahah didn't know you'd have to walk 1/4 of a mile to take those shots, sorry mate. Well just for that, i'll take my temporary disabled but outside w/ the crutches and get some night shots of my current bulbs. Anyhow, check out this kelvin chart, this pretty much explains what you are explaining to me in a more simplistic visual friendly way. eheh

http://www.3drender.com/glossary/colortemp.htm
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Ok, got the pics for ya... but its on my noob site

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Ahh, I was taking color temperature samples from the actual spectrum of visual light, not nature. It's easier to manufacture a light with it's color based on the actual spectrum rather than what the light appears to be in nature. I don't know of any pure white (even mix of all colors) in nature. Even sunlight has a yellow tint to it.

Looking at your pictures, you can see noticeable yellow-ness on the bulbs. Jumping up 100K isn't going to make it noticeably whiter. The only thing going to the new bulbs will do is augment the light through the coating. It'll look white, but that's just because of the coating. Look at the head-on comparison of our lights any you can see the difference between your 4150K bulbs and my 5000K bulbs.

So, take what I've said with a grain of salt. I'd recomend the HD harness regardless of bulb wattage. But I think 20 bucks is a less expensive mistake than 70 for the Catz.
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LoL i'm glad you noticed the yellowness coming from the headlights. Well anyhow, I'm not going with catz galaxy whites anymore......from my extensive online research, that bulb is like almost 3 years old, so n/m. Now i'm actually looking at the Sylvania's Silverstar again.... it was my first choice for my next upgrade at first, but than i was skeptical about its performance since it also burned at 4000k, just like my current piaa's.... Anyhow, do you have any experiences with the silverstars? lol sorry to drag you through all of this.....i really appreciate your assistants.
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btw, if you have msn or aol, maybe we can just chat through that rather than posting and waiting for a response. Well let me know. thanks!
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Check these out hoss. Just what you need. I have the same lights on my car, no problems and TONS of light on the road. The extra wattage doesn't do a whole lot unless you have a wiring harness upgrade. If you don't have one, then I would upgrade that before ditching your PIAA's. This is the purest white you can get a bulb in.

http://66.67.6.179/9007xenoninfo.htm

you got to be kidding...

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those bulbs are crap....i had a set in the GC since i found them for 15 at a local shop....they looked good for abouy a week...then it rained...they were useless....then on certain surfaces it was hard to decide if they were even on....then they started to melt the harness...they "looked" pretty nice, but as far as function and reliability went they suck....big time...
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CATZ H4's... been very happy with them...
purchased 1/20/2001
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wow, i don't know what to say on this one........no offense but those lights look all yellow to me. LoL not yellow as in this banana here , but I can definitely see the yellowness. Maybe its becuz you had them for almost 3 years, lol. Anyways, thanks for those pics
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It's fairly obvious that I'm not.

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those bulbs are crap....i had a set in the GC since i found them for 15 at a local shop....they looked good for abouy a week...then it rained...they were useless....then on certain surfaces it was hard to decide if they were even on....then they started to melt the harness...they "looked" pretty nice, but as far as function and reliability went they suck....big time...
I have had zero problems in the 58+ weeks of use. Rain, snow, Hurricane Isabel, Fog, Dark, Dusk, Dawn, Sleet, On pavement, grass, dirt, gravel, and the occasionaly flooded mountain road. I've never had any visibility problems in the least. I've had no harness melting problems, nor the "are they on?" syndrome. Maybe you got a bum set? The light you see above is coming from a set of bulbs more than 1 year old on a stock wiring harness. I will likely be running the same bulbs in my 94 with a HD harness.

Dtech - My neighbor has a set of Silverstars on his 1999 Ford Taurus SHO. He's got a HD wiring harness and has NO problems with light. They look great. I am getting him to take pictures right now. I'll post them within 10 minutes or so.
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Silverstar Low-beams (with HD Harness)


Silverstar High-Beams (with HD Harness)


Those, incidentally, are also the Silverstar turnsignals
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Does the HD harness upgrade make a big diff.? Or is it just for precautionary use? Also, would it be possible to ask your friend if he notices any yellowness? Well from the pics, I really don't notice any, but just want to make sure. LoL they do look whiter than my heads though, eheh. Again, thanks you so much for your help bac5.2!
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