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Old 02-19-2004, 06:00 PM   #1
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Default 30k service...$595?!

i just am coming up to 30k miles and the stealership wants 595 to do it.

is this a reasonable deal or should I look elsewhere for getting all that done?
I am also goin in for clutch shudder tsb.

what all do they do?

i doubt i have time to do it myself being af ull time student.
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Old 02-19-2004, 06:08 PM   #2
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$595?

Break out your owner's manual. Write down the things for the 30k. Do the things you can/have time for yourself. Take it to your dealer and say, "I need X, X, X, & X done". Most places like tire stores can also do the same work for cheaper as well. Alternately, you could post in the Texas forum and see if a local guy will do it for you. Local shadetree mechanics are far cheaper.
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Old 02-19-2004, 10:58 PM   #3
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Yeah; thats very high and you don't have to have the dealer do any of it. Do as much as you can yourself and find a regular mechanic to do the rest.
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Old 02-20-2004, 02:12 AM   #4
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i did it all myself. Its not hard at all with basic tools even.
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Old 02-20-2004, 09:47 AM   #5
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Here’s the 30K from my.subaru.com (for my car. Your mileage may vary). Inspections cost nothing, of course.Some things may be different with your MY, so it would be worth a visit and registration with my.subaru.com.



Inspect Clutch and hill-holder system -SELF
Replace Spark plugs - 2500cc SOHC-SELF
Replace Spark plugs - 2200cc-SELF ($10)
Inspect Steering and suspension -SELF
Perform Inspect brake lines and check operation of parking and service brake system-SELF
Inspect Brake linings and drums-SELF
Inspect Disc brake pads and discs, front and rear axle boots and axle shaft joint portions-SELF
Replace Brake fluid-POSSIBLY SELF. MECHANIC IF NOT COMFY WITH IT.
Inspect Automatic transmission fluid -SELF
Inspect Transmission/Differential (Front & Rear) lubricants (Gear oil)-SELF
Replace Air cleaner element-SELF ($10)
Recommended Performance Replace fuel filter and inspect fuel system, hoses and connections-SELF
Perform Replace engine coolant and inspect cooling system, hoses and connections-SELF ($13 for genuine Subaru coolant)
Replace Engine oil filter-SELF ($5-6)
Replace Engine oil-SELF ($8-$30)
Inspect Camshaft drive belt-SELF
Inspect Drive belt(s) [Except camshaft] -SELF

TOTAL = $40 to 70, tops. You can buy a nice set of basic tools and accessories for another $75 to $100, $20 for a Haynes manual, and still be way ahead ... and have tools for next time.

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Old 02-20-2004, 12:29 PM   #6
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alright...im going to bring this list of prices to the stealership

and then demand that they give me a lower price.
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Old 02-20-2004, 01:57 PM   #7
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Good luck; I'm sure their prices are all standard and not negotiable. In general dealerships are the most expensive places to get wrk done; I only go there for Subaru-specific problems.
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Old 02-20-2004, 02:18 PM   #8
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(possible dealership responses to your "demands")

Mike's right, I think you misunderstood. That's what they charge at the dealership, but you don't have to have the dealership do all the service items. Do some stuff on your own, have another shop do what you aren't comfortable with.



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Old 02-20-2004, 04:25 PM   #9
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Yeah....the dealer will A. charge you a premium price for the parts you need and B. charge you a premium for putting them in.

That's just what they do. They know their customers don't know how to do this stuff, or know but don't want to be bothered, or don't have the time or the space, or are willing to pay whatever just to get it done.

The compromise would be to take your car to different places to do a lot of the stuff. Some places like Midas will do under car inspections for free. Pep Boys will do free brake inspections. Oil and filter changes can be had many places for less than $15 or $20. Tune ups can be had for $30 or so with a coupon at some places (this will cover spark plugs replacement and various fuel system inspections and timing adjustments.) Many places now have coolant flush specials for $40. So, you can have a lot of this stuff done by "professionals" over a few weeks for less than half of what the dealer would charge, or you can do a lot yourself in an afternoon for 1/5.
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Old 02-20-2004, 07:42 PM   #10
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Yeah I wouldnt go into the dealer and start demanding things... unless you are really good at being annoying as hell and getting what you want; but even then, they will be sure to screw it up on purpose.
An hour here an hour there over a few days and you'll have it done before you know it.
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Old 02-21-2004, 02:18 AM   #11
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Old 02-21-2004, 01:15 PM   #12
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Default 30k maintenance

Ok,
1.) So air filter - I changed myself.
2.) I had my oil and filter changed and my differential and trans fluids changed.
3.) I can obviously change the gas filter myself.
4.) What about the spark plugs? Do I need to "gap" them or anything before install or are they already pregapped?
5.) I guess I can change the antifreeze myself.
6.) The brake check, tire rotation and clutch check /adjustment I'l have the mechanic do.


Anything else you recommend for 30k service????

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Old 02-22-2004, 02:30 AM   #13
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Just keep up with the general stuff yourself. $600 is an assrape for that stuff but at about $70/hr they make out well.

Perhaps just do a few things yourself each day. I too am a full time student and work full time, I still have a bit of time for the rides.

Plugs come pregapped but it never hurts to check them.
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Old 02-22-2004, 09:32 AM   #14
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Doing the math, you are into about 150-200 in parts (depending on dealer markup: I spent $150 buying my own from a discounted shop dealing in Subaru parts).

Factor in *realistic* labor, and you are at 3 hours time to complete. IMHO, a fair price is $350-400 tops.

A mechanic is not going to complete this in a hour: it does take some time, as I spent 3-4 hours of my own time going slowly and without a lift, but I am not a turtle: having done my own maintenance on cars for the past 200K of aggregate miles among them

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Old 02-22-2004, 09:42 AM   #15
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It's very easy to do tire rotation yourself; all you need is an extra jack. In theory you should use a torque wrench but I never have and have never had a problem. While the tires are off, check out the brake lines, CV joint boots, etc. for anything lose or damaged. Also adjust the tire pressures after you rotate--it should be higher in the front tires.
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Old 02-22-2004, 05:34 PM   #16
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Excuse the stupidity.....

So is setting the gap on the spark plugs necessary or are they pregapped and you just screw them in???
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Old 02-22-2004, 05:38 PM   #17
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Some come pre-gapped, but you should none-the-less check them and possibly re-gap them.

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Old 02-23-2004, 10:13 AM   #18
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Yeah..I remember my 30k service...it was the first week I owned the car (bought used at 27k, drove it 280mi home). (yes, I paid it =P)

I didn't know subies yet and just wanted someone else to check it out and make sure that it's all good.

I can do the rest myself now.
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Old 02-23-2004, 12:00 PM   #19
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So what spark plugs do you guys recommend- platinum or copper?

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Old 02-23-2004, 12:25 PM   #20
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If you don't mind changing your plugs once a year or more, go with copper. . .they give you a bit more power. Otherwise, I'd go with platinum if you can find them or iridium.

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Old 02-24-2004, 12:56 AM   #21
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How long should the plats last?
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Old 02-24-2004, 01:24 AM   #22
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Platinums should last a long time. . .I don't remember the mileage, but it's up there. If I had to guess, I would say that you'd be good for at least 45k miles.
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Old 02-24-2004, 04:29 PM   #23
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Platinums should last a long time. . .I don't remember the mileage, but it's up there. If I had to guess, I would say that you'd be good for at least 45k miles.
do the Plugs need changed at 30K ... i sware the manual says 45k or 60k IIRC

im allmost at 30K and didnt think i needed to worry about the plugs
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Old 02-24-2004, 04:32 PM   #24
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I don't remember what the recommendations are out of the manual. I swapped out my stock plugs for coppers and change them every year. You could probably go 60k on platinums.

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Old 02-26-2004, 01:33 AM   #25
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Milin, thanks for posting this up. I'm also thinking doing the 30,000 tune up myself. I was thinking about bring it in at 15,000, I ended up doing everything myself. You can find almost all of the "Do it yourself" stuff (fuel filter, spark plug walk) step by step walkthrough from scoobymods. I did the usually engine oil, oil filter, air filter and tranny oil change before. However, I'm a little unclear what to check / inspect when it comes to brakes and belts. So I might do just that with at the dealers. But yeah, $70/hr is standard, but the cold clutch shudder they are going to do it for free. (I just did the clutch shudder about 1000 miles ago, before that, I never knew driving mannal could be so much fun, and it didn't cause me a penny.

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