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Old 02-19-2004, 10:59 PM   #1
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Default Please help me find the member that robbed me of $500 and 6k in parts and labor!

I am looking for the member who used to be called RobPA his name is Rob Hanson and he used to live in Glenside PA. I have his address if anyone wants to know, but just to be a better man ill not include that info on this post. I bought his car, from him last year, and when I bought it i sent him an extra 500 dollars because we were going to be splitting the cost of shipping and he never shipped the car. he also took numerous parts off the car including a NOS No2 bottle and headlight covers, stock fuel rails, a boost controller, and many other things. I had a friend of mine drive the car out here and by the time he got here with it, There were some big problems.....

the head gaskets Rob had the shop use, were way too thin, and thus caused head -piston contact, and eventually led to major marirng on all 4 piston crowns, bent valves on one bank of cylinders, and egg shaped rob bearings. even the rods needed to be reconditioned. also the ****-head who ported the heads for rob over ported in some cylinders and forgot to grind one of the valve seals, and the motor never got proper compression. also the downpipe that he used on the project was not a split downpipe, and the turbo was an AVO 450 which needs a better downpipe since the wastegate is devorced from the exhaust discharge, and the turbo also failed. I have writeups on all of this from noneother than Trey at Cobb Tuning confirming everything that happened to the shortblock and from Ron at Axis Power Racing confirming about the head problems.

I went through a time when i was thinking that my friend put too low octane fuel in the car once on the way back, and detonated the motor to death, but after the inspection of the motor, my suspicions were confirmed as well, that I was ripped off by Rob Hanson. The write-up of Cobb tuning, and inspection by Ron at Axis power racing, are enough evidence of this.

I want to FIND ROB, and i want to file a complaint or a theft report, and complaint with Ebay. i have multiple emails from Rob stating that he would reimburse me for all the money, and all the parts, then he stopped emailing me and returning my calls, and elegidly moved away from his home.

So if any of you could please help me in this Id be greatfull.

Jared
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Old 02-20-2004, 01:05 AM   #2
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Ouch, goodluck. I know he has ripped of many people on here. I think there is a couple of people who know where he lives now. Do a search and read some of the threads. I'm sure they have more information for you.
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Old 02-20-2004, 01:47 AM   #3
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good luck jared nelson
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Old 02-20-2004, 02:35 AM   #4
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This is the stroked 2.4L car right..?

The now defunct ILP Performance out of Nazareth PA did the work on his car, and they closed up shop mid project and he had some troubles getting the car back from them. Not sure who finished it or if it was done though. I think maybe TeamIAC/AZP Installs might of towed it from ILP to another location. PM Mike at AZP Installs they might have an address that it was towed to on file or something.

if this is who im thinking of im guessing this was over a year ago now.

where are you located?
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Old 02-20-2004, 03:00 AM   #5
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This is the stroked 2.4L car right..?

The now defunct ILP Performance out of Nazareth PA did the work on his car, and they closed up shop mid project and he had some troubles getting the car back from them. Not sure who finished it or if it was done though. I think maybe TeamIAC/AZP Installs might of towed it from ILP to another location. PM Mike at AZP Installs they might have an address that it was towed to on file or something.

if this is who im thinking of im guessing this was over a year ago now.

where are you located?
Nah we towed the OBS out to Harrisburg for Kevin Thomas.

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Old 02-20-2004, 03:02 AM   #6
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I am looking for the member who used to be called RobPA his name is Rob Hanson and he used to live in Glenside PA. I have his address if anyone wants to know, but just to be a better man ill not include that info on this post. I bought his car, from him last year, and when I bought it i sent him an extra 500 dollars because we were going to be splitting the cost of shipping and he never shipped the car. he also took numerous parts off the car including a NOS No2 bottle and headlight covers, stock fuel rails, a boost controller, and many other things. I had a friend of mine drive the car out here and by the time he got here with it, There were some big problems.....

the head gaskets Rob had the shop use, were way too thin, and thus caused head -piston contact, and eventually led to major marirng on all 4 piston crowns, bent valves on one bank of cylinders, and egg shaped rob bearings. even the rods needed to be reconditioned. also the ****-head who ported the heads for rob over ported in some cylinders and forgot to grind one of the valve seals, and the motor never got proper compression. also the downpipe that he used on the project was not a split downpipe, and the turbo was an AVO 450 which needs a better downpipe since the wastegate is devorced from the exhaust discharge, and the turbo also failed. I have writeups on all of this from noneother than Trey at Cobb Tuning confirming everything that happened to the shortblock and from Ron at Axis Power Racing confirming about the head problems.

I went through a time when i was thinking that my friend put too low octane fuel in the car once on the way back, and detonated the motor to death, but after the inspection of the motor, my suspicions were confirmed as well, that I was ripped off by Rob Hanson. The write-up of Cobb tuning, and inspection by Ron at Axis power racing, are enough evidence of this.

I want to FIND ROB, and i want to file a complaint or a theft report, and complaint with Ebay. i have multiple emails from Rob stating that he would reimburse me for all the money, and all the parts, then he stopped emailing me and returning my calls, and elegidly moved away from his home.

So if any of you could please help me in this Id be greatfull.

Jared
No offense but...

1) It was last year, kinda late to be going after him now.
2) Most if not all private car sales are "as is" w/o any kind of written or implied warranties. Especially if you buy it off Ebay.

Good luck, it's a crappy thing he did if he did it, but I doubt even the law can help you, some of the lawyers on here might jump in.

-mike
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Old 02-20-2004, 07:40 AM   #7
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No offense but...

1) It was last year, kinda late to be going after him now.
2) Most if not all private car sales are "as is" w/o any kind of written or implied warranties. Especially if you buy it off Ebay.

Good luck, it's a crappy thing he did if he did it, but I doubt even the law can help you, some of the lawyers on here might jump in.

-mike
Yeah, what he said.

The car ran when your friend picked it up. It's your word against his on "how good it ran". You better have excellent documentation on the purchase of the car, a bill of sale with an itemized list of what is to be included, a detailed part about the exhange of money for shipping, etc...

No court is going to give a crap what Trey Cobb or any other tuner said about what happened to the motor if the car ran when your friend left Rob's place.

Sorry this happened to you.

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Old 02-20-2004, 07:59 AM   #8
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I remember seeing the eBay auction for that car ... I'm sure it was listed as being an incomplete project.
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Old 02-20-2004, 08:21 AM   #9
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THis is a black automatic right??? I think that car was tuned at AWE correct?
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Old 02-20-2004, 06:35 PM   #10
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yeah most of you are correct. the thing is that im not ****ting on him for what happened to the motor it was not his fault. the things that i want now are the NOS bottle, and all the other parts that he said hed send along with the car. and the 500 dollars that i over payed him to get the car shipped that he never gave me.

yes this was about 9 months ago or something like that when i bought the car, but it took me about 3 months to get the car, since he was dragging his feet in shipping the car, and ive only had it running now for almost a month. thats why im going after it all now because i now have a perfect itemization of what went wrong, even though im not going after him for the motor, its just icing on my **** cake. he told me that he was sending the 500 many many times, along with the No2 bottle, and all the other parts including, fog light covers, a brand new mirror unit on the passenger side a new gas door, and much other crap.

and yes the car was tuned at AWE

no the car was not listed as an incomplete project either ive got the auction right here.
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Old 02-20-2004, 11:29 PM   #11
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Contact E-bay. Every car sold on E-bay usually comes with a warranty from them up to $1k I think. I bought a cheap 95 impreza on there and went to pick it up. On e-bay pics sound cleaned engine bay, I asked if it was oil he said no. I pop the hood and there is oil on everything in the whole engine compartment. 2 the windows were missing pieces and I said I ain't taking this. I got an e-mail after winning auction from e-bay saying it was eligible for the warranty thing. hope that helps.
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Old 02-21-2004, 05:59 AM   #12
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Old 02-21-2004, 09:29 AM   #13
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If he made any explicit warranties about the vehicle, those are actionable. Damages for the parts that were originally represented as included in the sale are recoverable. Also if any of the motor work can be identified as a specific shop you may check out the warranty they offered..although a year later I doubt you could enforce it..depending upon it's written terms.

I hope everything works out for you...it always seems like whenever something can go wrong it does (murphy's law)...

Anyway, good luck w/ it all
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