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Old 02-23-2004, 06:11 PM   #1
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Default Craftsman vs. Husky air compressor

So, I'm looking at getting an air compressor and some tools for doing work on the car. There are a couple of combo deals that I'm looking at and was hoping the wise members of offtopic could help me choose one.

First is a 6 hp, 30 gallon craftsman compressor with a 1/2" impact wrench, 3/8" air rachet, and an air hammer.

The second is a 5hp (I think) 25 gallon Huskycompressor with a 1/2" impact wrench, 3/8 rachet, air hammer, air rotary tool (dremel type thingy), and a paint sprayer.

The cost for the two is the same and the extra tools would be nice but not if it means that the compressor part is going to be much crappier. Also, I think that Home Depot has a good warranty policy on the Husky stuff but I'm not sure, so any insight there would be helpful.

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Old 02-23-2004, 06:23 PM   #2
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The dremel-type-thingy is a big air hog, especially if you are running it constantly, like if you are porting heads. The impact wrenches are hogs too, but generally speaking, you are running them for less time, and the compressor can keep up with you. There doesn't seem to be too much of a difference between the 2 compressors, but the most important thing is the CFM. You may find that the smaller compressor has a similar CFM rating as the larger compressor, making it a viable choice. You might find that 2 different compressors with same size tanks and same horsepower motors have different CFM numbers. More CFM=better. Shop around, sears, Home Depot, Lowes, TSC (if you have one) all have compressors, sometimes on sale, hold out for one with the best CFM rating with similar hp and storage #'s and you should be fine. Most of the high speed compressors last quite a long time before they croak.
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Old 02-23-2004, 06:33 PM   #3
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Talk to Gordon (gravelrash) and ask him what his is. It's QUIET!!!

I think he also might have an older one to get rid of if you don't mind teh used.
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Old 02-23-2004, 06:38 PM   #4
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Yeah, I forgot to check the CFM numbers on the Husky and I can't find the information online. I plan on going back to check that.

And I'll talk to Gordon as quiet would be good. Don't want to piss off the new neighbors right away. Unfortunately quiet usually means more money.
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Old 02-23-2004, 07:09 PM   #5
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Old 02-23-2004, 07:16 PM   #6
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Get the most expensive compressor you can afford. Air tools are CHEAP afterwards. Especially the same quality air tools you would get with this "deal". I myself have never seen anyone use or have personally used the air hammer, so I think thats a waste. If you go so far as to use a sprayer you will want something much nicer then the ones that come with the kits.

Examples:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=02623
Harbor Freight earthquake gun. Will get ANY bolt off. 625ft lbs. I have this and love the hell out of it. The $120 ingersoll rand is sitting on the shelf not being used after picking this up $70

Die Grinder kit with bits
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=44716 $9

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http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=47214 $17

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Old 02-24-2004, 10:47 AM   #7
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Old 02-24-2004, 11:05 AM   #8
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i have both actually.
the older sears one i use to recharge my water holding tank.
the newer husky i use in the garage.

the automatic regulator has broken on both of them.
the sears lasted about 15 years.
the husky broke in about 3 months...
not quite sure what my particular issue is with breaking them, but fwiw the craftsman is built better. (way noiser too)
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Old 02-24-2004, 02:59 PM   #9
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Hmm, thats not very encouraging about the Husky. Did you try to get either of them fixed under warranty?
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Old 02-24-2004, 03:42 PM   #10
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It would appear that the Sears unit is an "oil-less" type and has 6.4cfm at 90psi (I did not check the Husky spec, but I am sure it is pretty similar.) I agree w/ the other comments regarding CFM. I always think 9-10cfm is fair target for well-rounded air tool use.

I believe the oil-less styles are louder (more "buzzy") than an oil-lubed compressor. They will likely fail sooner as well. Oil-lubed pumps spin at a much slower RPM which helps extend their lifespan.

Rated HP: The 5 or 6hp compressors you list are not anywhere close to that. Those are "peak" ratings that have NOTHING to do w/ the actual hp rating of the motor. Pay attention to the voltage/amperage ratings on anything you are looking at. The best spec. in the world won't help you much if you don't have the right power source to plug it in. Hint: If it plugs into a standard household outlet...it is 1.5hp MAX.

Tank size: 25-30gal. is a nice tank size for a portable compressor. I have used a 1hp, 10gal. for many years and I'll tell you, in low-pressure situations where storage is of greater benefit than volume produced, a 10gal. tank is small!

Brand: My 1hp unit is a Craftsman and has been used (homeowner use) a lot since it was new in 1980. I'll tell you it does not get the best maintenance in the world either. I have no practical experience w/ Husky.

Obligatory boasting: My "new" compressor is +/-20cfm at 175psi, 80gal. tank.

Final thought: Are you mechanically competent and not scared to rebuild? An air compressor is a very simple thing when it comes down to it. A used or surplus unit can be had and motors/pumps/etc. replaced, netting you a more capable unit than you otherwise would have.
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Old 02-24-2004, 03:52 PM   #11
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Another nod for CFM's importance.

If you can't find a rating on the package a general rule is 4cfm per HP on a dual stage compressor......make sure the CFM is at a usable PSI too.....ie...6cfm @ 60psi not 7 cfm at 90PSI....
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Old 02-24-2004, 04:31 PM   #12
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Craftsman as a brand are built extremely well and they offer a lifetime warranty on most products. I always look at craftsman first when shopping for tools. I don't have any Husky tools so I can't speak about their quality/reliability.
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Old 02-24-2004, 05:55 PM   #13
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I have a 30 gallon oilless Craftsman compressor...I forget the CFM rating but it is absolutely inadequate for paint spraying and air grinding. It runs constantly and still can't keep up with my air grinder. I think these type of compressors are OK for light duty stuff but not if you plan to use it alot.

On a side note, I just replaced my fried Campbell-Hausfeld die grinder with a Husky from Home Depot. The Husky air grinder absolutely rocks, I used this with a wire wheel to remove all the seam sealer from my rally car. It has more power than you could need in a grinder, only problem is the air consumption mentioned above.

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edit- Also keep in mind that the Craftsman lifetime warranty usually only applies to hand tools/sockets. I believe that air compressors do not fall under this warranty.
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Old 02-24-2004, 07:02 PM   #14
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if your going to be using air tools i suggest buying the largest one you can afford. 100 gallons are nice....especiall if using impact guns and die grinders. low air = low power...
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And yet I am more inclined to Husky compressor. Although Craftman good, but I have two Husky compressor more than a year, and no problems I had with him didn't arise. Some positive emotions. A lot of useful information for themselves found on this site:

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I was looking at this one:

http://www.lowes.com/pd_221495-14989...1#BVRRWidgetID

Any thoughts on it... I don't think I have the space for a 100gallon tank honestly... This would be things of putting on and off teh car, suspsension..etc.

Nothing like what a shop would go through on a daily basis...

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Several Xmas/birthdays ago my dad bought me a small air compressor with a nail gun...perfectly adequate for, um, nail-gunning. I fell in love with air tools and bought a couple new tools.

However the compressor itself was useless for anything outside of an impact gun. The tank was small and compressor wasn't high flow so...you get the picture.

For Xmas this year dad got me a much improved Craftsman compressor...oiled...bigger tank...more HP...all around a more "useful" machine. But it still was not as powerful as I needed.

However the compressor does have 2 air outlets and I happened to have an older large tank laying around. I hooked up the larger tank and viola the extra air storage allows me to run tools well now.

Granted the compressor still isn't powerful enough to constant run tools for extended periods of time but with the very large capacity I can build enough air "charge" to do what I need to do. It's a half-ass solution and doesn't allow me to grind or paint for 10 minutes straight but it's a massive improvement over stock.
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I was looking at this one:

http://www.lowes.com/pd_221495-14989...1#BVRRWidgetID

Any thoughts on it... I don't think I have the space for a 100gallon tank honestly... This would be things of putting on and off teh car, suspsension..etc.

Nothing like what a shop would go through on a daily basis...

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I have this one: http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...atalogId=10053

Never met a tool I can't run off it. DA Sander, Impact guns, body saws..you name it. 3yr warranty from Husky and they have a pretty good warranty on these. It's not quiet but I don't really care.
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I have this one: http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...atalogId=10053

Never met a tool I can't run off it. DA Sander, Impact guns, body saws..you name it. 3yr warranty from Husky and they have a pretty good warranty on these. It's not quiet but I don't really care.
Awesome thanks!

I have a couple questions. When looking at air tools like impact guns and air rateches what size is the fitting on the bottom of the gun?

I see you can get 1/4" hose and 3/8" hose.. Then I see that amazon has 3/8" hose with 1/4" fittings on it?? Wouldn't you want 3/8 fittings on teh same diameter hose?

I am just confused one what size hose to get and fittings. I also see that fittings have letters like "M" what does all this mean?

My main use of the air compresssor is going to be for the car.. anything else is a plus but mainly impact gun and air ratchets..

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Go with a 3/8" Hose. This will give you the most air possible for all your tools. Get a Rubber hose and not a PVC. The PVC's suck and are impossible to wound up and put away. I got a 50ft Goodyear rubber hose for my Garage for like $20 on ebay. Check out this link for some info on fittings:

http://www.chpower.com/webapp/wcs/st...10051_10001_-1

The only air tool I spent serious money on was my Impact. All of my other air tools are Harbor Freight cheapies and have been great. Again I can't stress this enough...Spend some good money on your Impact. After going through 2 cheap ones I dropped about $50 on a Husky brand one and it has been a night and day difference. For tool snobs the $50 Husky is not much better than a Harbor Freight but I can't drop the funds for Snap On...I have a car to build.
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My main use of the air compresssor is going to be for the car.. anything else is a plus but mainly impact gun and air ratchets..

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Get the 60gal for whatever you decide. Go big or go home son.

Seriously, I bought my 60gal at the same time a friend bought the 30gal Kobalt youre looking at. With any kind of moderate impact gun/air ratchet work, his will run CONSTANTLY. Sure, the 60gal requires 220v, but mine pumps down 60gal in the time it takes his to pump down 30gal and has twice the SCFM at 90psi (and this counts).
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Old thread!

I have a 30 gal Kobalt from Lowe's. You can't go go wrong with a oil lubricated machine. They're much quieter and inherently more reliable than the Craftsman oil-free machines.
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Awsome so that's good to know about the fittings.

It's safe to say then that if the tool has a 1/4" male nipple that can be changed to a 3/8"

Very good then!

That's what I wasn't sure why a hose that is bigger would come witha smaller diameter connector... seems kinda stupid.

I will definitely get a 60gallon IF space permits... I was mainly looking at the 30gallon because it's not a huge foot print, ...lol

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