Where's the Spare?

Road Toad · 02-23-2004, 09:11 AM

Forgot to look both times I was at dealer. I assume it's a space-saver mioni-spare accessible though the bed, or it's under the bed acccessible from under the rear frame. What's the deal?

Also, is there any real difference between the five spoke and the six spoke wheels? I can't figure out which I like best - on a black Turbo...

Thanks, John

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BajaNut · 02-23-2004, 11:54 AM

When I got mine, they explained that the Half width spare, full height tire is part of the crumple zone and it is avaiable under the bed. Subaru is known for using the spare tire as part of the crumple zone. In the '80's the spare tires were normally on top of the engine and in a colosion the tire would go into the firewall and the engine would fall out of the entione compartment.

I got the 6 spoke alloy wheels becasue I got the premium package. I think that they look great on the black. I was planning on getting the Mystic Blue and I think that the gunmetal grey 5 spoke wheels look best on that, oh and I did get the Black Turbo as well.

Ben

hatake · 02-23-2004, 12:50 PM

On contrary, I got base Baja Turbo black, so gunmetal gray came with it. I actually like their lower profile looks (well, they don't shine). Brake dust is probably less visible, and I assume it is lighter than 6 (one less spoke) but that's my BS a$$essment. I think, though, Subaru forgot to paint the rear drum - it almost looks as if they painted the wheels while it is on the car. There is a spoke-shape unpainted area on my drum, rusted. It's like

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Road Toad · 02-23-2004, 02:01 PM

Thanks! I'm planning to remove the rack like you have done. Can I remove or install the end pieces and the crossbars easily? I want to carry them in the bed (getting a snuglid) and will figger a way to strap them to a bed wall or carry them in the cabin, and just put 'em on when I need 'em. Actually, since I'm also getting the bed net, I can probably roll 'em up in the net and hang 'em on a bed side.

John

hatake · 02-23-2004, 02:07 PM

It's the same pieces as Forrester, so end pieces clumps to the railing with a bolt - super easy application compared to old Subarus. As crossbar is far shorter than the bed withds, fitting these bars may prove difficult, though. Removing it reduced wind noise significantly.

SouthShoreBaja · 02-23-2004, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Road Toad
Actually, since I'm also getting the bed net, I can probably roll 'em up in the net and hang 'em on a bed side.
John

Do you mean the Subaru OEM($30) cargo net, John? If so, i'd recommend just getting a multipack of bungees from a local store.

I just keep a bungee multipak and blue tarp at hand anytime i need to secure something down in the bed.

Road Toad · 02-24-2004, 10:06 AM

I haven't actually seen the bed cargo net, but I'm assuming it's optimized (in size and shape) to hold things in the bed. I already have a bunch of bungees, but they're all about 18-24" long, not long enough to grab onto both bedwalls. I'll probably wait until I test-drive both the 5MT and 4AT they're making up in the factory for me, and then check out the bed cargo net. At $26 (I'm paying invoice for ALL options, including the AT if I get it) it might be worth it. For once, I have the luxury of outfitting a car exactly as I want without regard to cost! Yeah, I'm a lucky guy!

Hatake: with the auto shift can you really hold it in first to 6800? I've never tried a sport shift before, and if I can actually hold the tranny in gear till exactly when I want to shift, then I may be able to get 95% of the accelleration of the 5MT. Whadaya think? As I posted earlier, I've already got sports car, so the Turbo doesn't have to do dual duty...but, with the Turbo, when I want to pass at 80 can I drop into 3rd and get some kick?

John

BajaNut · 02-24-2004, 11:12 AM

Yes you can hold it up to 6800rpm in 1st with the sport shift. I have knoticed that I can get all the benifits that I was getting in my old 5mt as I do in my Baja T 4mt w/ sport shift. I have knoticed that sometimes if you are at hight RPM's it won't let you down shift, but it will let you up shift just fine. I am no led foot so I never took full advantage of the 5mt so the sportshift is not going to get put to the full test with me. but all I can say is, dam the car is fast. I am afrade to floor it because it is so responsive and fast.

Ben

Road Toad · 02-24-2004, 11:59 AM

That is great news! I'm startin' to get psyched!

Thanks

John

SouthShoreBaja · 02-24-2004, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Road Toad
I haven't actually seen the bed cargo net, but I'm assuming it's optimized (in size and shape) to hold things in the bed.

I bought it last spring thinking it would be worth it and found out the hard way. Yeah its only $30, or $26 in your case, but since mine has sat in my garage since and i don't foresee a case where it would be useful i just thought i'd pass on the tip.

Yes it does stretch to all bed hooks, but as far as what you can secure under it there's very little. I tried to use it for 5+ office-style storage boxes and the boxes were too high and i could only secure 2 of the hooks.

braveit1 · 02-27-2004, 02:07 PM

I got the bet net packaged with my Baja and can also say, it's useless. Unless you use bungees with it. Anything over a foot high won't fit under it. The cables don't streach very much at all. I have a few bungee rings I used with it once. I think I'm going to get the Snuglid in Mach when I travel to Tampa.

Road Toad · 02-27-2004, 02:12 PM

Guess I won't get the Bed Net then. Why Tampa? Call them at 1-866-768-4543 and order it. $949 plus $150 shipping from St. Louis. Remote entry is an extra $199 - I don't see the utility of remote control myself.

John

SouthShoreBaja · 02-27-2004, 04:25 PM

Its for when you're being chased and have to grab your shotgun out of the bed REALLY quickly.

braveit1 · 03-07-2004, 09:19 AM

There is a dealer out in Tampa and I really don't want to have to deal with shipping. I can inspect it on the spot and if there is something wrong just go with another. Someone else here ordered one and the transit company damaged it so he had to file a claim. I don't want to have to deal with that.

Road Toad · 03-08-2004, 08:25 AM

I got the impression that you couldn't get them from a local dealer, only shipped from St. Louis. How much are they at a local dealer? Or mebbe you order it though a local dealer and the dealer pays the freight (and mebbe tacks on some margin to the freight and then sells it to you?

02-23-2004, 09:11 AM	#1
Road Toad Scooby Newbie Member#: 49777 Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: NoVa Vehicle: 04 Turbo Blk/Blk 01 BMW M Coupe Blk/Blk	Where's the Spare? Forgot to look both times I was at dealer. I assume it's a space-saver mioni-spare accessible though the bed, or it's under the bed acccessible from under the rear frame. What's the deal? Also, is there any real difference between the five spoke and the six spoke wheels? I can't figure out which I like best - on a black Turbo... Thanks, John * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

02-23-2004, 11:54 AM	#2
BajaNut Scooby Specialist Member#: 36905 Join Date: May 2003 Chapter/Region: BAIC Location: Boulder Creek/Santa Cruz, CA Vehicle: 2006 Legacy GT Slvr leggtnut on lgt.com	When I got mine, they explained that the Half width spare, full height tire is part of the crumple zone and it is avaiable under the bed. Subaru is known for using the spare tire as part of the crumple zone. In the '80's the spare tires were normally on top of the engine and in a colosion the tire would go into the firewall and the engine would fall out of the entione compartment. I got the 6 spoke alloy wheels becasue I got the premium package. I think that they look great on the black. I was planning on getting the Mystic Blue and I think that the gunmetal grey 5 spoke wheels look best on that, oh and I did get the Black Turbo as well. Ben Last edited by BajaNut; 02-23-2004 at 12:28 PM.

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02-23-2004, 12:50 PM	#3
hatake Scooby Newbie Member#: 34811 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Denver Vehicle: 04 Baja T Black	On contrary, I got base Baja Turbo black, so gunmetal gray came with it. I actually like their lower profile looks (well, they don't shine). Brake dust is probably less visible, and I assume it is lighter than 6 (one less spoke) but that's my BS a$$essment. I think, though, Subaru forgot to paint the rear drum - it almost looks as if they painted the wheels while it is on the car. There is a spoke-shape unpainted area on my drum, rusted. It's like For reference, look here: http://www.cardomain.com/id/hatake

02-23-2004, 02:01 PM	#4
Road Toad Scooby Newbie Member#: 49777 Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: NoVa Vehicle: 04 Turbo Blk/Blk 01 BMW M Coupe Blk/Blk	Thanks! I'm planning to remove the rack like you have done. Can I remove or install the end pieces and the crossbars easily? I want to carry them in the bed (getting a snuglid) and will figger a way to strap them to a bed wall or carry them in the cabin, and just put 'em on when I need 'em. Actually, since I'm also getting the bed net, I can probably roll 'em up in the net and hang 'em on a bed side. John

02-23-2004, 02:07 PM	#5
hatake Scooby Newbie Member#: 34811 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Denver Vehicle: 04 Baja T Black	It's the same pieces as Forrester, so end pieces clumps to the railing with a bolt - super easy application compared to old Subarus. As crossbar is far shorter than the bed withds, fitting these bars may prove difficult, though. Removing it reduced wind noise significantly.

02-24-2004, 10:06 AM	#7
Road Toad Scooby Newbie Member#: 49777 Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: NoVa Vehicle: 04 Turbo Blk/Blk 01 BMW M Coupe Blk/Blk	I haven't actually seen the bed cargo net, but I'm assuming it's optimized (in size and shape) to hold things in the bed. I already have a bunch of bungees, but they're all about 18-24" long, not long enough to grab onto both bedwalls. I'll probably wait until I test-drive both the 5MT and 4AT they're making up in the factory for me, and then check out the bed cargo net. At $26 (I'm paying invoice for ALL options, including the AT if I get it) it might be worth it. For once, I have the luxury of outfitting a car exactly as I want without regard to cost! Yeah, I'm a lucky guy! Hatake: with the auto shift can you really hold it in first to 6800? I've never tried a sport shift before, and if I can actually hold the tranny in gear till exactly when I want to shift, then I may be able to get 95% of the accelleration of the 5MT. Whadaya think? As I posted earlier, I've already got sports car, so the Turbo doesn't have to do dual duty...but, with the Turbo, when I want to pass at 80 can I drop into 3rd and get some kick? John

02-24-2004, 11:12 AM	#8
BajaNut Scooby Specialist Member#: 36905 Join Date: May 2003 Chapter/Region: BAIC Location: Boulder Creek/Santa Cruz, CA Vehicle: 2006 Legacy GT Slvr leggtnut on lgt.com	Yes you can hold it up to 6800rpm in 1st with the sport shift. I have knoticed that I can get all the benifits that I was getting in my old 5mt as I do in my Baja T 4mt w/ sport shift. I have knoticed that sometimes if you are at hight RPM's it won't let you down shift, but it will let you up shift just fine. I am no led foot so I never took full advantage of the 5mt so the sportshift is not going to get put to the full test with me. but all I can say is, dam the car is fast. I am afrade to floor it because it is so responsive and fast. Ben

02-24-2004, 11:59 AM	#9
Road Toad Scooby Newbie Member#: 49777 Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: NoVa Vehicle: 04 Turbo Blk/Blk 01 BMW M Coupe Blk/Blk	That is great news! I'm startin' to get psyched! Thanks John

02-27-2004, 02:07 PM	#11
braveit1 Scooby Newbie Member#: 44810 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Florida Vehicle: 2003 Baja w/Snuglid Black & Silver	I got the bet net packaged with my Baja and can also say, it's useless. Unless you use bungees with it. Anything over a foot high won't fit under it. The cables don't streach very much at all. I have a few bungee rings I used with it once. I think I'm going to get the Snuglid in Mach when I travel to Tampa.

02-27-2004, 02:12 PM	#12
Road Toad Scooby Newbie Member#: 49777 Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: NoVa Vehicle: 04 Turbo Blk/Blk 01 BMW M Coupe Blk/Blk	Guess I won't get the Bed Net then. Why Tampa? Call them at 1-866-768-4543 and order it. $949 plus $150 shipping from St. Louis. Remote entry is an extra $199 - I don't see the utility of remote control myself. John

02-27-2004, 04:25 PM	#13
SouthShoreBaja Scooby Newbie Member#: 50658 Join Date: Dec 2003 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: out in left field Vehicle: 2006 2.5RS Aspen White	Its for when you're being chased and have to grab your shotgun out of the bed REALLY quickly.

03-07-2004, 09:19 AM	#14
braveit1 Scooby Newbie Member#: 44810 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Florida Vehicle: 2003 Baja w/Snuglid Black & Silver	There is a dealer out in Tampa and I really don't want to have to deal with shipping. I can inspect it on the spot and if there is something wrong just go with another. Someone else here ordered one and the transit company damaged it so he had to file a claim. I don't want to have to deal with that.

03-08-2004, 08:25 AM	#15
Road Toad Scooby Newbie Member#: 49777 Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: NoVa Vehicle: 04 Turbo Blk/Blk 01 BMW M Coupe Blk/Blk	I got the impression that you couldn't get them from a local dealer, only shipped from St. Louis. How much are they at a local dealer? Or mebbe you order it though a local dealer and the dealer pays the freight (and mebbe tacks on some margin to the freight and then sells it to you?