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Old 06-01-2000, 07:33 AM   #1
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Question OT: Negotiating the price of a Type R?

Do I have any hope of paying less than sticker? I hate the fact that it's "rare", it makes me feel like they don't need to work with me on the price at all. Anyone have any Type R buying advice? According to Carpoint, dealer invoice is somewhere around $22k and sticker is $24,800.

I don't think I need to explain why I'm asking this here, but I think I'd get better advice from this group than from any other.

And no, I'm not selling my RS. This is for the wife... who is going to run it in GSL not GS... whew!
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Old 06-01-2000, 07:43 AM   #2
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If there's a demand where you live, the price will be difficult to negotiate. That's all I can tell you.

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Old 06-01-2000, 07:47 AM   #3
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The only way to tell will be to call all of the dealers within a reasonable distance from you and tell them you want to buy, you'll know in a hurry if there is room to bring the price down.
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Old 06-01-2000, 07:47 AM   #4
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I would suggest you look at purchasing the car through www.carorder.com. They'll most likely give you the best price. They're a pain to go through though. Don't expect to get the car anytime soon if you use them.

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Old 06-01-2000, 07:51 AM   #5
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Ok, let me fill in some details. I submitted the car through Carpoint. So they know that I know about all the dealerships in the state. There's only 4 Acura dealers in the state. 3 are close.

I put some money down a couple months ago, the car arrived yesterday. Nothing about price has been mentioned at this point. They know I used the internet, so I'm sure they know I know what their price is.

Snoopy, of course demand is high. This is a Type R we're talking about. Low supply/high demand... not a good buyers market.

(Snoopy, not officially married, but close enough... )
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Old 06-01-2000, 07:55 AM   #6
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Actually, I'm surprised anyone knows about the Type R, really. That's why I was wondering what the demand was like in Co. Sorta like the demand for Subies in Canada and New England is higher compared to...say, Texas. And since you're up in the mountains, I would have thought SUVs and AWD would be in higher demand as opposed to a souped up fwd car.
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Old 06-01-2000, 09:32 AM   #7
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I think Honduh's has limited the production of that car to 5000 for the entire country. Going to be hard to negotiate for a better price, but where there's a will, there's a way.
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Old 06-01-2000, 09:43 AM   #8
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ask this question over at www.h-a.org
we can help you out there. one thing is for sure, you will not get a 2000 model for less than sticker $24500
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Old 06-01-2000, 09:44 AM   #9
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5000?? I thought it was more like 750 for the 2000 models.

Thanks monkey, I'll check it out!

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Old 06-01-2000, 10:20 AM   #10
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Good luck. Over here in Seattle they are going for $1500 over MSRP minimum.

The online car dealers even have a second sticker (I've checked most of them) if they can get one right now.

Go here: www.honda-tech.com and look in the Classifieds because there is someone in California selling a 2000 with about 2000mi on it for $23,500 -- it's yellow.

Production is limited to around 1200 this year I think. It'll be the largest year, but also the last, and the only year these two colours (yellow and black) are available.

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Old 06-01-2000, 10:27 AM   #11
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Unless they changed the sticker from yesterday, it's marked at $24,800. That seems to be the price that most people are paying.

I'll have to work them on the trade-in value. Shouldn't be too hard. Jeeps are an easy sale in Colorado...
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Old 06-01-2000, 10:47 AM   #12
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I don't know about the demand out where you are, seems that demand would be low for that kind of car in that area, though I hear some of the roads are nice... so maybe not...

Still, I wouldn't expect that the price will be lenient very much, if at all. I'm Moderator of the S2000 Forum over at www.Honda-Acura.net, which has been around quite a long time, and the folks on the Integra Type-R board seem to be quite knowledgeable... maybe even a chance that one of the owners there lives near you!

On that note, here's a little eye candy...
a yellow ITR belonging to Honda-Acura.net
member "Big_Phat-R" ...



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Old 06-01-2000, 11:57 AM   #13
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El Kabong: well if you can get it for MSRP, be happy and take the offer. I mean, go in there and tell them you want it for less and head for the door when they say no, just to see what they do, but the bottom line is that MSRP is a good price for these cars and if you really CAN'T beat them down, you can at least be satisfied that you didn't pay the $27,000 - $29,000 that some people around here did.

[edit] Siper: I really think that mild Acura bodykit is nice looking; most people probably wouldn't notice it. Too bad it's so expensive. Some of my friends live down the street from where that picture was taken

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Old 06-01-2000, 03:00 PM   #14
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There's nothing wrong at all with offering a price over invoice, you're offering to pay for the car plus give the dealer that much extra. If a dealer ever showed me the door they'd be hearing from the Better Business Bureau.

Now, offering a dealer a price and then negotiating up from there, that's acceptable.

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Old 06-02-2000, 12:01 AM   #15
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I thought you had to race Teg TypeR's in CSP because of the non-viscous factory LSD?

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Old 06-02-2000, 12:10 AM   #16
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Unless you have the money, dont pay over sticker for the car.. the thing will not be worth what you owe on it come next year if you finance.. Even sticker will be pushing your luck.. when I used to sell cars, if we held sticker on anything other than a high demand sports car we laughed to ourselves after they left becasue we "raped them on the price and they will be buried in it until it is payed off." Unfortunately when the civic si came out in 1999 we were getting $1000 over sticker and not taking anything less.. people would come in and and make us an offer at 200 over invoice or something rediculous like that (all cocky b/c they had been on the "internet") Basically we showed these people the door and sold it to someone who was willing to pay for it.. I sold two or more S200's for $7500 over sticker (thats a $2350 commission on one car for those who dont know.. heheh). Bottom line is, make them a reasonable offer but dont get upset if they tell you nicely to get the hell out

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Old 06-02-2000, 07:55 PM   #17
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Old 06-02-2000, 08:08 PM   #18
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"Things will get ugly once it is broken in" because your wife drives your RS faster than you do!

:-)

Similar to your Type-R and RS being parked next to each other in the garage, I have a Mac iBook parked next to my PIII Winbook on my desk. Not as much fun though, I'm jealous as hell...

PS: Dropped my PIII laptop down the steps of the garage yesterday, and it is very unhappy about that. So, I am using my iBook for a bit until the PIII gets back from Winbook. Any suggestions for html text editor that works as well as "notepad" from win98 - my current html editor? SimpleText has funny characters when I open a web page.

Oh Oh Oh! I'll just use notepad from win 95 running in my Windows emulator on the iBook! Yeah, that's the ticket!
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Old 06-03-2000, 12:00 AM   #19
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Got the car last night. Paid sticker, got a decent but not great amount for the trade-in on the Jeep... all is well and now I have an Integra Type R parked next to my Impreza in the garage... things will get ugly once that car is broken in... oh yes...
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