Welcome to the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club Wednesday April 16, 2014
Home Forums WikiNASIOC Products Store Modifications Upgrade Garage
NASIOC
Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences Home Registration is free! Visit the NASIOC Store NASIOC Rules Search Find other members Frequently Asked Questions Calendar Archive NASIOC Upgrade Garage Logout
Go Back   NASIOC > NASIOC Archives > NASIOC Archives > General Forum Archive

Welcome to NASIOC - The world's largest online community for Subaru enthusiasts!
Welcome to the NASIOC.com Subaru forum.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, free of charge, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-24-2000, 10:52 PM   #1
ITRMike
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 3034
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: San Jose, CA, USA
Post Subaru Impreza Vs. Acura Integra Type R

Which do you think would win on the track and on a drag? Anybody have specs on these two cars to compare? Any Help Would be appreciated. Thanx
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
ITRMike is offline  
Old 11-24-2000, 10:57 PM   #2
Imprezer
Dynamic Uno
 
Member#: 1
Join Date: Jun 1999
Chapter/Region: BAIC
Location: Alameda, CA
Vehicle:
2011 Impreza WRX STi
Black

Post

Stock vs Stock:

Drag -- ITR wins hands down
Track -- ITR probably wins
Auto-x -- Impreza probably wins

Turbo Impreza vs. NA Type R:

Impreza wins all

Turbo Impreza vs. Turbo Type R

Close call.
Imprezer is offline  
Old 11-24-2000, 11:02 PM   #3
Keith
NASIOC Supporter
 
Member#: 191
Join Date: Aug 1999
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: Brooklyn
Vehicle:
2012 J train
Brown

Post

I agree with Alex, the only thing that really depends at the auto-x though, is the driver. That and I think our car would need a sway bar also, damn thing understeers so much. but that is easily correct with about 80-150 bux.
Stock for stock though, Itr is a nice car
Keith
Keith is offline  
Old 11-24-2000, 11:24 PM   #4
Faraz
What?...
Do they speak English in What?

Moderator
 
Member#: 1459
Join Date: May 2000
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Allentown
Vehicle:
2008 WRX 5door MT
WR Blue

Post

auto-x stock v. stock ITR wins barely
Faraz is offline  
Old 11-24-2000, 11:36 PM   #5
555 WRC
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 810
Join Date: Jan 2000
Question

If you are in market for a new car, Which one would you buy stock Impreza RS or stock Integra Type-R ??(no plan for the engine mod)

Any reasons..


555 WRC is offline  
Old 11-25-2000, 12:23 AM   #6
555 WRC
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 810
Join Date: Jan 2000
Post

Any idea guys.......
555 WRC is offline  
Old 11-25-2000, 12:29 AM   #7
Kostamojen
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 2272
Join Date: Sep 2000
Chapter/Region: BAIC
Location: haha XD
Vehicle:
2013 Subaru 599 :P
Galaxy Blue Sexy

Post

I'd get an RS, for the AWD... and its a HECK of alot cheaper than a Type-R.

Plus I like the RS in every way especially looks and handling, and the one thing I dont care about is super-fast 0-60 times :P
Kostamojen is offline  
Old 11-25-2000, 12:53 AM   #8
subystyle
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 2712
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: St. Helens, Oregon SPEC , MAPEC
Vehicle:
2000 Impreza 2.5RS
Sedona Red Pearl

Lightbulb

Bone stock they are a close call.
But with the ITR it's hard to improve on what Honda has already done. I've seen some testing where mods have actually hurt the performance of the ITR. But the RS is a completely different story, it's a good place to build from. With a little work and money the RS will easily spank the pants off the ITR. Just my $0.02 Cya, Gary
subystyle is offline  
Old 11-25-2000, 12:58 AM   #9
10th Warrior
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 2230
Join Date: Aug 2000
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Toronto these days
Vehicle:
2000 2.5RS
Silverthorn, PGT #671

Post

perhaps you guys should look at national results for GS. close call my a$$! the ITR has consistently dominated GS for the last few years which is why it is being reclassed. now auto-x in the rain is another story
10th Warrior is offline  
Old 11-25-2000, 01:05 AM   #10
AKGC8
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 1305
Join Date: Apr 2000
Chapter/Region: AKIC
Vehicle:
2000 Impreza

Post

Defidently the Type R over the RS. The Type R has the exclusiveness to it(there are only about 2500 total in the US). They are basically factory built race cars, and will beat the RS in any catagory on dry pavement. In autocross, the Type R is a national contender in the stock class, the RS is not. In road racing, the Type R dominates the Motarola Cup and other events like it(biggest competitor is BMW's with 6 cylinder engines). At the drag strip the 195hp 2600lb Type R defidently has the advantage.

If you would like to know exactly what differences ther are between the Type R and GSR(and there are a lot of them) read this page: http://www.dsc.on.ca/int3gra/typer.htm

On the other hand, the WRX vs Type R is going to be the reverse case. The WRX will beat the Type R in any catagory on any surface slick or dry. The WRX should be in a higher SCCA class though so they won't technically be in competition with each other besides at the local stoplight.

Edit: One more thing I wanted to mention. The Type R, while more capable than the RS, does require more skill to drive fast. Because of its high redline and relatively limited power band, it requires a good driver to get the most out of it. Because of that its very possible that at your local autocross, roadcourse, or even drag strip if you're lucky, you can beat a type r. Thats not because the RS is a faster car, its just because many drivers aren't talented enough to extract the full performance of the Type R.

[This message has been edited by Eby (edited November 25, 2000).]
AKGC8 is offline  
Old 11-25-2000, 06:33 AM   #11
Gambit
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 102
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: The meeting place
Post

That's what I thot. I jsut can't imagine how a stock RS can keep up with an ITR in autoX! Those ITRs are terror in autoX. and I've yet to see an N/A RS even got a close time to an ITR! Save for Ver. III's RS which he did spanked a modified ITR. But his ain't N/A. So no way in heck if the ITR driver even an average guy will spank the RS in autoX. Unless....those ITR guys you encounter are realy white Integra base models with type R stickers.
Gambit is offline  
Old 11-25-2000, 07:55 AM   #12
HamFist
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 2112
Join Date: Aug 2000
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Vehicle:
2000 Impreza 2.5RS
BRP

Post

This has got to be the second oldest argument next to "n/a vs. turbo" . I chose subaru partially because of it's uniqueness. Got Boxers? hehehehehe.
Gary
HamFist is offline  
Old 11-25-2000, 11:21 AM   #13
ASNG
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 681
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Square One
Post

OK, I am not going to go into details about the two, cause that would open a can of worms.

Anyways, I own both!
I have a 00 RS, my second one, and I recently got a 00 ITR. So I can speak from experience when I say that preference will come down to a personal choice. The two cars are quite different and they compare like apples and grapefruits.

If you want no nonsense performance, the ITR is a better choice! This is the first car that I could drive out of the showroom and not have to think right away about what mods I will have to do!!
Although it is not for everyone!! Raw performance comes at a price of a few rough edges, like no sound detoning or the need for a 6th gear, but like I said, if performance is your thing, you won't care!!
If all around "comfort" during a regular commute is your thing, with a few spirited moments, the RS will do quite well. Not to mention if you get a lot of snow and/or really rough or crappy roads the RS is a much better choice.

ASNG



[This message has been edited by ASNG (edited November 25, 2000).]
ASNG is offline  
Old 11-25-2000, 01:06 PM   #14
rpone605
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 1669
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
Vehicle:
2004 WRX Sport Wagon
Silver

Post

if your comparing autocross you have to use the same drivers.
rpone605 is offline  
Old 11-25-2000, 02:41 PM   #15
ConeMasher
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 2135
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Chicagoland, IL, USA
Vehicle:
2002 WRX
Silver

Post

The ITR and the RS are classed in the same SCCA Solo II autocross class... G-Stock.

The ITR is currently dominating G-Stock, but the AWD DSM twins are still giving chase(Eclipse GSX, Talon Tsi AWD). Some well driven Bimmers (and an incredibly driven Prelude) are up there too. The ITRs finished 3 of the top 5 in the 1999 National Championships.

The top RS finished 25th.

Now, the RS does great in STS (national champ!), but then again, it doesn't run against the ITR or the DSMs in that class. And there is also the possibility that as an AWD car, the RS will be kicked out of that class in the future (if you can't run an LSD on your FWD car in that class, why could you run an AWD multi-differential RS?).

-- ConeMasher
ConeMasher is offline  
Old 11-25-2000, 02:43 PM   #16
Basshead
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 112
Join Date: Jul 1999
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: Snohomish, WA
Vehicle:
2011 Jetta TDI
Black

Post

type-r exclusivity? Last time i checked my 1999 RS was one out of 1500 made for 1999 and one of 600 that were rally blue...
Basshead is offline  
Old 11-25-2000, 02:50 PM   #17
Gambit
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 102
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: The meeting place
Post

Basshead, I think there's more RS in 99 than 1500. I emailed SOA once and RS accounts for at least 5000 of the total 18,000 for that year.
Gambit is offline  
Old 11-25-2000, 04:06 PM   #18
10th Warrior
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 2230
Join Date: Aug 2000
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Toronto these days
Vehicle:
2000 2.5RS
Silverthorn, PGT #671

Post

integras do go to STS. but with a more tarmac based suspension on it, the RS does much better.

and as far as holding drivers constant goes, that is what national results are for. the top contenders there are all good drivers and have their cars set up well. thats as close as you'll get.
10th Warrior is offline  
Old 11-25-2000, 05:01 PM   #19
Strepto
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 252
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: San Antonio, TX
Vehicle:
2001 Arctic White
Camaro SS #1800

Post

the Type-R is not allowed in ST because of it's LSD. Every other Integra can run in ST.
Strepto is offline  
Old 11-25-2000, 05:05 PM   #20
Rexman
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 2978
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Centreville, VA, USA
Vehicle:
1986 Civic Si
White STS monster

Talking

yeah, but for the price of an RS, you can buy a 1988-1991 Honda CRX Si.

car: $4000
Engine: $3500 (motor swap. d-mod. =(. )
Suspension: $2000
seats/interior: $2000
tires: $2000

total: $13500.

hehehee.
Rexman is offline  
Old 11-25-2000, 05:08 PM   #21
Overtime
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 1346
Join Date: Apr 2000
Post

I can vouch for that 600 number, though. Rally blue 99s are out of a limited run of 600.
Overtime is offline  
Old 11-25-2000, 06:31 PM   #22
matt7184
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 1797
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Miramar/Gainesville, FL
Vehicle:
2003 MazdaSpeed
Protege

Post

I have only seen 2 RS's on the street my whole life. I see ITRs everyday.
matt7184 is offline  
Old 11-25-2000, 07:55 PM   #23
xMetal
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 1977
Join Date: Jul 2000
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Medina, OH
Vehicle:
2002 BMW M3
Silver

Talking

Well I see at least 3 RS's everyday and have seen 1 ITR in my whole life.

So there!

(And you can't seriously say that the RS is rarer than the ITR. You just can't. Maybe in a particular area there are more of one than the other, but if you just look at production numbers it's pretty apparent that there are more RS's being produced per year than the grand total of ITR's for all years.)

xMetal is offline  
Old 11-25-2000, 08:02 PM   #24
Kewjoe
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 3036
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Toronto, Canada
Post

I wish there were more 2.5RS's around.. ive only seen like 5.. and ive seen like 50 ITR's around. Not that im complaining i like ITR's too.
Kewjoe is offline  
Old 11-25-2000, 08:14 PM   #25
T-WRX
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 2468
Join Date: Sep 2000
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: JAX
Vehicle:
08 RS4
05 STi

Post

Matt - That may have to do with where you live. An ITR is more appealing as a daily driver when you never have to deal with the frozen stuff.
T-WRX is offline  
 

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Inside Line: 1998 Acura Integra Type R vs. 2010 Honda Civic Si USCTrojan4JC Non-Subaru News & Rumors 108 01-27-2011 05:04 PM
FS: SoCal 2000 Phoenix Yellow Acura Integra Type R mokaone Private Vehicle 'For Sale' Classifieds 3 04-07-2007 03:13 PM
FS: 2000 Acura Integra Type R tawheed Private Vehicle 'For Sale' Classifieds 19 03-27-2007 05:03 PM
For Sale : Acura Integra Type R *Washington* subaru-noob Private Vehicle 'For Sale' Classifieds 8 12-28-2004 07:43 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:22 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2014 Axivo Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2014, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc.