Can anyone give me strategy and advice on Texas Holdum Poker?

HD-sw20 · 03-02-2004, 04:02 PM

Well The question is can anyone give me any strategic advice on how to play texas holdum poker? I've played a few games but can grasp the concept. I search the NET but every hit is some online casino gambling crap. I need to imprez the other players.

thanks in advance

sorbee711 · 03-02-2004, 04:06 PM

Its like most other poker games. Bluffing is big. Catching a hand is big. Slowplaying a good hand, but not playing it too slow. Are you a tight player that will only stay in with a good hand? A reckless player who will bet wildly with nothing? A lot of the game is bluffing and reading other people to determine if they are bluffing.

HD-sw20 · 03-02-2004, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sorbee711
Its like most other poker games. Bluffing is big. Catching a hand is big. Slowplaying a good hand, but not playing it too slow. Are you a tight player that will only stay in with a good hand? A reckless player who will bet wildly with nothing? A lot of the game is bluffing and reading other people to determine if they are bluffing.

IS there any clear cut strategy or is all luck and bluffing?

ColinL · 03-02-2004, 04:10 PM

well, half of it is just knowing your odds in poker. know them well and play the odds most of the time.

the rest is reads from the community and your opponent. reading opponents is no different than any other card game. reading face-up cards is a bit different; it's easier to bluff and be bluffed by numerically 'easy' hands. use this and guard against it. (example: if there are 4 cards of one suit showing in community someone could have a flush rather easily. and even if you don't, you could believably bluff like you do.)

bluffing is much harder in any game with many players because odds are someone who stays in is just going to have a good hand.

Bonzo · 03-02-2004, 04:10 PM

bet if u have a good hand and fold when u don't.

It's that simple.

dcrawford · 03-02-2004, 04:10 PM

From what I've learned...this is the basics...

You need to know when to hold 'em, know when fold 'em...know when to walk away...and know when to run.

Or so I hear.

andywrx · 03-02-2004, 04:12 PM

Go to a local bookstore - there should be plenty of books on
playing Hold 'em. Doyle Brunson's Super System is supposed
to be a good one.

sct · 03-02-2004, 04:12 PM

As a general rule, only play hands that you look at your down cards and go "oh wow". If you go "mmmmaybe", don't play them.

The fewer the players, the relative strength of lower hands improves.

Do some searches for top texas hold'em hands to see how things are ranked.

And the best way to get good is to play- a lot. I play about one tourney a week and am a "decent" player. I would get rocked in a real game.

fliz · 03-02-2004, 04:14 PM

It's not the cards...you have to play the man.

Go watch Rounders

driggity · 03-02-2004, 04:14 PM

Don't eat Oreos while playing.

DISCOPOPE · 03-02-2004, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HD-sw20
Well The question is can anyone give me any strategic advice on how to play texas holdum poker? I've played a few games but can grasp the concept. I search the NET but every hit is some online casino gambling crap. I need to imprez the other players.

thanks in advance

throw money at the pot like a mad man.
take a coupple hands right to the end and let people call your bluff... have a fake facial que for when you bluff.

when you get a jesus hand, hit them with the bluff que, and throw $$ at it like a groom in a titty bar...

make them think you are an easy read..

Hamsterstyle · 03-02-2004, 04:16 PM

Well, another question is are you looking to play online, or are you playing live with people? Hold 'em is different because depeding on whether you're playing with blinds, and a limited bet amount, it becomes pretty difficult to bluff. High limit or no limit, you usually have to bluff to really win big.

Oh and fyi: Hold'em.

fliz · 03-02-2004, 04:18 PM

Know the odds.

I've only played once. It sucks to find out you were bluffing when you thought you had a hand.

DISCOPOPE · 03-02-2004, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fliz
Know the odds.

I've only played once. It sucks to find out you were bluffing when you thought you had a hand.

nothing is as embarassing as betting into a dead hand...

wrpmission · 03-02-2004, 04:20 PM

Buy a book by david Sklansky it will tell you everything you need

cwb124 · 03-02-2004, 04:21 PM

Go to www.twoplustwo.com

Fantastic poker site with forums where you can ask questions and not get BS answers, rather get sound advice from skilled players. I frequent the site.

CB

CirrusWRX · 03-02-2004, 04:22 PM

One word: Cheat.

nothing like a hand of 7 queens to show em who's boss

HD-sw20 · 03-02-2004, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hamsterstyle
Well, another question is are you looking to play online, or are you playing live with people? Hold 'em is different because depeding on whether you're playing with blinds, and a limited bet amount, it becomes pretty difficult to bluff. High limit or no limit, you usually have to bluff to really win big.

No i will be playing with a group of friends and we play with small and large blind. SO i guess bluffing is a big thing then. Gotta practice bluffing.

Hamsterstyle · 03-02-2004, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HD-sw20
No i will be playing with a group of friends and we play with small and large blind. SO i guess bluffing is a big thing then. Gotta practice bluffing.

Well take everyone's advice and do some research if you're really interested. The key to a bluff generally has nothing to do with what you have, or being random about it. It's paying attention to what the other players are doing, what they may be going for, and allowing them to "tell" you what they have. It's also judging the likeyhood of them geniunally having a good hand. For instance, you probably don't want to bluff if there's four of the same suit after the river...the fifth card. The likelyhood is that someone probably does have that fifth heart or whatever. But that being said, if these guys know what they're doing, they can trick you into bluffing.

My advice is to go and have fun, learn what you can, and don't get in too deep. Play conservative at first and learn. You can read up on it all you want, but you're gonna have to get a little experience to really be any good. Good luck.

ColinL · 03-02-2004, 04:32 PM

learn the hands and the odds first.

pjdwrx · 03-02-2004, 04:34 PM

Just forget about it now. You'll never make it on the Travel Channel.

Local bookstores or Amazon.com, at least for some of the reader reviews.

sorbee711 · 03-02-2004, 04:54 PM

And as I found out a week ago... having a straight is wonderful, until someone has a higher straight...

So be careful with having a strong hand, it may not be strong enough. Someone may try fast playing it with big bets and scare you off when they had crap. Or they may stick in there and you think they have some decent hand but you are reeling them in, when in fact they are slow playing and drop a full house on you.

imprezton · 03-02-2004, 05:00 PM

I've played ALOT of Hold-Em. Studied the starting hand strategies and all.

One piece of advice reigns above all others:

Be disciplined. Know your mathematical chances for making a given hand, and don't think for a moment that the Poker Gods will be on your side.

Some others:

1. Get to know your opponents. If you have a hell-bent gambler on your table, don't try to bluff him. If you have a super-conservative player, bluff him, but not often enough to be predictable.

2. "Tells" are overplayed in both dramatization of poker and the color commentary of the now-popular cable poker tournaments. Know what a tell is, and recognize it if you can, but don't lay your bank on it. Also, be willing to set up a poker n00b with a false tell, to burn him with it at the best possible moment.

3. Just because you won the last pot doesn't pre-destine you to win the next one. You shouldn't make stupid calls when you're the chip leader any more than you would with your last chips. Treat each hand as a stand-alone event, and play that hand by your strategy. When it's over, win or lose, forget it and play the next hand.

andywrx · 03-02-2004, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by imprezton
...
Be disciplined. Know your mathematical chances for making a given hand, and don't think for a moment that the Poker Gods will be on your side.
...

What's an easy way to do this? When I watch the shows, the
guys go "75% chance here to win..." when I'm still thinking
about how many Aces are left in the deck.
I'm decent at math, but there must be a cheat sheet/easy way
to tell? Or no?

DISCOPOPE · 03-02-2004, 05:06 PM

Quote:

3. Just because you won the last pot doesn't pre-destine you to win the next one. You shouldn't make stupid calls when you're the chip leader any more than you would with your last chips. Treat each hand as a stand-alone event, and play that hand by your strategy. When it's over, win or lose, forget it and play the next hand.

yep you will see even the best playes try to let the momentum carry a poor hand...

i makes no diffrence to the cards if you have $250k or $25bucks in chips.

03-02-2004, 04:02 PM	#1
HD-sw20 Gone But Not Forgotten Member#: 37056 Join Date: May 2003 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: 04 2.5 RS	Can anyone give me strategy and advice on Texas Holdum Poker? Well The question is can anyone give me any strategic advice on how to play texas holdum poker? I've played a few games but can grasp the concept. I search the NET but every hit is some online casino gambling crap. I need to imprez the other players. thanks in advance

03-02-2004, 04:34 PM	#21
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03-02-2004, 04:06 PM	#2
sorbee711 Scooby Specialist Member#: 14259 Join Date: Jan 2002 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Shrewsbury, MA Vehicle: OT, we're a-holes b/c we are bored at work	Its like most other poker games. Bluffing is big. Catching a hand is big. Slowplaying a good hand, but not playing it too slow. Are you a tight player that will only stay in with a good hand? A reckless player who will bet wildly with nothing? A lot of the game is bluffing and reading other people to determine if they are bluffing.

03-02-2004, 04:10 PM	#4
ColinL Scooby Guru Member#: 114 Join Date: Jul 1999 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Wichita, KS and Whoring, OT Vehicle: '03 Evo, Rice White '01 Erion CBR 929	well, half of it is just knowing your odds in poker. know them well and play the odds most of the time. the rest is reads from the community and your opponent. reading opponents is no different than any other card game. reading face-up cards is a bit different; it's easier to bluff and be bluffed by numerically 'easy' hands. use this and guard against it. (example: if there are 4 cards of one suit showing in community someone could have a flush rather easily. and even if you don't, you could believably bluff like you do.) bluffing is much harder in any game with many players because odds are someone who stays in is just going to have a good hand.

03-02-2004, 04:10 PM	#5
Bonzo Scooby Specialist Member#: 2307 Join Date: Sep 2000 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: West of Rd Am Vehicle: 02 KTM 640adv I fling mud	bet if u have a good hand and fold when u don't. It's that simple.

03-02-2004, 04:10 PM	#6
dcrawford Scooby Specialist Member#: 1165 Join Date: Mar 2000 Chapter/Region: BAIC Location: Lafayette, CA Vehicle: 1990 Acura Integra Hobly	From what I've learned...this is the basics... You need to know when to hold 'em, know when fold 'em...know when to walk away...and know when to run. Or so I hear.

03-02-2004, 04:12 PM	#7
andywrx Scooby Specialist Member#: 10355 Join Date: Sep 2001 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: Melbourne, FL Vehicle: 2008 Honda Element Black	Go to a local bookstore - there should be plenty of books on playing Hold 'em. Doyle Brunson's Super System is supposed to be a good one.

03-02-2004, 04:12 PM	#8
sct Scooby Newbie Member#: 20644 Join Date: Jun 2002 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: Austin, TX	As a general rule, only play hands that you look at your down cards and go "oh wow". If you go "mmmmaybe", don't play them. The fewer the players, the relative strength of lower hands improves. Do some searches for top texas hold'em hands to see how things are ranked. And the best way to get good is to play- a lot. I play about one tourney a week and am a "decent" player. I would get rocked in a real game.

03-02-2004, 04:14 PM	#9
fliz Scooby Guru Member#: 30342 Join Date: Nov 2002 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Grafton, WI Vehicle: 2002 WRX, 88GTI #687	It's not the cards...you have to play the man. Go watch Rounders

03-02-2004, 04:14 PM	#10
driggity Scooby Specialist Member#: 7453 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Vehicle: 2005 Legacy GT Wagon 5MT/Cloth Limited Edition	Don't eat Oreos while playing.

03-02-2004, 04:16 PM	#12
Hamsterstyle Scooby Newbie Member#: 45936 Join Date: Oct 2003 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: Token Hamster - FBHIC	Well, another question is are you looking to play online, or are you playing live with people? Hold 'em is different because depeding on whether you're playing with blinds, and a limited bet amount, it becomes pretty difficult to bluff. High limit or no limit, you usually have to bluff to really win big. Oh and fyi: Hold'em.

03-02-2004, 04:18 PM	#13
fliz Scooby Guru Member#: 30342 Join Date: Nov 2002 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Grafton, WI Vehicle: 2002 WRX, 88GTI #687	Know the odds. I've only played once. It sucks to find out you were bluffing when you thought you had a hand.

03-02-2004, 04:20 PM	#15
wrpmission Scooby Specialist Member#: 40540 Join Date: Jul 2003 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Arlington, VA Vehicle: 2004 Impreza WRX WR Blue	Buy a book by david Sklansky it will tell you everything you need

03-02-2004, 04:21 PM	#16
cwb124 Scooby Specialist Member#: 15571 Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Boise, ID (was W-port, PA) Vehicle: 2002 Subaru WRX Wagon blue	Go to www.twoplustwo.com Fantastic poker site with forums where you can ask questions and not get BS answers, rather get sound advice from skilled players. I frequent the site. CB

03-02-2004, 04:22 PM	#17
CirrusWRX Scooby Guru Member#: 17439 Join Date: Apr 2002 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: NYC Vehicle: 2002 x2 Silver WRX Sedan, White WRX Wagon	One word: Cheat. nothing like a hand of 7 queens to show em who's boss

03-02-2004, 04:32 PM	#20
ColinL Scooby Guru Member#: 114 Join Date: Jul 1999 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Wichita, KS and Whoring, OT Vehicle: '03 Evo, Rice White '01 Erion CBR 929	learn the hands and the odds first.

03-02-2004, 04:54 PM	#22
sorbee711 Scooby Specialist Member#: 14259 Join Date: Jan 2002 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Shrewsbury, MA Vehicle: OT, we're a-holes b/c we are bored at work	And as I found out a week ago... having a straight is wonderful, until someone has a higher straight... So be careful with having a strong hand, it may not be strong enough. Someone may try fast playing it with big bets and scare you off when they had crap. Or they may stick in there and you think they have some decent hand but you are reeling them in, when in fact they are slow playing and drop a full house on you.

03-02-2004, 05:00 PM	#23
imprezton Scooby Specialist Member#: 22958 Join Date: Aug 2002 Chapter/Region: SWIC Vehicle: 2008 She cheat me and taked my salts!-Crees	I've played ALOT of Hold-Em. Studied the starting hand strategies and all. One piece of advice reigns above all others: Be disciplined. Know your mathematical chances for making a given hand, and don't think for a moment that the Poker Gods will be on your side. Some others: 1. Get to know your opponents. If you have a hell-bent gambler on your table, don't try to bluff him. If you have a super-conservative player, bluff him, but not often enough to be predictable. 2. "Tells" are overplayed in both dramatization of poker and the color commentary of the now-popular cable poker tournaments. Know what a tell is, and recognize it if you can, but don't lay your bank on it. Also, be willing to set up a poker n00b with a false tell, to burn him with it at the best possible moment. 3. Just because you won the last pot doesn't pre-destine you to win the next one. You shouldn't make stupid calls when you're the chip leader any more than you would with your last chips. Treat each hand as a stand-alone event, and play that hand by your strategy. When it's over, win or lose, forget it and play the next hand.