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Old 05-31-2000, 06:05 AM   #1
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Smile total stage II cost.

Allright guys I'm doing you guys a favor , but I need your help. I'm compiling the total cost to run a stage II turbo kit at 9psi.
first of all we have turbo kit stage II from www.asr-us.com
$3800 or $3850 with ball bearing+
fuel pump(that is where I need your help. where can you get one and for how much)
fuel pressure riser $210 from www.spomotorsports.com+
Apexi itc $360 from www.apexi-usa.com/itc.htm
gauges:
EGT:$85 ,Boost: $47,Fuel pressure: $207 www.carparts.com
gauge pod $40.00 the eclipse gauge pod www.mindspring.com/~lotek/products.html[/url]
speacial fuel riser thingy(see shiv's SCC article. that is the other thing I need help with
So basically I need help on the speacial boost fuel pressure riser, and the fuel pump.
Shiv does bell engineeering have a website?
and do I have th right prices for gauges
So far total $4890

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Old 05-31-2000, 11:12 AM   #2
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Hey, I'm in the same boat. I'm pricing either the Minnam or the Turbo turbo kit right now.

Are you sure that EGT price includes the sender unit?

You also should consider upgrading your clutch at the same time as the turbo install to save on labor. Add $400 + shipping.

Consider a Subaru gauge pod from Teague's for $60 -- looks better than the A-pillar mount, IMHO. You also should get an Air-Fuel ratio meter, add ~$80.

You can get a Supra fuel pump from Rallispec. Check with them for price.

Good luck. This is an expensive undertaking!
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Old 05-31-2000, 11:16 AM   #3
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no I'm not sure about the EGT. and the problem with the guage pod from teages is : where are you gonna put the S-afc
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Old 05-31-2000, 11:17 AM   #4
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so our total is now up to about $ 5290
OUCH!
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Old 05-31-2000, 01:09 PM   #5
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Is it me or sometimes your spelling gets worse
But lemme stop knocking you b4 you really take my RS from me.

Why are you so much in love with the ASR kit? Powerhouse is coming up with a kit, that is right around the block from you. It is bound to be great! And Turbo is too. All in Florida.

Plus the minnam kit is expensive as heck.
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Old 05-31-2000, 01:24 PM   #6
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Add another $35 for the sensor on the EGT guage (I know I just bought one from carparts.com).
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Old 05-31-2000, 02:05 PM   #7
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R Diamond,
I was under the impression that if you use an EGT, the A/F meter is kinda superfluous (good word, eh?). The A/F meters that are available generally tap off the stock O2 sensor and they aren't accurate enough to be that useful. You really need a wideband O2 sensor to have an accurate enough input (and those wideband sensors cost a couple grand).

The EGT, from what I understand, is more accurate and is what most of the DSM guys use (and the guys who are running turbos here).

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Old 05-31-2000, 08:17 PM   #8
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I'll try and help you guys out, sense I have spent the money already.

Expenses:
Minnam Turbo II, $4200
ACT Clutch,~420
Install,~300
Gauges/housing,~225(noFP)
exhaust,~600
Fuel Pump,~200
Bell FPR,~180(?)
ITC,~300
AFC,300-200(sold SFC)=100
The grand total....$6525
This is not including little things you add, or problems you are most likely going to encounter. But you get what you pay for. A ~300hp car very capable of 12sec time slips. Its egts will never go above 1450f. This is not something everybody can do. If you are going to try and cut prices, I don't recommend doing this at all. Its late, so if I forgot anything feel free to chime in.

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Old 05-31-2000, 08:36 PM   #9
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Boy Matt do I disagree, some people pay more. MJOS did not pay that much for his setup and he is getting great results. Oh and this is the one time a slushbox sure does save you some money
Any truth to the fable that the Auto tranny is the same one in the WRX and is capable of holding ~240hp? Act clutch - $400. Auto tranny cooler - $150.
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Old 06-01-2000, 12:54 AM   #10
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Old 06-01-2000, 08:43 AM   #11
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Here is a crazy-lazy-cheap Idea, if you were to set up your turbo exactly like someone else(like shiv or mattC) could you skip the gauges and set up everything to the exact same settings on the Itc, J&S safegaurd, and S-AFC. to avoid detonation.
Sorry It is just a crazy Idea
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Old 06-01-2000, 09:29 AM   #12
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Imprezive,

I suppose you could skip the guages and hope there settings are good enough.

I NEVER would do that though. With the kind of investment you put into a turbo kit and the possiblity of blowing your engine, why skimp on guages just to save a couple hundred bucks?

If I ever get a turbo kit, my car will be like a 747 cockpit, guages everywhere
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Old 06-01-2000, 09:53 AM   #13
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that is what I figured.
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Old 06-02-2000, 06:34 PM   #14
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nickSTi: 240hp..no problem at all for the slusher. 280hp and massive torque...help needed. The line pressure is not high enough for this high of HP. I need to mod my Valve body in the trans. Full throttle shifts are fine..part throttle..long pause in 2-3 shift.

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Old 06-02-2000, 06:36 PM   #15
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Forgot: For a fuel pump use the Holley one for the Acura Integra...fits perfectly with no mods necessary..flow more than enough fuel and pressure.

Bell Eng:
http://www.cartech.net/fmu.htm

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Old 06-02-2000, 11:13 PM   #16
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Why on Gawd's Earth would anyone go for an unproven piece of kit as opposed to a proven kit is beyond me.

Especially as it has been "proven" by the "magazine of the month"

ie Ya get what ya pay for people..

I shall now crawl quietly back into my corner.

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what unproven piece of equipment?
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