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Old 05-31-2000, 12:08 AM   #1
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Question Any news from Rallispec, Minnam, etc?

Where are the Rallispec cams and intake? Any new products from Minnam, JC Sports (yeah I know), etc? There hasn't been much talk lately from any of the US Subaru developers. I'd like to bring the focus back to product development and evaluation, and have discussions with the companies themselves, if possible. I know Andrew from Minnam used to post, Rallispec used to post frequently, hell, even JC used to post. We need more input from US Subaru tuners, so spread the word.
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Old 05-31-2000, 12:16 AM   #2
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I agree with you, but I do remember Rallispec saying that the sometimes harsh treatment of the i-club people towards businesses sometimes sways one from getting involved. I still see andy posting, but toher than that I do agree that company involvement seems to be on the downside.
No suggestings from me for once. just repeating what i have seen.
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Old 05-31-2000, 12:25 AM   #3
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Well I can see where they are coming from almost every tuner gets thrashed as soon as they post he11 if I was a tuner I wouldn't want to post here either. Maybe we could have a tuner news forum where no one can post but the tuners have an opportunity to fully showcase thier new products before someone totally rips on them that way at least I won't have to e-mail 10 different companys about the same product. Only to get no responce b/c 1600 others are e-mailing about the same things.

Chris (just my opinion I could be wrong)
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Old 05-31-2000, 01:46 AM   #4
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Hmm, I don't buy the "the i-Club attacked my post and product so now I'm leaving" argument at all. Who the hell do you think your customer is? If you can't prove your product to us, then you're wasting your time! Criticism only improves products and service, imo. And furthermore, the criticism is rarely unfounded. What, so Rimmer doesn't have a problem with their SC kits blowing engines? So JC can't deliver? So Minnam's service often sucks? These people left (well, Rimmer was never here) because they were embarrassed. Prove me wrong, anyone. I guess I'm just ultimately let down that the major NA Subaru aftermarket companies aren't a part of this club. Things would work so much better if we could all work together...imagine how great it would be to have Mike Shields drop by every week or so and post a driving tip, or Rimmer talk about the issues surrounding supercharging. So it sparks some heated argument. So what? Expressing your opinion is what this club, and ultimately everything else, is all about. "There is possibly a hidden meaning contained in every opinion" - Kant (more or less what he was saying). So, speak up and let's figure things out, improve and expand.
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Old 05-31-2000, 02:35 AM   #5
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I totally agree that opinions are what make this board a great place to be but when a company announces a new product (JC Sports comes to mind) they are immediately thrashed for no reason other than everyone hates JC Sports. It is not fair to a company to get thrashed for simply telling us about a new product. When they announce a new product I want to hear about the product not about how much they suck we all already know who sucks and who is a reputable dealer so it doesen't have to be discussed again that is what the reviews section is for. I am sick of hearing about how someone was screwed by company X everytime there is a post about a strut tower bar. We have all heard it before we can make our own decisions about which companys we want to purchase products from. There is no need to flame someone for buying a ST bar from JC sports or a turbo from Minnam it is thier choice to purchase that product.
The only people that piss me off are the bandwagon folk who jump abord the company bashing train everytime a dealer talks about any product. There is never constructive criticism it is always this and that sucks about you product so get the hell out of here bs that drives people away. These people don't have a real point they just see an opportunity to bash and they simply take advantage of thier opportunity.
It is obvious that these companys know who thier customer is. They are still in business even though everyone here says they suck right? So just who buys products from them it has to be somebody maybe the people who actually listen to what the company has to say instead of hey lets talk a lot of crap about a company we have never actually dealt with but want to bash anyway just b/c everyone else is doing it.
And as far as criticizm improving service JC sports still is slow as hell and they still have lame stuff so how did we improve thier service and Minnam still has a 2 month backorder so how is it that we have improved thier service exactly? Oh and Rimmer put a hold on thier Subaru SC so they can work on what was it a KIA SC now how did that help us?
Oh I would love to have Mike jump in every now and again but he doesn't know anything right remember last weeks thread and he sells junk off of old cars right even though he started a lot of the stuff going on now. I know his was the first site that looked at when I got into Subarus.
And if expressing you opinion is what the I Club is all about then why have there been so many closed threads lately are these not opinions is it OK to dog out companys that sell us products but not cool to dog out ricers or anyone else for that matter a heated argument on some topics yields a closed thread but on others it is OK it's all in the eyes of the Imprezident's right that's cool I know some order is necessary but why one some things and not on others.
I personally would like to have as large a Subaru market as possible with multiple companys promoting the same products I love competition it lowers prices and makes products better.
I say we all send out an invitation to all known Parts Companys and invite them into our little community I would love to hear wat they have planned for the future of the Impreza aftermarket.

Got kinda carried away

Chris (let me catch my breath)
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Old 05-31-2000, 03:13 AM   #6
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Robert...

Kinda Feisty tonight aren't we

Keep taking the tablets Dude and everything will be ok

Richard

Oh and can I interest you in this very nice MOTEC II kit? Perfectly mapped for your motor sir??

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Old 05-31-2000, 05:57 AM   #7
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It seems to be that when posting, you're not ermitted to have the right answer..people still go way beyond questioning the product; the posts often turned into bashing sessions. I think what the tuners figured out was that they were better off sticking with their core clientele, and slowly converting the masses via word of mouth, rather than the other way around.
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Old 05-31-2000, 06:57 AM   #8
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I tend to agree with adam. Tuner X posts a product and instead of healthy discussion, he/she usually gets flamed off his/her butt instead of inciting useful discussion. I hope the new section in the new site works out. It is a great idea but...
I am afraid they are afraid.

see BPM versus dissatisfied customer.
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Old 05-31-2000, 08:04 AM   #9
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Yeah I agree with adam too. ppl tends to look at negatives more than positives. For proof look at your daily newspaper headlines.
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Old 05-31-2000, 08:10 AM   #10
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Nick I really have to dissagree with that one. I have had quite a few conversations with BPM and other dealer's/sellers concerning products and they realize that a majority of us are pretty knowledgeable and are looking for initial quality. I really don't think any of us are here to flame our aftermarket because they are the only aftermarket we have. I think our aftermarket since it's so small should have higher quality parts not some of the mass produced stuf fyou can find for alot of well supported cars.
There are always going to be some customers that will have problems with dealers that is a fact of buisness and those buisnesses need to realize that our market isn't that big (yet) but it is there and we are willing to pay a good amount for a great product. Don't offer us a Turbo/Supercharger kit and say that it will put out 300 hp and then not say what else may be required for it along with proper tuning and such. Alot of members have done their homework as far as what is out there and what they like/don't like and what may work and not work.
Those sellers like Turbo for example at first if you look back at his original post it may have seemed like he was being flamed even though he was making a turbo kit for our cars. But honestly it was more people trying to find out what may make his kit better or worse than ones being offered. His second post was alot more of the same thing and also helped alot of members (including you Nick ) in making more educated decisions. Ever wonder why JC (yeah, yeah, yeah, we all have heard it before but on to their products not service) started making custom kits with different size/trim turbo's? Even Turbo (which suprised alot of us and I am glad he is very helpful in that fact) offered to accomodate his customers in offering what ever turbo they may feel will fit their need.
Shiv, Adam, TMR, SteveS, Lloyd(what ever happened to the build up after the unfortunate tec 2 "tuning incident") Arik, Andre, Kevin, Mark, Dr. Ken(wonder if he ever sold his car after all the unfortunate things), Ed Dekker, ARG (keep us posted since your rimmers only hope right now) and other turbo/supercharger owners(I know your number is growing) to start showing what the
EJ22/25 N/A engine's may be capable of. Some are just running the "out of the box" kits and others are trying to push the envelope through tuning and upgrading. We are still in the infancy of our cars and what they may be capable of.
The only complaint alot of members have is that aftermarket part's are "expensive" which I agree is true but look at the amount of people who want those parts it's at least 1/100th of those wanting other popular cars. As long as the quality remains high I would be willing to pay for it.
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Old 05-31-2000, 09:15 AM   #11
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You guys are so right. But in reality, I see Rallispec often posting clarifications to questions, stating inventory, going to races, testing their products and supporting all those who wish to be a part of this whole Scooby craze. And Teague's auto posts alot about what they offer. To me, its allways seemed like SPD has held the elusive top scooby tuner postion. Why is that anyway? Didnt SCC prove him wrong, several times, in very big ways? It seems to me that the tuners need to do less marketing and more testing, like Rallispec and especially independent people like Kartboy who spend their time coming up with inventive ways to get around the gaping holes in the Scooby development here in the USA. Maybe if everyone took the time to actually thank those who have helped them in the past, instead of just thrashing those who may not have been as much of a help? It is really hard to get a foot in the door, especially when someone keeps slaming it on your foot.

All the tuners who have taken the time to actually develop parts have MY RESPECT, NOW AND ALLWAYS. Even JC Sports who has from the moment I looked up the scooby on the internet over 2 years ago, I think, has my respect. In my book, selling scrap from overseas and posting your opinions on your own site, right or wrong, does not a tuner make. Testing development and finding a niche in the market to exploit your expertise does.

Kudo's to all that care.

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Old 05-31-2000, 10:17 AM   #12
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I have to say SCC tho is a good publication it never ranked as one of the best in my books. It actually has more ads than infos. Not sure where u got your info from Eric. But SPD was one of the primary company to help with SCC's project Impreza. Sometimes loud does not equate to hi performance. Think about it.
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Old 05-31-2000, 11:20 AM   #13
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What I was refering to was that Mike Shields stated on his website or a post somewhere that, and I am paraphrasing here, that without changing the breathing characteristics of the engine (cams) the free flowing intakes and exhaust will have no effect on power. SCC tested the parts he sells and guess what. With the addition of a simple electronic device they got a, what was it, 20% power gain. That is alot more than "no effect". Did he ever do a dyno run, or even a Gtech run. And now on to the alignment issue. I have tested his fast road settings, and they are better than stock, but his insistance that you leave the back end stock is wrong. I tested different settings on the back and found that it had much more effect on the handling, in a positive way, than he would suggest. And as for selling parts that he wants to sell, he stated, and again it's paraphased, its only cheating if they find out. The lightweight bumpers are cheating in stock class, as he suggested, it only matters if you get caught. Well, that is not true. It is cheating and it has the potential to ruin a perfectly good year of racing, not to mention label you a cheater forever. His suggestion that cheating it OK, whether it is at the local level or at the National level is flat out wrong.

Now, I am not one to talk bad about people who obviously care about Subaru's and the people who drive them, but if it smells like BS, looks like BS, then it probably is BS. My point is that SPD enjoys a position that requires a little honesty in advertising. I havent been to his site in 9 months. I dont really pay attention to his statements anymore because he never earned my trust. Thats right earned MY trust. You may feel different about that, but thats my story and I'm sticking to it.

Dont flame me for this, it's just my opinion. Everyone has one, the only way to tell what works and what doesnt it to test it. SCC tested, and found out the truth. And unless I missed their point, in a recent SCC, they said without bringing his name into it that they didnt believe all the talk of how the EJ25 can not be safely turbo'd without serious bottom end work. That sounds to me like another statement that Mike Shields made on the SPD website before testing the theory. Of course he is talking from experience, there is no doubt that he has been doing this sort of thing for a long time. But even the 'experts' are wrong from time to time. My whole point lies in the testing/developing part. He may not have the time to test/develop his own parts, so IMHO, he just sells scrap from overseas. If that is what you want, fine, go buy it. I dont mind spending a little extra money on a better than *average* part, why else would I have paid 19K for an *economy* car?

Again, dont flame me, I had enough of that last night. State your opinions, but please try to back them up with fact, as I have.

And Gambit, I am a SOA performance muffler user, therefore, I understand that loud does not equal fast. BUT, SCC did prove SPD wrong on the subject of intakes and exhaust. Its all right there in Black and White.

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Old 05-31-2000, 11:49 AM   #14
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(Putting flame suit on.) I'd like to offer my honest opinion as someone who's been on the Checkpoint/MList for 2.5 years. I actually noticed the point where Mike Shields dropped out of the online conversation. It's pretty clear why.

Quite a boy racer contingent has sprung up since the early days. (Notice I'm avoiding the "r" word?) By that I mean people who are primarily interested in dressing up their cars, or going fast in a straight line. That's fine, except when it comes with an attitude.

Mike used to be online all the time questionsing whether you really can go fast with only $200 or $300 worth of parts. Those who make statements like that now get flamed or drowned out. Why? Because the boy racer thinks if he paid that much for a strut bar, it must be doing good. If the suspension is butt-numbingly stiff, it must be improving handling. Such opinions have nothing to do with facts, they're all about emotion. (If you don't believe me, look at some of the old supercharger vs. turbo posts!)

Emotion does little to foster a collegial atmosphere. That's why Mike is gone, he gains nothing by putting up with the flames. Even in his absence, he gets flamed for saying putting an intake on the car is a bad idea.

Mike built his reputation and business by only selling proven (read: expensive) parts. Effectively, that means only suspension and brake parts. They might not be the only parts that do the job, but they work exactly as advertised.

Sure, Shiv (and Minnam) proved you could gain quite a bit with a good intake/exhaust/fuel computer combo. But at the cost of a lot of blown 99RS MAF sensors.

We need both SPD's conservative and safe upgrade path as well as Shiv and others agressive "go-fast" approach. What we don't need is the emotion. I agree with Eric that we should appreciate everyone that develops parts for us. (But I'd add that we should also thank people like Rallispec, SPD, Challenger Deep, and hopefully Cobb Tuning who actually deliver the products they sell.)

That's just my observation. Take it for what it's worth.

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Old 05-31-2000, 11:50 AM   #15
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Why are you so defensive? It seems like you must've got some bad experience with SPD et al. yes, even experts get it wrong from time to time.
Changing the breathing capability does alter the power curve. the 20% increase was on the upper end of the rpm. In exchange you lost some low end grunt. Was that a clean increase? Hmm....
I think what he came across with some of his technical explanations especially with certain suspension setups are a compromise with streetability and casual race setup. Of course when you dial in the most extreme race setup for an autoX event you will get max performance. But can you use that setup all the time on the streets? I've spoken to many many tech guys here and they all agreed that unless your car is for racing only, going to the full extreme will cause detrimental effects to your car. But hey, it's your car and you can always deny and argue that's it is running top notch. So who's to say. I don't care. It's one's car right?
In regards to the EJ25 issue (not again!), I think it is safe to say that in order to get that EJ25 to perform at the rate of the STi EJ20 280hp levels, one cannot just put on an aftermarket swap and go on and expect the same reliability as an EJ20. It's been noted even SCC themselves spend quite a bit on money and tuning on the car to get it run stable at 250hp. Not gonna defend Mike's point. For some to run reliably with an estimated 280hp on an ej25 one would require considerable amount of work and money compared to an EJ20. Also his article was refering to the older MY98 EJ25 engine which was basically a bored out ej22 block. For further info please check in with the many ongoing ej25 vs ej20 threads.

ps: when I meant loud I did not mean literal sense.
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Old 05-31-2000, 02:27 PM   #16
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Richard, please re-read that post. You may have just read the old version. Before I put on my PC glasses and read it again.

Like I said. Cheating is cheating, as for being a loser if you dont cheat, well that is BS. Sure everybody does it, and some people get caught, ruin their reputation, get banned from the sport, cant get another job, forced into bankruptcy and never again get to do what they love. I never said that SCC was right about everything, just that they tested parts to determine usefullness. And in professional motorsports, the driver is not the one cheating, its the crew chief that 'creatively interprets the rules.' By all means stretch it to the limit, but most things are cut and dry. When they are not, they usually end up being 'clarified' real quick.

And as always, the quickest way to make your car faster is by improving the loose nut behind the wheel. Its a shame we dont talk about that more then we talk things like modifications. And I know you Richard, you agree, we have been in total agreement, practically this whole time. Its a shame it looks as if we are flaming each other. You know how I feel about driving. Sometimes I wish you would come out to the autocrosses so I could see how all the parts you have purchased from Mike are coming together. Our theories about our cars are not that different in reality.

And as for MAF's they are cheap compared to the amount of tires one would go thru if they did alot of track days and autocrossing, especially if they are DOT slicks. And I happen to believe its more of a vibration problem than purely a intake problem. Thats easy to fix.

BTW, the council is racing at Rosecroft raceway (horse track) in Ft. Washington MD, just a stone throw from Alexandria on the 11th. Why dont you come on out. Its probably full, but you could get on the waiting list.

My fingers hurt, now.

Peace everyone. Lets all be positive from now on, please.


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Old 05-31-2000, 05:45 PM   #17
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I'M STILL HERE!!!!!!!
and i'm working on some new parts too
i'll have aluminum endlinks ready in about a week or so
i want to beet the snot out of these first and make sure they are 100% perfect.
i might have tyrmelter test out a set for me and then i'll really know they are ok!
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Old 05-31-2000, 06:31 PM   #18
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I think we should cut some of these after-
market guys some slack! It's not their fault
that we have all been convinced that anybody
besides us cares about the the 2.5RS! They
are in business, and therefore must service
the $$$ making sector where supply and demand
BOTH are plentiful, as in H & A. The fact that they are slow may mean that nobody thinks that mass producing 2.5RS parts is
good business sense, yet! With the coming
of Japan spec models, the aftermarket is
not very stable. The guys manufacturing all
these parts that we want need to know that
there will be somebody around to still buy
'em in 2-5 years, or more. Just my fractured
opinion
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Old 05-31-2000, 06:36 PM   #19
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Aww heck.

RalliSpec:
Quote:
Sorry for the delay in getting back to you, we've been working like crazy to
get our rally car up and ready for this season as we'd been sidetracked
earlier in the year. As for the intakes, they are essentially ready to
go...we just need to get the testing program going before we release them to
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I think the real reason vendors like Mike Shields aren't active on the forum is because they are really really busy. As we all know, the forum sucks up a lot of time (more than we would like to believe).

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Old 05-31-2000, 09:59 PM   #21
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Kartboy most people on this board don't consider you as simply a vendor you do other things besides push the stuff that you sell. you make good products at very reasonable prices. But I remember a guy bashing on you b/c of poor packaging it happens to everyone at some point and some vendors get discouraged and stop posting.

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Old 05-31-2000, 10:08 PM   #22
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yeah that's right Shiv. I am quite suer that ppl like Mike are constantly bombarded with questions and concerns. Gee they have to get a life too you know! And if it's sacrificing time on this board to be with their kids then so be it!
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There are numerous reasons why we don't post much these days. Shiv has hit on the main reason. RalliSpec's product development as well as custom work eats most of our time up. A fast growing Mitsubishi clientele doesn't help either.

Another big reason.... a desire to shift our focus away from street tuning and more toward competition. Certainly the street tuning market is huge and lucrative. But its either about the latest trendy product or its about who can supply a certain item fifty cents less then everybody else. It just isn't what RalliSpec is all about. We seek out only the best products or we make it ourselves. Performance and quality are the bottom line with everything we sell...or we don't sell it. Yes it might take a little longer...or it might cost a little more...but at least you know you are getting something that works (and if it doesn't we do something about it). Most racers understand this. Ok, yes we know there are a lot of people on this board who value the quality of the products we offer...but there are considerably more who just don't get it (and that number is growing). Its just getting too difficult and too stressful to try and sort them all out. We don't have a problem explaining our products and why they are worth the money...but when people start telling you they can make stuff just as good or better for half the money in their freakin' basement...that's when we throw our hands in the air and get back to doing our own thing.

So what is the status of our products...

the intake...the intakes are done (with the exception of the cold-air shield) but are undergoing testing. We've had a '99 intake on our demo car for the last week or so which we've run pretty hard with no problems. To get the full potential we've concluded you will need a fuel computer of some type. But it will probably work reasonably well without it provided you reset the ECU after installation and allow the fuel maps relearn around the new flow characteristics. The MY00 intake still needs to be tested, though, as this might not be the case with the 2000. Some power gains seem to have been realised between 3500 and redline but no noticeable change in low end. Dyno tests are still planned but we want to test all our products at once to minimize costs. Price is still undetermined. We don't have a digital camera and are too busy to develop and scan photos right now. We will have the car with the intake at STPR so hopefully someone there will take pics and post them.

the cams...we have three sets of cams in our hands. Scott from SPO was going to test the DOHC set for us but during installation it was determined that the cams required shims that were outside the factory shim selection. We expected the need for thicker shims but thought we would still be good. Anyway, we are discussing this with the cam grinder to see if custom shims can be supplied. This should not be a problem on the SOHC because of changes made to the valvetrain. We haven't had time yet to install the SOHC set for testing but expect to do this very soon.

exhausts...we had a quieter alternative to our aggressive N1 catback but APEXi has discontinued the muffler (the RS). To make matters worse the N1 universals are backordered out of Japan so we can't get them right now. We are looking at the possibility of a different muffler supplier for our systems...discussions with several are currently underway. In the meantime we are doing what we can to get N1's in to meet demand.

suspension...we are looking into having our own custom-spec'd coilovers made. If it all comes together it will most likely be a 40mm or 50mm adjustable Bilstein cartridge in a CNC'd strut body. A non-adjustable lower-cost alternative is also under consideration. No time frame or price structure yet...please don't ask. Sway bar end-links...we have CAD drawings for aluminum end links with spherical bearings and are talking to bearing manufacturers. But it looks like Kart-boy got the jump on us. If we like his design there will be no need to make these....but then again 6061 is not the ideal choice in materials. They could be made stronger and lighter...and that is what we're all about

turbo kit...we've put this somewhat on hold because we've been approached by a certain manufacturer to test their kit. If we are happy with this new turbo kit we may back it instead of producing our own...provided they can meet demand and maintain quality. Certainly custom kits for higher ultimate power will still remain a possibility...but they will be custom kits sped'd to the customer's own requirements (price no object type situation). By the way we have high-flow fuel pump kits available for $250. These are Nippondenso units capable of supplying fuel for up to 400hp with no problem. Everything needed for installation is included (instructions as well).

rear mount battery kit...finally getting back around to this. It's going to be battery WITH box. Optima battery (no leaking acid to worry about) with fiberglass/carbon fiber battery box. Just need to put together the hold-down hardware for the kits and they are ready to go. Price $375.

other stuff....now have corner weighting equipment. Price as follows: corner weight and C of G printout (no adjustments) $30, coilover ride height setup is $100, full coilover suspension tuning (alignment and corner weight setup) $210, install and tune coilover set $325.

OZ Superturismos are coming in about a week. (GOLD ONLY!!!!!!!!!!...geez, we're sorry!) Price $325 each.

Look for a full product listing and pricing on our website soon...with updated pricing on just about everything. And we will beat Teague's or any US dealer's price on Whiteline's Subaru stuff.
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Old 06-01-2000, 01:32 AM   #24
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Ok, guys, we have gotten off topic. The point is that I appreciate the people who work hard at making Subaru cars better. The single reason I brought up SPD was to say that, in short, people need to read between the lines sometimes and look at things for what they are.

I was not flaming him Richard, dont misinterpret my language. I was stating fact, that resulted from testing, either my own or someone else. In essence, you are saying the same thing, that every tuner out there deserves our *respect*. But that there are some who actually test their theories, before they recommend them. Those are the people I trust.

SPD has done a tremendous job in helping Subaru enthusiasts improve their cars. Whatever that means to your car, so be it. I for one started out there too, years ago it seems. I read his information, and that is where my knowledge of him started. I harbor no bad feelings toward him, I just got turned off when Mike said that its only cheating if you get caught. Im not a boy racer. I take Solo2 serious. That is why everything I do to my car must be by the rules. period. end of story. No compromises.

SPD and Mike Shields are not bad. He deserves the same amount of respect as every other startup Subaru tuner. You are ALL doing a fantastic job, and your advice is always welcome on the I-Club in my book. But that doent mean I always have to agree with your theories. And it doesnt mean you should be flamed for it. So, post your thoughts, your new ideas, shoot a teaser by every once in a while to stir up interest. What Robert was saying, was, we miss your posts. That was the underlying point of this whole thread.

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edited because it still sounded bad.

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Old 06-01-2000, 01:36 AM   #25
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Hi Rallispec!

Just a couple of suggestions.. On your battery box, make sure that nothing can short... Carbon is cool but it is also conductive.. What kind of layup? [-45 0 45]?

And also, there are many other materials to use other than the standard 6061-T6.. Theres the 2024.. The aluminum following the H32 and H34 hardnesses, etc.. I guess it depends on where you need the material..
Hardness, strength, and brittleness go hand in hand in hand.. You can also experiment with various aluminum alloys as well.
I hope these suggestions aren't insulting your intelligences any..


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