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Old 03-04-2004, 02:38 PM   #1
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I am planning on buying some Rota Tarmac II's for my new FXT. I am not planning any mods, or I should say my wife said NO MOD's other than the wheels and tires. Long story, but lets just say a track prepped 91 LX 5.0 hatchback mustang is for sale now and I have a newborn son. So, I know that the 18's will have more NVH (Noise Vibration Harshness) due to the shorter side wall, and less roll over and bite for the same reason. Where as the 17's would have less NVH and better perfomance. But if I am not planning on stiffening up the suspension, I would still have a compliant ride from the stock suspension that could compensate for the stiffer side wall of the 18's, and have the wheel well filled out better at the same time. Purpose of the car will be daily commuter w/ occasional day long drives (Between 2-6 hrs) for weekend get aways.

Anyone have 18's on their FXT w/ stock suspension?

What does everyone else think?

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Old 03-04-2004, 02:52 PM   #2
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If you maintain the proper tire rolling diameter, an 18" wheel will not fill any of your wheel well gap, only lowering will do that.
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Old 03-04-2004, 03:02 PM   #3
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I'll go ahead and say that I think 18" on a stock suspension will look a bit odd. When i see that on any car I think, "Gee, maybe he/she doesn't have enough money to do it right". Stick with conservative 17's and you'll get the added benifit of cheaper tires. Also, 18's (sans uber-expensive forgings) are considerably heavier than stock and the added unsprung weight will not only wear out the stock suspension faster but may contribute to unwanted handling characteristics in bumpy corners.
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Old 03-04-2004, 03:03 PM   #4
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Welcome to the fold, first and foremost. New Parent gearheads seem to be the new FXT demographic!

18" rims are going to be fairly punishing ride-wise as well. The only downside to 17" is tire choice. The orthodox Plus One size would be 225/50/17. There's decent High Performance all seasons, and silly expensive run-flats, but not much choice in summer tires.

If you do a search on rims, wheels, tires or whatever, you'll find most everyhting you want to know.
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Old 03-04-2004, 03:07 PM   #5
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Welcome to the fold, first and foremost. New Parent gearheads seem to be the new FXT demographic!
Hey! I take exception to that! I'm a young single male with a penchant for cars that go a whole lot fater than they look!
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Old 03-04-2004, 03:14 PM   #6
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ok ok PART of the demographic
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Old 03-04-2004, 03:28 PM   #7
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If you maintain the proper tire rolling diameter, an 18" wheel will not fill any of your wheel well gap, only lowering will do that.
I fully understand that it won't physically fill the wheel well any more than the stock wheel/tire combination. My intention was that it would fill it appearance wise. More wheel vs. tire for a visual effect. Maybe I should have been clearer on that.
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Old 03-04-2004, 07:31 PM   #8
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Still, in the 18" wheel range tire choices are just as limited as 17" choices. Trust me I have been trying to come up with the best options for myself. I have opted for the T2's as well as soon as I can come up with a good set of tires at a reasonable expense.
So what color Tarmac 2 will you be getting and on what color FXT?
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Old 03-04-2004, 07:40 PM   #9
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I fully understand that it won't physically fill the wheel well any more than the stock wheel/tire combination. My intention was that it would fill it appearance wise. More wheel vs. tire for a visual effect. Maybe I should have been clearer on that.
Haha, yeah I should have known seeing that you tracked that 'Stang. My preference would be 17's at stock height, and 18's if lowered. Main thing is have fun with it!
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Old 03-04-2004, 10:52 PM   #10
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Still, in the 18" wheel range tire choices are just as limited as 17" choices. Trust me I have been trying to come up with the best options for myself. I have opted for the T2's as well as soon as I can come up with a good set of tires at a reasonable expense.
So what color Tarmac 2 will you be getting and on what color FXT?
I found that Yokaham AVS ES100's in 225/45-18 that will only cause a slight difference in circumference between stock 215/60-16 size. Makes the speedo off by 7% so if the speedo says you are doing 60 you are doing 59.6. Not that big a deal if you ask me.

I was thinking steel gray on a Platinum Silver FXT. I also saw a picture today on here of a plat silver w/ Rota SDR's in steel gray that looked really sweet. Here is a link to the pirctures of it: http://www.bankheist.net/sodforester/
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Old 03-05-2004, 10:43 AM   #11
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^^

I think you meant .7%

The Forester in your link is the Subaru of Dallas Forester and has Prodrive P7's not Rota's

See this link: http://www.subaruforester.com/viewtopic.php?t=2596
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Old 03-05-2004, 02:11 PM   #12
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ProDrive PFF7 actually
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Old 03-05-2004, 03:57 PM   #13
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May have been answered before, but is WRX offset same as new Forester?

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Old 03-05-2004, 04:34 PM   #14
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May have been answered before, but is WRX offset same as new Forester?

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No, the Forester is +48mm.

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Old 03-06-2004, 09:59 PM   #15
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what do you guys think about gunmetallic Tarmac 2's on a java black FXT? I know there will be a lack of contrast in colors but the black on black idea has me thinking happy thoughts.
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Here what 18" Tarmac IIs look like on mine.


I would consider getting 17's if you are not planning on lowering your FXT.

but Kevin@SOD has my all time favorite looking FXT, If I was to get one it would like this


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Old 03-07-2004, 09:12 PM   #17
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I have officially placed my order for a set of tarmac 2's and falken ziex through SD. I sure hope they turn out to be all I have hoped for. I decided to go with the gunmetallic and 225/50/17. Hope I get them before next weekend.
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Old 03-10-2004, 11:55 AM   #18
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I have officially placed my order for a set of tarmac 2's and falken ziex through SD. I sure hope they turn out to be all I have hoped for. I decided to go with the gunmetallic and 225/50/17. Hope I get them before next weekend.
Randolph - rs Be sure to post a pic when you get them on the XT. I want to see what they look like, even if it is a different body and wheel color.

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Old 03-10-2004, 02:04 PM   #19
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yea me too. 225/50/17 I presume?
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Old 03-10-2004, 05:32 PM   #20
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unfortunately, the Falken Ziex ZE-512's are on back order so I went with the Kuhmo KH-11. Hopefully they will be ok since I do not plan to do much aggressive driving anyway. When the Kuhmo's wear out I will just get the ziex's then, hopefully. I'll have pictures up sometime next week for you guys interested in seeing them. They are not scheduled for delivery for another week, man I can hardly wait. Believe it or not, this was my wife's idea, a gift from her, what a woman. My next mod is going to be the STI rear sway bar, tinted windows, and maybe, just maybe the Forester STI springs.
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Old 03-11-2004, 03:15 PM   #21
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Anyone know what the stock FXT wheel weighs?
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Old 03-17-2004, 01:29 AM   #22
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Here what 18" Tarmac IIs look like on mine.


I would consider getting 17's if you are not planning on lowering your FXT.

but Kevin@SOD has my all time favorite looking FXT, If I was to get one it would like this


RR
thank you! Thank you very much!

those 18's are so beautiful on that car!
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