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Old 05-30-2000, 01:12 PM   #1
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Hmm. I sold my RS for a Type-R.

Parts aren't scarce, or they shouldn't be.

Think stock, not aftermarket. That's just my opinion though -- I wouldn't modify the R. Most people will never touch it's limits.

It's noisy, but that's the point. I actually don't really listen to the stereo unless in stop-and-go traffic.

The acceleration thing is a myth. The car is just fine under 6k RPM, although it's no torque monster for sure. This is a difficult car to drive really fast though.

The Type-R has an LSD as well, by the way. Handles great in the rain. Typically FWD cars are HP limited due to torque steer and the inherent deficiencies in an FWD platform, but this car isn't overpowering it's front wheels at all.

If you want one GET IT NOW. Dealers are getting their final allocations and next year is the re-design.

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Old 05-30-2000, 01:12 PM   #2
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TypeR!!!
I mean they're not even in the same league
The TypeR is a perfectly tuned machine according to all the praise it has received, well deserved no doubt. Wish I could drive one
 
Old 05-30-2000, 01:21 PM   #3
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YES sir the Type R..
i love the impreza.. but..its just another league.. the only thing the impreza has over the R is the AWD..
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Old 05-30-2000, 01:32 PM   #4
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Up in Canaduh... The RS is around 28K, the Type-R is 31K, so your looking around 3K in difference in price anyhow. Now as far as performance is concerned, yeah the Type-R beats it hands down.
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Old 05-30-2000, 01:34 PM   #5
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Good grief all the Honda lurkers just pounced....

Are you gonna race and what.... Yes the Type R has more to start with but far less that can be brought out of it... It is after all front wheel spin oh I mean drive. I've had my share and if you are gonna just daily drive it with a couple of Autocrosses in stock trim sure take the Type R. But if you want the options the Subie is it. Just because the After market is just getting started over hear, I have a review from Motor Magazine and they pitted the Type R against the WRX... The WRX stomped it... Yep the RS is not a WRX but you can get more ponies out of it with less mods than the type R.

Oh well your Choice, might want to consider that a UK Magazine, might have been EVO that named the Impreza as Car of the Decade...

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Old 05-30-2000, 01:41 PM   #6
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Sure wrxwannabe tell a half-truth! The magazine sure wasn't talking about the RS
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Old 05-30-2000, 01:50 PM   #7
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Hold on here.. I have an Rs and my Brother has the 00 Type R. Heres how it goes. He can keep up with my Rs on the backroads but i can still pretty much loose him. On the straights, he has more power and so hes fast but not by much. I think the 2 cars are a great race one on one. U give the Rs a small suspension upgrade like a spring change or something and youll have equal to the type R handeling remeber the AWD. Personally, i rather have my RS vs. the typeR. Ive driven both and i say that a good driver could match quite well the TypeR.

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Old 05-30-2000, 02:08 PM   #8
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Type-R. I bought an Impreza RS to replace my Integra RS (interesting name similarity ),
but I thought about a Type-R... Only problem being that I wouldn't want to drive it in winter, and I can't afford two cars.

Plus the R is quite a few more bucks than the RS was.

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Old 05-30-2000, 02:13 PM   #9
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use the xtra 4000 you save and get a turbo and a sway bar and see which car is better.
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Old 05-30-2000, 02:16 PM   #10
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Ok so my first post was a little hasty.
Yes these are both very nice cars. The Type R is very well equiped car for what it does and yes the RS is NO WRX but Subaru had to create a market for it and when (ok, if, for all you of little faith) the WRX does get here everyone will understand what I'm talking about. The Article in "Motor" magazine was about a Australian spec WRX which is around 210Hp.

I was just a little bit shocked at the large amount push for the Type R.

I would say it is my love for Rally as well as road racing that has my interest in the Subie. The RS is not a WRX but it does not take much to make it one. We have people on the board who have made their own turbo kit from Legacy parts and at a very reasonable cost. Even a mild Turbo setup on the RS which is the exact plateform as the WRX STi offers great rewards.

I do believe that Shiv will be able to easily get to 200hp out of the NA RS. And their is so much more to be offered with the Turbos. We can easily swap in a 2.2 Turbo block from the Legacy or opt for a STi Block and go for the 280hp(Stock trim) The options abound. We have the shop on the east coast making wide body kits for anyone wanting to duplicate the 22B, hey, there is just so much to offer with the Subie.

But I will say that if you only want to buy a car and leave it stock you would likely be very happy with the Type R.

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Old 05-30-2000, 04:34 PM   #11
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The type R is an awsome car for FWD but it's so well tuned stock you can't expect to much gain from aftermarket mods. The RS, on the other hand can be modified quite a bit. It all depends if you want AWD and with the right mods, can beat a type R or you want very good stock car. The turbo impreza is coming out next year and that should be around the same price as the type R. And there is more room in the RS's back seat. don't know what that has to do with performance but oh well.
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Old 05-30-2000, 04:35 PM   #12
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The type R is an awsome car for FWD but it's so well tuned stock you can't expect to much gain from aftermarket mods. The RS, on the other hand can be modified quite a bit. It all depends if you want AWD and with the right mods, can beat a type R or you want very good stock car. The turbo impreza is coming out next year and that should be around the same price as the type R. And there is more room in the RS's back seat. don't know what that has to do with performance but oh well.
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Old 05-30-2000, 05:16 PM   #13
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i'd go with the impreza. i was at the auto-x in michigan and the there were three type-r's there. they were quicker by a second and a few tenths than i was, like he said, save the 4000 and go turbo w/ a strut upgrade and you'll be smokin!!!!!!!!!
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Old 05-30-2000, 05:20 PM   #14
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I was just a little bit shocked at the large amount push for the Type R.

It might have something to do with at least a few people on here being car enthusiasts rather than brand loyalists. I appreciate cars, and I tend not to care too much about who makes them, unless the manufacturer has a really poor track record.

A stock RS won't keep up with a Type-R. I'm sorry, but it just won't. The R carries many more lateral g's through a corner and has much quicker acceleration (and not just from a stand still). As I've said, the RS is easier to drive fast due to it's wide power band and intuitive handling; the R's limits are more difficult to explore and really require a track. I've never come close to experiencing them since I haven't had a chance to autocross or otherwise track the car. I will say that what I've experienced so far is more impressive than what my RS was capable of even with the STi V suspension -- less COOL (drifting the RS in the rain was a lot of fun), but potentially quicker due to the additional grip (partially a result of very good stock tires -- Bridgestone RE010).

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Old 05-30-2000, 06:22 PM   #15
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It depends on where you live. I live in upstate NY where we get lots of snow. That is the only reason I chose Impreza RS over Type-R. On the other hand if you live in Los Angelos where you will probably never see snow go with the Type-R.

And also depends on what kind of driving you plan on doing. For example if you are a track person go with the Type-R because Honda heritage is "fast track" and high revving cars (very exhilarating on the track )

If you are a rally person go with the Impreza RS (AWD is very exhilarating on dirt). Impreza RS is always ready to play kinda like a puppy whereas a Type-R is more like a cat you need to tease it a bit.
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Old 05-30-2000, 06:24 PM   #16
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Now if you are considering WRX or Type-R..then it is a no brainer.

WRX!
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Old 05-30-2000, 08:44 PM   #17
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Uhh.... I am quite sure that you can put a supercharger on the ITR and call it a day. See u guys always end up saying uuhhh yeah add this mod and that mod to beat the ITR. But let's compare stock for stock ok. I mean, u can buy an old civic DX and put in a GSR engine and say bye bye to these cars too! And I bet you save quite a bit too. So stop with the "by the tine u add this or change that you can beat so and so car..."

rant off. having said that. Go with ITR. The exlcusivity is way kewler than the RS. U get this kewl plaque and those magnesium alloys. Ouch! You get what u pay for. Most important tho, it depends where u live. It kinda suck to drive your ITR on the snow. yucky....
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i don't know if anyone mentioned this yet, but the insurance will be more on the type R i bet. my insurance doesn't even consider my '00 2dr RS a sports car.

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Old 05-30-2000, 09:47 PM   #19
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If you talking about insurance it also way cheaper if you get the 4-door which only adds 5 lbs. The type R and the RS both excel in what they are made for. Type R's suck on a bad roads and RS's can't keep up with the ITR on a track. The ITR is also lighter because it doesn't have the heavy AWD system so it should be a little more nimble. Not as roomy as the RS, though. And no trunk monkey!
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Old 05-30-2000, 09:48 PM   #20
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not mine its a compact car
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Old 05-31-2000, 12:47 AM   #21
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Post '00 Type-R Integra or the '00 RS?

I had to make the same decision when buying a new car for the first time.. And now, my friend in college has the same question.
Here are some comparisons right off the bat..
I know about the GS-R posts, but to me, the Type-R integra is a totally different animal.

Type-R:
-Aftermarket parts a plenty..
-A great high end engine that revs to infinity.
-Very, Very noisy due to low amts of sound insulation. (but who needs that anyways)
-~24,000$
-Great handling due to factory tuned sus.
-Since this is a "rare car", would this make parts a scarcity like the RS?
-FWD.. (I'll leave it up to you guys to consider if this is an advantage or a disadvantage )
-great looks except for the 4 oval headlights up front. I like the Japanese Type-R styling more..
-Doesn't accelerate well until the engine hits 5500RPM..
-Has it's "F1 heritage"..

Impreza 2.5RS
-~19,000$ (MSRP unloaded!!)
-AWD, need I say more.
-Torquey engine. Pulls like hell..
-Handles beautifully in WET or DRY or dirt thanks to the LSD and the center diff(??).
-Boxer engine with a nice deep tone which lowers the car's center of gravity in comparison with inline, canted, or V configurations..
-great looks
-I wish it had more power to compliment the low end power it already has...
-Has it's Rally heritage.

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Old 05-31-2000, 12:54 AM   #22
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Just to give you the heads up - there will be a turbo Impreza next year.
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Old 05-31-2000, 12:55 AM   #23
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i dont think you can qualify the type R as a competitor to the RS, GSR would be a diff story, but they're both really different cars... the RS is really practical for city driving and all-weather, while the Type R is like the closest thing you can get to purchasing a street legal race car in the U.S., you REALLY gotta drive one of these to understand just how incredible it feels. i would say you can't really base the decision simply on the facts stated above, it would come down to preference and desire, hehe
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Old 05-31-2000, 06:44 AM   #24
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Didn't have time to scan the post completely, so I don't know if anyone mentioned this but... I don't think you can get a 00' Type-R for list ($24,000). Well, you can't in this area (Atlanta) anyway. There's one in the paper w/3,000 mi. for $30,000 obo!!! I don't think he'll get that, but $27,000 doesn't seem out of the question. That should make the choice easier for most people.
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Old 05-31-2000, 07:36 AM   #25
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Off the lot in stock form:
TypeR hands down (unless living in a place known for lots of snow)

In modified form:
Impreza 2.5RS hands down since the TypeR will be hindered by it's FWD and greater chance of torque steer sooner or later(did you look at SCC's article on if the TypeR could be made better the Jackson Racing TypeR was detonating due to the higher compression and lack of good tuning though it can still be made into the greatest FWD track car).
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