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Old 05-10-2000, 09:10 AM   #1
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Post new Saturn commericals with rice-boys

You guys seen the new Saturn commercial where the guy's pumping gas in his new 3-door Saturn with his girl in the car. Out in front of the store is a bunch of kids admiring a FULLY riced-out Civic with the stickers, cut springs, the works. They see the guy opening that 3rd "suicide door" on the Saturn and they're like "Woa! How'd you do that?" Looking confused the Saturn driver looks around and says "Do what?" "The trick with the door?" And they just look at them with a big grin on their faces. I thought it was pretty funny. Shows real life. These idiots spend $1000's "fixin' up" their cars when they only look cheaper and more plastic than stock and they are dumbfounded by simple factory options like a 3rd door. Morons. Great commercial.
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Old 05-10-2000, 09:37 AM   #2
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yeah, i've seen that commercial. not to flame you or anything, but why are you assuming that the civic has cut springs? for all you know, it could be equipped with top of the line coilovers. it's just a commercial anyways.. i highly doubt a group of honda enthusiasts are going to give some saturn owner even the time of day, let alone act like the idiots in the commercial raving about some retarded looking 3rd door. well, just my 2 cents.

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Old 05-10-2000, 10:12 AM   #3
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but why are you assuming that the civic has cut springs
Obviously, you can't tell how good of a lowering job was done, but did you see the car. I think it had TWO HUGE "Type R" emblems on the side of that thing. Now somebody who goes through the trouble of doing stupid crap to make their car appear to be a model that it's not (and not even using proper decals/emblems) probably is not spending the time or money to properly lower their car. It's obvious they're going for appearance and not performance, so thinking that they improperly cut their springs is normally a pretty good assumption.

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Old 05-10-2000, 10:17 AM   #4
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I don't think that is a good assumption. I guess that Adam99RS cut his springs then too? He does after all have WRX stickers on an RS!
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Old 05-10-2000, 10:21 AM   #5
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How many Impreza RS owners have cut their springs? I can guesstimate about...oh....zero. The assumption maybe deserving of other cars.
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Old 05-10-2000, 10:22 AM   #6
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I believe the stickers on the side of that Civic were TenzoR. I've seen pictures of that car in some magazine somewhere.
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Old 05-10-2000, 10:25 AM   #7
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I know of an RS owner that cut his springs. He's a good friend of mine and his car is very fast (ie turbo) and handles extremely well! Oh, he is on this board.
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Old 05-10-2000, 10:29 AM   #8
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Darn it!
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Old 05-10-2000, 10:34 AM   #9
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I like the truck at the begining that they are lowering right on the spot. I think it is either Air-Ride suspension or some really adjustible coil-overs.
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Old 05-10-2000, 10:43 AM   #10
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I guess that Adam99RS cut his springs then too? He does after all have WRX stickers on an RS!
Uhhh, no. Adam has a turbo and some other serious modifications that greatly enhance the performance of his Impreza, making it very similar if not better performing than a stock WRX. Once again, you people are missing the point. There's a HUGE difference between making your car APPEAR to have better performance and actually modifying your car to perform better. Throwing WRX stickers all over your car is only ricey if you don't have the performance mods to back it up.
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Old 05-10-2000, 11:32 AM   #11
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Hey if I put Type-R stickers on my S10 WideTrack, will that make my vortec turn into v-tec???? that would rule...
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Old 05-10-2000, 11:41 AM   #12
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bryan: master of assumptions.. there you go again, assuming that the civic in the commercial is just some riced out honda. that civic could have a turbocharged b18 vtec for all you know. you're the one that's missing the point. could it be that you're ignorant or just narrow minded?
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Old 05-10-2000, 11:41 AM   #13
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bryan: master of assumptions.. there you go again, assuming that the civic in the commercial is just some riced out honda. that civic could have a turbocharged b18 vtec for all you know. you're the one that's missing the point. could it be that you're ignorant or just narrow minded?
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Old 05-10-2000, 11:43 AM   #14
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bryanW says,

"Now somebody who goes through the trouble of doing stupid crap to make their car appear to be a model that it's not probably is not spending the time or money to properly lower their car."

Ok, and then he says,

"Throwing WRX stickers all over your car is only ricey if you don't have the performance mods to back it up."

In the first post you imply that stickers means no performance to back it up. In the second post, you give reasons why stickers are OK.


What it all comes down to is this:

How are you supposed to know, whithout thuroughly inspecting the vehicle, if the guy has the performance mods to back up his stickers? You dont! So you shouldn't say anything!
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Old 05-10-2000, 11:58 AM   #15
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I haven't seen the commercial yet. But I am sure Saturn meant it that way with the civic to be some sort of rice car. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
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Old 05-10-2000, 01:27 PM   #16
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Enough talk about ****en rice. Imprezer, the i-club should do what the Toronto club is doing.

Whoever mentions rice boys and crap anymore puts $10 into a fund and then we have draws and crap.
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Old 05-10-2000, 01:37 PM   #17
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gadamm! who cares what some kid does with his/her honda? they are car enthusiasts, is'nt that enough? this honda bashing got ancient a looooong time ago.
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Old 05-10-2000, 01:42 PM   #18
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Yeoman, M8,

I totally agree with both of you! Let's not make fun of people here. We all like different things. Let's just leave it that way.
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Old 05-10-2000, 01:46 PM   #19
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this honda bashing got ancient a looooong time ago.
Who was Honda bashing? Not me. Honda makes great cars. I drove one for years. Nobody said anything bad here about Honda or their cars. I was criticizing morons for doing stupid things to their cars in an attempt to fool people into thinking that they had performance modifications. It's more about dishonesty than anything.

I'm still not quite sure why they do things like that. Some of them do think that girls like that stuff. But how many girls even know what a Civic Type R is? I guess that might be why it works then. Since they don't know what a Civic Type R is then any old kid can fool them into thinking that he has one, just by throwing on a big sticker. As a car enthustiast, it really disturbs me for you to confuse them with car enthusiasts. REAL enthusiasts spend a lot of time and money modifying their cars for higher performance. REAL enthusiasts don't like it very much when kids get out a 10-year-old Civic that's in horrible shape and proceed to throw $60 worth of stickers on it in an attempt to fool people into thinking he's a REAL enthusiast. No they don't like that at all.
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Exactly, and not everyone has the money to get a turbo, a coilover suspension, catback exhausts etc. Stickers are affordable, they can make your car look more like the higher-end model you cannot buy/afford. It's the same reason why some people buy fake brand-name stuff (ie, fake Rolex watches & designer purses for the adults; fake Hello Kitty and Pokemon stuff for the kids). If you do not understand this, then you must be a rich person who had always been able to afford whatever you wanted.

Besides, do you truely belief that people putting on the stickers think they'll actually gain performance? Of course not, it's the looks they're going after. The owner of a stickered-up car never said his car is fast now did he? He/She just want to make it like cool (according to his own taste). It's too bad that "making a car look cool" is the same as "making it look fast" (think: what cars look cool? sportcars) or else we wouldn't have this forever going riceboy-bashing scene.

Anyway, I don't mind what others do to their car. As Corey said, we ARE individuals and all like different things.
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Old 05-10-2000, 02:28 PM   #21
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hello Mr Real Enthusiast. thanks for letting the rest of us share your oxygen.
they are enthusiastic about their cars! even if that means they plaster them with the gaudiest stickers under the sun. who cares how much money you have to throw around? to each his own. calling them morons is hardly a very positive form of critisism:
they are KIDS! they enjoy tweaking their cars, to whatever extent.
you say yourself that you don't know why they do it: so leave them to it! please leave the "it's about honesty" speach alone to. who are they hurting? there is "show" and there is "go". i am a "go" person myself, but i don't get all in a twist with every kid who scrimps and saves to plaster his old beater in vinyl, just because we don't have the same taste.
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Old 05-10-2000, 02:36 PM   #22
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So, in other words, everybody's entitled to their own opinions and tastes as long as it fits your opinions and tastes right? What the hell is the point of having an opinion if you're not allowed to express it. They can put all the stupid stickers all over their cars that they want and try to pretend to be something their not, and I can sit here and laugh at them all I want.

And I've always hated fake Rolexes and fake Lambo kit cars, etc. too. It's all dishonest. No, I've not been able to afford everything I wanted. If I did, I would have bought a 22B. I bought what I could afford to buy. But I'm not going to put a bunch of 22B stickers all over my car though and pretend to be one. The people that know that it's not a real 22B would just laugh and laugh and laugh. I don't laugh at people who can't afford turbos. I laugh at people who can't afford turbos but put "IHI Turbo" stickers on their cars to try to get people to believe that they have an IHI turbo. There's nothing wrong with a base model Civic. It's a fine car for the money. There IS something wrong with a stock base-model Civic with a whole bunch of crap on it that's there for the purpose of pretending to be something its not (yes, I'm repeating myself). Why don't you people get that? One of the worst things you could ever do is to pretend to be something you're not. In the end, you only feel like an idiot and everybody laughs at you. If you have a base-model Civic, don't pretend to be a 145 mph Civic. Just tell everybody how well the car handles and the good gas mileage you get. There's nothing wrong with being proud of who you are and what you have. I'm proud of my RS. Just like I was proud of my slowest-model-ever 65hp CRX. Just like I was proud of my '81 Corolla. It wasn't winning races, but we put 150,000 before we decided that we'd like to have a 6-year-old Honda instead.
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Old 05-10-2000, 02:51 PM   #23
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but i don't get all in a twist with every kid
Do you remember a story from a couple of years ago about a house in a small neighborhood (50's style) I believe in California? They entire neighborhood was pretty normal, everybody got along, everbody's houses weren't the same at all (like those damn subdivisions) but they did all stay on the conservative theme. Then one day, this new family moves into this little house on the corner and paints it the brightest pink that I've ever seen. EVERYBODY on that street filed a lawsuit against the owners.

There's questionable taste, then there's HORRIBLE taste. You know what I mean? Sometimes it's obvious that people do certain things to their appearance for the sole purpose of being as obnoxious as humanly possible. If they wanted to be different and stand out a little, they would paint their house yellow or blue or green (all the houses were white). I don't mind neon-colored pinstripes or even most body kits or amber tinted windows. But when I see the kid 2 blocks from me with the 4-door Civic with every bulb color clear and a muffler tip that honestly sounds like a very loud bumblebee, it makes me physically ill, like I want to vommit (how do you spell that)?

You can attack me all day and all night about how it's wrong to judge other people but I don't subscribe to that garbage thinking. I'm from the school of thought that you should be personally responsible for your own actions, good and bad. If I think somebody has done something so stupid to the appearance of their car that they need to be slapped, I'm going to laugh and criticize them all I want. If they can't handle it, then it's time to grow up. I've had people laugh at everything I've driven my entire life and you learn to cope with it. And BTW, of all the cars I've driven the Subaru has gotten more laughs and giggles than anything else. I'm still getting the "Why would you want that Japanese piece-of-****?" on a daily basis from my friends. It comes with the territory.
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Old 05-10-2000, 02:52 PM   #24
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Ok, I think I've written enough today. I had no idea I could go on and on about something. Hmmm.
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Ok, I see everything that both bryanw and everyone else are saying and meaning. I'm not for either side.

BryanW: yes, some people do put stickers on their cars to try to look faster or better, or whatever you want to call it. I'm not supporting rice, but we all understand the riceboy concept, and you don't have to explain it ten thousand times (we really aren't that stupid). What we are saying is: (back to the original point) the Civic on the Saturn commercial MIGHT have the performance mods to back up the look, so unless you have proof that there ARE no mods other than stickers and cut springs and stuff, then don't bother complaining about it.

Everyone else: bryanw is trying to get his point across, and he may not see what you are saying. He may be closed-minded on the subject, but that's his own problem, so leave him alone. Let's just all be friends and not turn into some Honda-Acura board...

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