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Old 03-12-2004, 09:04 PM   #1
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It's soon to be summer. Instead of running RE92s, I'm thinking of saving those for the fall and grabbing new tires for the summer. While I'm at it, I had might as well get new rims to mount them on so that I don't have to bother with the unmounting twice a year.

I'm sure there are a bunch of you out there with a great eye for wheels. Throw out some opinions on wheels that catch your eye (in a good way) on a black WRX.

I've been considering three wheels in 17". They are all moderately lightweight, weighing around 17lbs. I'm not bound to only these three, if you've got other suggestions!

BLACK RACING N1s $260/rim


OZ Superleggeras $355/rim


SSR Competitions $585/rim


Each one is about $500 more expensive than the previous (for the set), so I'll have to take that into slight consideration.

Secondly, my purpose for rims was new rubber. The 3 summer tires that I've been pointed to are:

1) Falken Ziex ZE512 ($180/tire)
2) Yokohama ES100s ($222/tire)
3) Toyo T1S's ($235/tire)

Any comments on the rubber?

The difference between the cheapest and most expensive package would be 86%, which, at the end of the day, is substantial.
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Old 03-13-2004, 12:06 AM   #2
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I don't really like the black racing or the SSRs... but the OZ will look nice in gold to match the black

Tire choice wise... I've used T1S and am using ES100 right now... the T1S is the best rain tire and is superb in the dry... it's basically a tire almost designed for Vancouver... the ES100 is not as good as the T1S but seems to be a popular tire as it's cheaper and more quiet, a little bit less grip in the rain but feels similar in the dry

Other wheels that I suggest

Work Emotion (REV is a distributer)
Prodrive PFF7 (Cody @ Total Autosport has them)
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Old 03-13-2004, 12:19 AM   #3
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I don't really like the black racing or the SSRs... but the OZ will look nice in gold to match the black

Tire choice wise... I've used T1S and am using ES100 right now... the T1S is the best rain tire and is superb in the dry... it's basically a tire almost designed for Vancouver... the ES100 is not as good as the T1S but seems to be a popular tire as it's cheaper and more quiet, a little bit less grip in the rain but feels similar in the dry

Other wheels that I suggest

Work Emotion (REV is a distributer)
Prodrive PFF7 (Cody @ Total Autosport has them)
Thanks for the tire infoo, super helpful.

As for the OZs, I really don't like the silver that it comes in. I know PDMracing is stocking some gold ones for about the same price. I was hoping to go for a bit of a darker look too, gunmetal/anthracite, polished black, flat bronze or something.

I'll look into the prodrive, since I haven't considered those yet.
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Old 03-13-2004, 01:51 AM   #4
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I like the black racing ones. Not very common.
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Old 03-13-2004, 10:55 AM   #5
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I've got an obsessed friend that compared alot of wheels and went with the black racing wheels and he's very happy with them.
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Old 03-13-2004, 12:19 PM   #6
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I've got an obsessed friend that compared alot of wheels and went with the black racing wheels and he's very happy with them.
There's a certain charm to them. Ideally, I would have gone bronze, but they're sold out now and almost twice the price of black.

I'm taking a look at the work emotion CRKais in bronze ... I never considered those on a WRX before ashatron14 mentioned them.
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Old 03-13-2004, 01:48 PM   #7
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My friend actually has those on his White 6, work emotion CR in bronze. Those are really nice looking wheels IMO.
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Old 03-13-2004, 02:34 PM   #8
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mind I ask my same question here too??



I'm looking for a good set of all-season tires.... like better than the RE92.... mostly looking for better ride comfort and lower road noise without killing the performance too much..
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Old 03-13-2004, 03:10 PM   #9
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mind I ask my same question here too??



I'm looking for a good set of all-season tires.... like better than the RE92.... mostly looking for better ride comfort and lower road noise without killing the performance too much..
Here's my comparison spreadsheet I made last year.

http://members.shaw.ca/jftam/files/W...Comparison.xls

Pricing is probably off by now.
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Old 03-13-2004, 05:41 PM   #10
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The cheapest high performance all season would be Falken Ziex ZE-512 ($125.02)... I've heard they're very good for their price and is a good overall tire.

Ben Tang likes the Bridgestone RE950 ($163.02) on his parent's legacy
Necromancer praises the Dunlop SP5000 ($146.11)

If you can afford the $176.93 per tire than the top choice would be Pirelli P-Zero Nero M+S

Toyo FZ4 is also not bad at $111 a piece

All price listed is from http://www.tiretrends.com , which tends to have a relatively cheap price compared to normal tire shops... the best place to buy tires would probably to drop by National Tire Wholesale in Delta
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Old 03-13-2004, 05:46 PM   #11
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U might wanna look into these new Toyo Proxes 4 ultra high performance all seasons. I don't think they're actually out yet here but from what bender and his work buddies told me, they're super impressed with it during their tire test driving event. IIRC, its ~$150/tire.
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Old 03-13-2004, 08:40 PM   #12
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I know I don't have a Subaru but I have Falken Ziex 512s on 17" OZ Superleggeras and I'm very satisfied with them (for daily driving). Deft shredded his 512s at autocross though... while I didn't get much serious tire wear. I'll be going back to the stock SP5000s for the next autocross.

The dry performance of the SP5000s are admirable, but their wet performance is definitely lacking compared to the Ziex 512s. The SP5000s used to hydroplane pretty badly in any kind of small puddle, but the Ziexs just plow through them now

I agree with Sunny about the Toyo T1-S being the best tire for dry/wet conditions, but the only downside IMHO is that they are pretty pricey.

BTW Work Emotion CR Kai is very nice, I was about to get those but I got a deal on these Superleggeras instead... Those will look really nice on a WRX, the Work site has a picture of a 04 STi with 18" bronze Emotion... very sexy!
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Old 03-13-2004, 10:27 PM   #13
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The cheapest high performance all season would be Falken Ziex ZE-512 ($125.02)... I've heard they're very good for their price and is a good overall tire.

Ben Tang likes the Bridgestone RE950 ($163.02) on his parent's legacy
Necromancer praises the Dunlop SP5000 ($146.11)

If you can afford the $176.93 per tire than the top choice would be Pirelli P-Zero Nero M+S

Toyo FZ4 is also not bad at $111 a piece

All price listed is from http://www.tiretrends.com , which tends to have a relatively cheap price compared to normal tire shops... the best place to buy tires would probably to drop by National Tire Wholesale in Delta
hm... i did a lot of searching before settling on continential contiextremecontacts. z-rated all-season. nice except for the soft sidewalls which makes things a bit bouncy and a slightly vauge turn-in

my mom's legacy is on sp5000's. great rain tire. only okay in snow, but far better than re92's. my contis were better in the snow than the sp5000's however.

toyo fz4... had them for 2 weeks and got rid of them... bad bad bad

almost bought pzero nero m/s but read consistent reviews about problems with tramlining in uneven pavement. so-so in moderate snow.

falken ziex ze512 i would have bought had i known of a dealer back then, but didn't... okay in snow as long as it's not deep.
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Old 03-13-2004, 11:16 PM   #14
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can anyone recommend a good set of summer tires?

i will most likely go with S03s but what else is out there?

i ordered the wheels already and the size is 18x8. the P.C.D. (whatever that is) is 100 and the offset is 43. those specs will fit the sti right? i wish i could have got them a little bit wider.

so does that mean that the widest i can go for the rubber is 235?
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Old 03-13-2004, 11:23 PM   #15
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check the wheels/tires forum... there are several threads about max wheel/tire sizes for sti over there.
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Old 03-13-2004, 11:28 PM   #16
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well for the rims i wanted those were the biggest size available. i just have to choose a tire now.
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Old 03-13-2004, 11:37 PM   #17
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i had a set of OZ SL with T1s in 17s ... loved them - parted with them for larger and it hurts once in a while when i look at my car without them
right now i have the gunmetal work emotion CR kais with falken FK451 and i have to say they look great. i miss my OZs though

oz, T1s is probably the best at that price. light rims + light wheel means better pick up and manuverability - t1s doesnt tram, while my fk451 does.

well the price is an issue - but i think it is bang for the buck right. affordable light weight is hard to come by. and i think the oz were 16.5-17 lbs almost the same as the stock rims. giving that the tires weigh less than stock - u will have an overall lighter set. cant beat that!

i would love to have SSRs but i found them too expensive

i personally prefer then stealthy look and if it was me i would opt for the gunmetal OZ if color was an issue but i have seen bronze and it is completely gorgous
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Old 03-13-2004, 11:42 PM   #18
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oh and u will need to lower the car, since the car will start looking like an outback -> i did 1", completely unnoticeable now but no outback looks and dont have to have a heart attack everytime i park or go over speed bumps
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Old 03-14-2004, 01:59 AM   #19
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Dang.. I was sold on the Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 as the perfect wet weather, westcoast tire. Atleast in my neck of the woods, it's always raining and I want tires that can deal with it. Am I going too far?

I see alot of nice tires suggested and nobody mentioned my pick, so I gotta wonder.
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Jik Jak, you can go to a 245 on that wheel and it shouldn't rub. It will also look much fatter. Most 235's look like 225's but a 245 will really look aggressive. S-03's are superb tires but another decent choice may be the Kumho MX and you are looking at about $125 less per tire....$500 for the set which could be put to other uses. There is also the Toyo Proxes4 which I've heard some good things about which are another $20 per tire cheaper than the MX's. Another tire close to the S-03 is the Dunlop SP9000 which is about $50 cheaper per tire...

What wheels did you get? The sizing sounds right and should fit the Brembos. A 245/40R18 tire would be perfect although 235 would be ok as well.
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Old 03-14-2004, 03:22 AM   #21
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I agree with Sunny about the Toyo T1-S being the best tire for dry/wet conditions, but the only downside IMHO is that they are pretty pricey.

BTW Work Emotion CR Kai is very nice, I was about to get those but I got a deal on these Superleggeras instead... Those will look really nice on a WRX, the Work site has a picture of a 04 STi with 18" bronze Emotion... very sexy!
Any idea on a ballpark price for the Works? I haven't gotten a reply from REV yet. Anywhere else sell them?
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AJR(Racing) does yes.sir. I believe my friend got his set of 18s for 1300 CAD? I think so anyway.

It wouldn't hurt to give them a call.

And about tearing up my 512s at autoX, I think that's because I wasn't checking my tires after my runs, I think I could have run an extra 5 psi in the fronts, as they were sort of chunking. I'm still new to this stuff.
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18" for $1300 is very reasonable ... that would make 17"s something like $1100?

Would 18" be sacrificing too much performance?
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yeah i as a 18s owner - i can tell u that it is definitely different. off the line is definitely slower, but there isnt significant diff or gain for turn in.

well i know rev distributes them - AJR gets theirs from rev. maybe u might get a better deal with AJR ... who knows
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Old 03-14-2004, 04:33 AM   #25
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Could you post a pic of your wheel setup? Those are my fav.

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i had a set of OZ SL with T1s in 17s ... loved them - parted with them for larger and it hurts once in a while when i look at my car without them
right now i have the gunmetal work emotion CR kais with falken FK451 and i have to say they look great. i miss my OZs though

oz, T1s is probably the best at that price. light rims + light wheel means better pick up and manuverability - t1s doesnt tram, while my fk451 does.

well the price is an issue - but i think it is bang for the buck right. affordable light weight is hard to come by. and i think the oz were 16.5-17 lbs almost the same as the stock rims. giving that the tires weigh less than stock - u will have an overall lighter set. cant beat that!

i would love to have SSRs but i found them too expensive

i personally prefer then stealthy look and if it was me i would opt for the gunmetal OZ if color was an issue but i have seen bronze and it is completely gorgous
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