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Old 05-09-2000, 02:01 PM   #1
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They did a test of the IS 200 down-under. It is the same as the IS300 here :

IS200/300 test

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Old 05-09-2000, 02:04 PM   #2
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RX300 got lucky... It's a glorfied camary. besides the RX300 should be competing against real trucks, like F150s, Troopers, and the like.

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Old 05-09-2000, 09:29 PM   #3
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The IS is VERRRRRY nice! I love it!!!
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Old 05-09-2000, 10:46 PM   #4
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No manual or AWD. I'm sure it's a great car but you might want to wait for the BMW 330ix. The is300 interior looks a little cheap also.
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Old 05-09-2000, 10:46 PM   #5
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Isn't the IS200 different from the IS300 because of the 2liter engine in the IS200..and isn't the IS300 supposed to have a 6cyl 3.0 liter engine?

I thought about getting the IS300 too, but I decided not to wait because I was hoping it would be an IS200 (not the Euro version, but an Altezza) with an 2.0 VVT-i, 210hp 4 cyl. Also they don't have the same 6speed that I wanted. Looks the same as the Altezza I wanted, but isn't really like the Altezza under the hood.
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Old 05-09-2000, 11:35 PM   #6
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Looks like one car but when you pop the hood its totally different? Man that sounds familiar. Maybe they can sell a bunch of them then string everyone along with rumors of a turbo for a couple years then finally sell the decent engine. I got a look at a real Altezza and that thing looks like it fromt he outside but Toyota got super conservative with the engine and drivetrain. If they price it the way they normally do then they will be asking for more then the car is worth. After all it's just a Toyota with a different badge.
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Old 05-10-2000, 12:16 AM   #7
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That car is still nothing but a Universal Japanese Automobile with NO soul.

Wait for the WRX.
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Old 05-10-2000, 01:13 AM   #8
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I'm considering selling my '99 RS for a Lexus IS300. Check out the website. www.lexus.com/is
Only pissed b/c no manual trans. available this year. Awesome styling though.
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Old 05-10-2000, 01:29 AM   #9
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yep, no manual fun for us americans

and they clam this to be a BMW 3 fighter...untill the pop the manual it i would rather have the BMW
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Old 05-10-2000, 01:40 AM   #10
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what's the price-range on the IS300?

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Old 05-10-2000, 01:46 AM   #11
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Did anyone see the rally coverage in the latest SCC mag?

A Lexus RX300 (SUV?) came in second. Stock!!

Ed
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Old 05-10-2000, 02:48 AM   #12
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well, I'm driving one right now for two weeks in Taiwan and i love it.... i would have one as a dayly commuter but REALLY need a bike or a WRX as a night/weekend car...

it just lacks power, i'd probably drop in a 4l V8 from a GS400 and then it would be a soulfull ride....

O/...
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Old 05-10-2000, 09:42 AM   #13
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Nice looking car, but still not a scoobie.
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Old 05-10-2000, 09:43 PM   #14
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The Lexus IS300 is a Toyota Altezza with all its guts ripped out and replaced with American garbage. This means no turbocharged 6-cylinder like in Japan, no decent suspension like Japan, no manual trans like Japan, you get the idea. IMO the IS300 suffers the same problem as the Impreza, the Nissan 240SX (Silvia in Japan), andf Infinity G20 (Nissan Primera everywhere else): same skin, smaller cajones.

Sorry for the rant. Flame suit on!
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Old 05-11-2000, 12:36 AM   #15
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flanagan, Japan doesn't get a turbocharged inline6 for the IS200 either, at least not from Toyota You CAN buy a fully warrantied TOMS Atlezza 280T though, which is just the Altezza RS200 with its 2L I4 turbocharged.

I don't think you guys should rant so much about the IS300. It actually has more horsepower than the Japanese top-of-the-line Altezza and Europe/OZ's IS200 (there's no IS300 on sale anywhere right now), and has more torque because of the increased displacement. The only thing you can complain about is the lack of the RS200's 6-spd and probably a softer suspension tuned for US roads. But don't forget that the Lexus IS200 in Europe and Oz only have the auto also.

These are the engine specs for the Japanese model Altezzas (taken off www.toyota.co.jp):

Toyota Altezza RS200
BEAMS 3S-GE DUAL VVT-i Inline-4
Displacement: 2L (1998cc)
Power: 207hp/7600rpm
Torque: 159 lb-ft/6400rpm
6-spd Manual (5-spd Auto)

Toyota Altezza AS200 (Lexus IS200 in Europe and Oz)
BEAMS 1G-FE VVT-i Inline-6
Displacement: 2L (1988cc)
Power: 157hp/6200rpm
Torque: 147 lb-ft/4400rpm
4-spd Auto

Now compare it with the US Lexus IS300
Displacement: 3L Inline-6 VVT-i
Power: 215hp/5800rpm
Torque: 218 lb-ft/3800rpm
5-spd Auto


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Old 05-11-2000, 12:36 AM   #16
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The IS300 is estimated to cost around 30k to start. A bit pricey for a BMW fighter given the disadvantages of no manual.

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Old 05-11-2000, 01:56 AM   #17
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Clement, on the AS200, Altezza that you have listed there, are you sure that it is a inline-6? I've never heard of inline-6 in an Altezza, maybe I'm behind. I haven't been back home for a year now.
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Old 05-11-2000, 07:33 AM   #18
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uhh Clement, the Altezza's 2.0L motor is also an inline 6, this is whai have now, not a 4. which is the reasone why it is so smooth and not as agressive as a 4.


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Old 05-11-2000, 11:20 PM   #19
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Sorry about that Clement, yeah I can make out the Japanese page, since I can read Japanese.....I can't believe an engine with VVT-i in a sports sedan can have that low of a horsepower rating with an inline 6. I mean I can't believe Toyota did something like that. I thought an Toyota inline 6 with VVT-i, I could expect an output like the 6cyl NSX engine ....290hp...
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Old 05-12-2000, 01:12 AM   #20
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Yeah I know, the Altezza's 2L inline 6 actually has less horsepower than the 2L inline 4. Weird...
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Old 05-12-2000, 01:39 AM   #21
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Ownly, yeah the Altezza AS200 (Lexus IS200) has a 2.0L inline 6. I did forgot to mention that the Lexus IS200 also gets a 6-spd manual though. Maybe you are driving the Lexus IS200, or maybe the 2.0L I4 of the RS200 is so smooth that you think it's an I6?

YellowR592, the AS200 and Lexus IS200 have inline 6s. You can either check out http://drive.fairfax.com.au/content/...s/review2.html

or try taking a look at the Altezza's spec page, it's in Japanese but you can probably it out: http://toyota.mediagalaxy.ne.jp/altezza/tech.html
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