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Old 10-29-2009, 09:04 PM   #151
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Old 12-14-2009, 05:20 AM   #152
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Sorry I'm bringing this thread back from the dead, but I'm going to be doing the H-6 conversion on my Wag in a couple days and I have a pair of DBA Series 4000 Slotted 290mm rotors available to me(thanks to my buddy). Would they work since they're thicker?
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Old 03-21-2010, 06:49 AM   #153
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im gonna do this worth the little bit of money
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Old 03-31-2010, 08:41 PM   #154
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whats the "year" for the outback? 2000-till?
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Old 04-29-2010, 03:16 PM   #155
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So basically this is just swapping the 10.3" WRX rear rotors for the 11.4" outback rear rotors... and that gives... better... stopping power... ?
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Old 04-29-2010, 07:28 PM   #156
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So basically this is just swapping the 10.3" WRX rear rotors for the 11.4" outback rear rotors... and that gives... better... stopping power... ?
yes, because the pads have more 'leverage' on the rotor. im sure theres a better technical description of how it works...
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Old 03-30-2011, 05:50 PM   #157
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Don't hate on me guys, but this seems like a good place to post it. (rise my zombie RISE!!!!!!)

I went to a local NAPA and secured the hardware for the h6 conversion.

2x rear caliper brackets at $44
2x rear premium napa rotors for $68
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thats the whole setup for under $120, i'll get pads when I'm ready and paint up the calipers, brackets and rotor hats a nice black or silver for presentation and protection.

sorry if this is old news, but its pretty cheap and I thought I'd share
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Old 05-01-2011, 01:18 PM   #158
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Just did H6 rear yesterday. Simple to do. NOTE: MUCH easier, quicker, and cleaner just to drill out the spot welds on the dust shield. I bought a cheap 1/4 titanium bit for about $3.99, and each dust shield took about 4 minutes. Don't forget to coat the newly drilled notches in the back plate you've created, with a coat of paint. I used hi-temp BBQ paint.

I'll post my personal impression of the mod after I actually get some decent driving time in. However, aside of any performance gain, it sure looks a lot better with the rear rotor filling out the space behind the wheel more. Stock looked so pinner in there. Haha!

Thanks to this awesome forum for all of the information on this mod!

EDIT 5/10/2011:

So far, I have over 100 miles on the brakes, and really notice no difference in braking. With that said, I have not had any short stops, or slammed them on yet. Regular driving/braking, I notice almost nothing at all though. It sure looks a lot better however. All in all, cheap and easy which makes it worth it for me. If I for some reason notice any huge difference later, I'll report back.

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Old 08-26-2011, 06:10 PM   #159
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Has anyone done this to a 06-07 Impreza 2.5i? Also how will the rear brake bias would be... Does the front 2.5i and wrx calipers has the same stopping force? Thanks
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Old 11-04-2011, 06:11 PM   #160
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I posted earlier that I was going to do the conversion. Awesome. Good mod especially with slotted rotors. DBA Slotted rotors helped out a lot too since I removed the dust shield. The dust shield also helps with keeping rain off the rotors in rainy driving. I have tested the conversion. The back end squats a bit faster under heavy braking. I can come into a corner faster and the car isn't quite so pushy through the corner since there's more torque on the rear wheels. But remember, you can have all the braking ability in the world, but you can't stop without having good rubber to maintain contact and friction with the road. All in all good mod, much easier and much much less expensive than the 4-pot/2-pot conversion from the 06+ cars.
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Old 11-04-2011, 07:01 PM   #161
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The fact you bought slotted rotors answers my question, but you have no idea what you're talking about, do you?
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Old 11-07-2011, 09:02 PM   #162
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The fact you bought slotted rotors answers my question, but you have no idea what you're talking about, do you?
What question was that?
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Old 11-26-2011, 11:08 AM   #163
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OK read all posts. Never liked feel to 03 WRX brakes - started with 05 STI. Saw numbers a few posts back about Brembos front and rear. Never worried about braking under any conditions in my STI, WRX feels mushy, almost sloppy. I have 6 month old pads on and stock rotors. From the earlier posts it looks like the H6 upgrade should be done with the stock 03 calipers remaining rather than going Subaru 4 pots. It also seems like you should upgrade brake lines, 4 pots, H6, fluid and master cylinder from another site - possibly scoobymods. How many have done this upgrade and kept the stock WRX calipers vs going 4 pots and what are your impressions? This is just a DD but I miss the braking in my STI, but don't really want to plunk down for new Brembos. Also we need to going with larger wheels correct? Something like at least 17 x 7 without a spacer to clear the Subaru 4 pots right? Just looking for clarification and opinions before a start getting ready for a few mods this coming year.
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Old 11-26-2011, 11:33 AM   #164
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If your brakes feel mushy I would start with a good service. Fluid change making sure you get all of it changed and get all that air out.

What pads are on there? If it is the stock pads that could be much of your problem...they suck. I had an 03 and my brakes were fine after pads, lines, fluid, rotors, H6....and it was cheap as I really did most of it as a maintenance cycle. Upgrading the calipers = $$$$. Brembo's are an expensive upgrade...how much do you really want to spend?
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Old 11-26-2011, 11:56 AM   #165
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Not looking to go with Brembos again, looking at using the 06-07 WRX Subaru branded 4 pots, or rebuilding a set from Japan. I'm guessing you left the front calipers the stock 2 pots from reading your response. Might try the upgrade in stages and see how keeping stock front calipers feels.
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Old 11-26-2011, 03:34 PM   #166
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Actually..on my 03 I was very happy with the pads, fluid, lines, H6, rotors, and master cylinder brace route.

The bottom line here is it all depends on the deal you get.
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Old 11-27-2011, 12:55 AM   #167
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^Thanks, I appreciate the input. This will really help, now to convince the wife....
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Old 12-31-2011, 09:41 AM   #168
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Actually..on my 03 I was very happy with the pads, fluid, lines, H6, rotors, and master cylinder brace route.

The bottom line here is it all depends on the deal you get.
So I have an 03 Wrx with squishy crappy feeling brakes and I am a cheapskate. I want to improve brake feel and performance but want to be as smart about this as possible. I dont care about the look of 4pots or brembos, and they are a very expensive upgrade. I autocross occasionally (hopefully more events in the coming year than past years.)

It sounds like the most bang for my buck route is master cylinder brace, ss lines, flush fluid. I still have some life left on the hawk hps pads I installed about a year ago. How much more feel and or performance improvement will I get with the h6 read rotor upgrade?

I'll probably go with the brace+lines kit from TIC, possibly the h6 read rotors. And the flush with some super blue.

Hopefully that puts a smile on my face when I hit the brakes. Anyone have any other suggestions?
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Old 01-05-2012, 02:45 PM   #169
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How much more feel and or performance improvement will I get with the h6 read rotor upgrade?
No offense meant, but have you read the rest of this thread? There are quite a few responses to that question already. However, in summary, some feel a difference, and some don't. Personally, I've had this mod about 7 months now, and still don't feel much of a difference on my '02. It does look better though. Good luck.
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Old 01-05-2012, 05:37 PM   #170
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Note to anyone doing this, that it's a PERFECT time to adjust your ebrake if you feel you have to pull up too much on the lever and/or it doesn't hold well anyway. I wish I would have remembered to look up the procedure before doing the H6 rear rotors. Now I have to make another time to do it. Here's a good thread on "how to":

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Note: After reading enough, you should probably NOT make this adjustment at the center console unless there is slack in the cable. The proper way is at the rear rotors.
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Old 01-05-2012, 06:54 PM   #171
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Would I recommend doing this as a standalone upgrade...probably not. But if your brakes are thrashed (like it sounds like his are...and like mine were when I did all my upgrades) it made a hell of a difference. I did all of it at once and the difference really was night and day.

Do I attribute that to *just* the H6 upgrade? not really. It was a combination of the better pads, SS lines, better fluid, AND the H6 rears. But I think the H6 rears had something to do with the brake bias because it just seemed to make the rears work more effectively.

As for E-brake adjustments. I just tightened up the adjuster on the wheel a bit and that was close enough. I didn't go through that whole ordeal. I know I could have tightened it up a bit more but I really didn't care as I got it to where a decent tug on the handle set the car in place no problem.
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Old 08-01-2012, 05:23 PM   #172
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So after reading this whole thread, I've got one thing to clear up.
I have an 04 RS. If I want to use the standard h6 caliper brackets (Autozone or oem) I have to buy pads for a 2002 WRX and the appropriate rotors and brackets. My pads for 2003-2005 wrx will NOT fit?

Alternatively, racing brake has a set of h6 brackets that let you use 2004 pads? Am I correct is my statements?
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Old 08-02-2012, 08:51 AM   #173
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If you call kns brakes and talk to Ken he knows these answer off the top of his head... he also had way better prices on the brackets than i could find elsewhere
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Old 08-02-2012, 09:29 AM   #174
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^also got my h6 conversion from KNS. they worked with me to get me a custom package tailored to my car and wants for a great price.
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Old 09-09-2012, 03:44 PM   #175
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What year caliper outback brackets fit? And is it possible to use the Legacy GT rear rotors? If so from what year LGT?
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