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Old 03-21-2004, 08:30 AM   #1
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Wondered if someone can help me. The folks at Speciality Subaru in North Vancouver don't seem to be able to.

I am planning to make my way back to Canada for good and would like to import a MY2005 2.5L STi. What I would need to do is take delivery of it in Japan, ship it to Singapore to modify it back to a Bugeye and all my other goddies, then ship it into Canada.

I can easily do this if I were getting a Volvo, Porsche, BMW, Mercedes, ..etc. (nice European Car). but all Japanese dealers don't seem to be interested.

Another way is to get a LHD version from some other country and ship it in, but does anyone know what the requirements to import a car are? Would it need to go through AirCare and other tests, or is it the piece of paper that is needed.

Hope someone can help....
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Old 03-21-2004, 11:27 AM   #2
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Japan is now selling 2.5L STi? I thought they were sticking with the 2.0?
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Old 03-21-2004, 11:29 AM   #3
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Probably best to go ask at a DMV.
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Old 03-21-2004, 11:33 AM   #4
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From the transport canada website

Can I import a car from a country other than the United States?
No. Vehicles manufactured for sale in countries other than Canada and the United States do not comply with the requirements of the Canada Motor Vehicle Safety Act, CANNOT be altered to comply and CANNOT be imported into Canada. The only exceptions to this rule are vehicles fifteen (15) years old or older as determined by the month and year in which the vehicle was manufactured and buses manufactured before January 1, 1971.

Here's the link:
http://www.tc.gc.ca/pacific/faq/road/importation.htm#23
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Old 03-21-2004, 12:21 PM   #5
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The European delivery is different. You're getting a NA spec car in European which they don't really seem to care or already granted them a short term driving paper. Wouldn't it be easier to just buy the STi here and then get your goodies ship back to Canada to modify? The way you think of doing will never be legal to drive on the street.
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Old 03-21-2004, 12:30 PM   #6
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Umm, I guess I'm missing something. Like Koyo said, why don't you just buy a MY2005 2.5L STi here and save all the hassle?
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Old 03-21-2004, 05:43 PM   #7
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you could import it as a race car for track racing only, but you would still not be able to drive it on the streets.
but why bother after all the duties ,taxes, shipping, and mods you would have to do ,you could of bought a porsche
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Old 03-21-2004, 06:39 PM   #8
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as far as i know. the 2.5L sti motor is only available in japan in the new forester sti.

on a side note, u can only do a european car delivery from country of manufacture into canada only if the car came out of the factory already meeting canadian standards. as far as i know, subaru dosen't offer that kind of delivery program.
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Old 03-22-2004, 02:23 AM   #9
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I think most of us don't understand why you would want to do this...
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Old 03-22-2004, 09:36 AM   #10
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I am looking to do this because I have been away from Canada for 8.5 years now and can bring things in TAX FREE, well, up to CAD10,000 per item. Well, I am bringing my wife back who will be newly landed in Canada, and she can bring anything in TAX FREE, 100%.

I have already enquired at BMW and Mercedes where they allow European delivery of Canadian Specification Cars and will ship it back into Canada delivery FREE. Less the free delivery, why can't Japanese manufacturers do the same, since the STi is built in Japan, or is it?

Speciality Subaru in North Vancouver suggested that I write to Subaru Canada, but I can't seem to find their address or email address on their website!!!!!

Well, if Subaru doesn't want the business, then I guess I would need to buy myself a Mercedes E55, BMW M5 or Porsche (?) then!!!! Whichever I choose, it would still be cheaper than the price of an STi here in Singapore!!!

BTW, there are quite a lot of 'grey' market 2.5L STi engines floating around in Europe and Asia.
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Old 03-22-2004, 10:35 AM   #11
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Well, if Subaru doesn't want the business, then I guess I would need to buy myself a Mercedes E55, BMW M5 or Porsche (?) then!!!! Whichever I choose, it would still be cheaper than the price of an STi here in Singapore!!!
Buy the M5 and take delivery of it in Europe. Then have it shipped here.
I think the hassle and cost of getting a STi here from overseas would be more than what you would pay in taxes just buying it here.
Hmmm, STi or M5.... give your head a shake and get the M5
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Old 03-23-2004, 04:09 AM   #12
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First of all, you're comparing Subaru to luxury brands here. It's like comparing apples to clone sheeps. The margin on BMW and Benz is high enough that they can afford to ENTERTAIN their customer. I'm surprise that Specialty didn't give you any contact infomation. I guess you can get someone to check their Subaru manual because there could be some contact info there. Another way to do it is to find a broker in Japan that can buy a NA spec STi and ship it for you. The bill will still say it's a out of country purchase.

PS: New BMW look ugly as hell...thanks a lot Bangle...I'll keep my 2000 BMW instead.
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Old 03-23-2004, 05:23 AM   #13
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good to see that you are comming back I dun think many peeps know how much an STI would cost in singapore . something in the region of 130k canadian ! just to put one on the road in singapore.
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Old 03-23-2004, 01:11 PM   #14
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Welcome back to Canada and good luck with the immigration stuff! Let's look at your options...

1. What you are asking is for a CDN spec car to be delivered in Japan. Possible if you know some executives at FHI or you're a rally team maybe, but otherwise there is no such official "Japan delivery" programme like the European delivery programmes. Overseas spec cars are sold from FHI to the distribution company (Subaru Canada) and then to the dealer, and then to the consumer. It seems kind of wrong to get slapped with a destination charge when you can't choose your own method of shipment, but them's the breaks, I guess...

2a. If you're looking at a JDM spec car, it is possible to bring a car in for "Show & Display" under NHTSA rules to the USA, then drive it in Canada up to 1,500 miles a year as it will have USA plates. But only then if you know insurance folks, and if you can get the car registered in some state (most have residency requirements).

2b. Temporary residents in Canada holding work permits or study permits (which it doesn't seem like it applies to you and your wife) can bring in a car temporarily exempt from the RIV programme and "Canadian safety standards" for the duration of their visa. However, there is a separate vehicle inspection in BC that might require you modify the car. And again, insurance. Also you will have 7.5% PST due if the car was purchased in the last 6 months, as I have unfortuantely discovered...

3. You mentioned "modifying it back to a Bugeye" -- I'm not sure what that means, but if you mean bringing in the parts and dropping them into a CDN spec TS or something, then sure, go for it! You simply declare the engine as your wife's "personal belongings owned prior to immigration." Like shampoo and stuff. As you said, duty and tax-free for those immigrating to Canada for the first time. The key is that you will be driving a car with a Canadian VIN. I hope you have insurance hookups, though. Also, this whole scheme was appealing when turbo Subarus were only sold outside North America, but now that you can get one of the world's most powerful Imprezas from a dealer with a warranty and financing, there's not much incentive anymore unless you just gotta have the JDM thing.


By the way, I could be wrong, but I think your total exemption is CDN$10,000, not per item (again I could be wrong). Your wife, of course, gets an exemption for anything she owned prior to immigration.

Anyway, you have an interesting plan, and it's good to consider these things because it's literally a once-in-a-lifetime chance to bring in lots of booty to Canada. I really wish I had brought back a nice little GC8 drivetrain when I came back from Japan...

Good luck!
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Old 03-23-2004, 01:17 PM   #15
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By the way, I just thought of something. Money is liquid in ways that cars aren't. If you're so keen on using your exemption, buy a Euro car and use your exemption, then sell it in Canada (I think that's allowed, right), and use the money to fund the purchase of a normal CDN spec STi like everybody else!
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Old 03-23-2004, 09:51 PM   #16
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Thanks for the information.

As far as getting a 'nice' Euro car and selling it, the car needs to be in the ownership of the returning resident for 1 year prior to disposal.

As you said, money is liquid, maybe I'll lease one instead of buying and have to cash to setup a business, and make the money to pay off the car and other 'goodies'.

Anyone wants to go into a business venture?
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