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Old 10-26-2000, 08:10 AM   #1
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Post OK, so the WRX will be an early 2002?

Ok, let me get this right. Generally you see a vehicle hit the dealers a good 6 months or so before the actual year they are labelled but whats with the WRX?? Ive heard it rumored before and I just called a dealer (not concrete evidence I know) and he said the same thing. "We expect to see those here in the Spring".

Im speculating. When this WRX rumor all began everyone believed we would be getting a "new" 2001 Impreza. Now we are getting an early (basically 2001 1/2) 2002 instead. There are also rumors that they may have made some small changes to the US model since people were unhappy with the appearance. Im now wondering if they had planned to release it in 2001 (the decision for that was probably in 1998 or 99) and the program was set back due to some problems......emissions possibly and appearance complaints.

I cant think of any other reason why the dealers in the US are thinking that they will receive a 2002 model year car in the Spring of 2001, that seems very early. Personally I dont care. I gave the dealer my name and work number and asked for a call as soon as he had any concrete information. Delivery date, engine performance, and of course......price. I try to purchase vehicles through internet services (carpoint etc.) and explained that to him so he understands what I will not pay more than what carpoint or the other services offer. I paid $850 over invoice on my 2000 RS and expect the same on my 2002.

Annnnnyway, just more babbling about the 2002.

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Old 10-26-2000, 08:12 AM   #2
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You paid $850 over invoice?!?! I paid $400 (or was it $300?) over without even bargaining with my dealer!

It basically went like:

Me: "I'll take that one."
Dealer: "Ok, let's go do the paperwork."
Me:

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Old 10-26-2000, 08:15 AM   #3
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I can get people into RS's all day long for $500 over invoice, but I myself got mine for MSRP cause I didn't know of the club and had never bought a new car or anything at that point.
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Old 10-26-2000, 09:51 AM   #4
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Look at the new F150 when it was released in Jan 1997...it was a 1998 model.

Been done before.
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Old 10-26-2000, 09:56 AM   #5
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Hmmmm, thats odd with the $500 over invoice. Simply because I see people bragging about their "Out the door" pricing on their 2000's and it seems like mine was less. I think, after a few options, I ended up out the door for about $1500 under sticker price.

Oh well, im gonna take a beating when I sell the RS to get the WRX so fussing over $500 will seem like chump change

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Old 10-26-2000, 09:57 AM   #6
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I'm with you 8, I got shafted too...

As for the 2002 model being released in Spring 2001, it happens. I think there is some regulation that the car can't be available before a certain date (I forget what that is) in order for it to be called next year's model.
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Old 10-26-2000, 10:36 AM   #7
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I work for a dealership and we sell the RS below invoice, a couple hundred below actually.
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Old 10-26-2000, 01:09 PM   #8
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a 2002MY car can legally be put up for sale anytime after December 31, 2000.

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Old 10-26-2000, 01:53 PM   #9
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They had planned from the beginning for it to be a 2002 MY, with release in early 2001. Its not even that early in the US, look at Japan. They've been on sale there for a couple months already, all badged as a 2002 model.

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Old 10-26-2000, 01:56 PM   #10
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Did none of you notice that the redesigned 2001 Forester was on sale and in showrooms in January? They will do the same with the WRX.
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Old 10-26-2000, 02:18 PM   #11
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Uhhh ... the ones in Japan are called a 2000 model. Doesn't matter actually -- there are so many "limited run specials" in Japan that the model year doesn't actually mean that much.
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Old 10-26-2000, 03:31 PM   #12
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Well maybe they'll name the new car like Microsoft names its software. That would mean the new WRX will be a MY02.3 That way when you get it just like a Microsoft product you can expect things not to work correctly or feel like you got screwed. Then they will release another version that is supposedly free of problems named MY02.4 and charge you an additional couple grand. Then only to find that it too has issues. Then Subaru will finally release a WRX version4.0 that is almost totally free of problems. It also doesn't give the owner rights to make improvements or changes. Only the admin (dealership) can do that. Then if your actually automotive intelligent it will change your ownership status to Super User.
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Old 10-26-2000, 03:37 PM   #13
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The "MY2002" appellation is a North American quirk (assuming it happens in Canada too). Describing a car made and delivered in early 2001 as "MY2002" would be a sign of cynicism to most other buyers.

I sometimes find it irritating as it promises much but delivers little - I eagerly picked up a Road&Track to read all about 2001's cars, only discover that they were talking about *MY*2001 cars. Half the cars they, um, "scooped" were already parked outside the newsagent (glad I don't subscribe).

Elsewhere, describing "model year" is a selling tool. Though it is sometimes seen as a sign of desperation if, when advertising a pre-loved car, you say "1993 BMW, but 1994 model!". It's a bit like saying "Honest! It's not old or nothing and that's why I'm asking more than the 1993 BMW above!". Model years seem to count for less than when the car was actually registered (or even built, which is the really important thing).

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Old 10-27-2000, 12:50 AM   #14
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The Neon came out in the spring of '94 as a '95 model.
As for price, I got my OBS for $600 under invoice. $1000 factory to dealer incentive so it was really like $400 over invoice. Just got a friend of mine a quote on a Legacy GT at $200 over invoice.
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Old 10-27-2000, 11:17 AM   #15
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I leased my '98 RS on Nov 1st, 1997. Another guy on this board bought '98 in August of '97.

My lease ends Nov 1st this year, and while I was at the dealership this past Wed signing the loan papers to buy it, I inquired about the '02 models. A sales guy told me they had just seen pics of the car in its' American form (bigger bumpers, etc). They were told that it'd have 242hp and arrive in their showroom in late-Feb or early-March. I also inquired as to whether they'd be able to get STi parts. The guy stated that since they were "the largest Subaru parts dealer in the US" they'd most likely be able to get them, but SOA was further developing the SPT line of performance products. Wonder what that will be, since that fake carbonfiber puts about 25hp to the wheels...

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Old 10-28-2000, 12:53 AM   #16
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Bought my '98 for $25 over invoice.

I don't know what I'll end up with for cost on the '02 WRX, but I'll be watching what you guys get...

Shane Kullman
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Old 10-28-2000, 11:34 PM   #17
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Hey does anyone have a single clue or guess at what the price range is gonna be or the date ill be able to order, and/or put one on reserve??? Thanks , im looking forward to my first impreza as a turbo
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Old 10-29-2000, 05:27 AM   #18
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To sum up the popular guesses on the board:

We've guessed at $24K to $30K.
We've guessed at orders at dealers starting Anytime between Nov and March. (Meaning it could start in Nov or Dec or Jan or Feb or Mar)
Delivery starting sometime in the Spring.

This is the best we can come up with. SOA has yet to release numbers. (I think it would be cool if they announced them here 1st then released them the day after to the media).
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Old 10-30-2000, 06:25 AM   #19
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It would be nice if the would tell us SOMETHING! I'm actually interested in what is going on with the non-turbo end of the Impreza lineup. I know the 2.2 is gone, as is the "L" I think, but does that mean I have to get an OBS if I want an N/A wagon?? Yeesh. We're technically 2 months away from the Turbo debut @ Detroit...I can't believe there are still so few details.
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Old 10-30-2000, 07:39 AM   #20
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Eh wot's wrong with an OBS?! YOu wanna take this outside?!
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Old 10-30-2000, 08:16 AM   #21
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I wouldnt trade my OBS for any RS...Ahhhh..maybe a turbo one. :---)

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Old 10-30-2000, 11:07 AM   #22
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Not a dolburn thing, daddy-o! I jes' wanna know if I got to pony up for the doodads and wings, or if I can have the 2.5 for cheaper!


'kay?

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