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Old 03-24-2004, 02:47 PM   #1
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Well I stressing over it for a few days and I still can't decide on a wheel/tire package from SubyDude. I love the silver torques AND the steel gray tarmac II's. I've looke d at the gallery and I still can't get a real good pic of what the tarmac II's will look like.If I get the torques from SubyDude I have to settle for falken st-115 (235/40 17) but if I get the tarmac II's I get the tires I really want, Azenis sports (225/45/17). I know that I CAN put 225/45 azenis on the torques but why would I? Wider wheels need wide tires! Are the ST-115's anywhere near the azenis sports? I've read the reviews but still don't know if they offer the performance that I want. Anyway I was hoping some people could comment on my situation and offer some technical insight. (P.S. I don't want to roll the fenders to fit 245/40/17's either) Thanks, its really stressing me out! Oh yea, I have a 2004 WRB WRX.
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Old 03-24-2004, 02:53 PM   #2
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if I were you, I would get the torque and put 235/40/17 on it (isnt that the 22b size? )

the rolling diameter difference between 225/45/17 and 235/40/17 is probably very negligible. Actually I saw somewhere that 235/40/17 would fit a sedan with no trouble

BTW, us GC guys have to settle with 215/45/17 so stop complaining
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Old 03-24-2004, 04:12 PM   #3
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The Falken FK-451 is another tire option to consider.
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Old 03-24-2004, 06:19 PM   #4
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I know that the 235/40/17's will fit so the biggest decision for me is between the two wheels. I have really been liking the Torques b/c I love the idea of a WIDE wheel , and I think subydude said he can only offer falken st-115 's with the rota torque package. So what's it going to be: torques or tarmac II's...this is so tough!
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Old 03-25-2004, 12:18 AM   #5
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buy the torques and get the tires somewhere else.
i vote falken grb's or kuhmo mx's. edgeracing.com has good prices on the falkens.
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Old 03-25-2004, 12:06 PM   #6
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I actually just got my Steel Grey Torques yesterday. I had them mounted with 225/45/17 Falken Azenis Sports. The improvement over my stock wheels with Vredestein Quatrac 4s (yeah, I know, what kind of tires?) is unbelievable. I am very happy with the 225s, or at least for the past 16 hours I have had them on my car.

I think the question you have to ask is whether a 235 tire will grip better than the 225 Azenis Sports.

I would suggest calling Subydude. They are able to get other tires that what are listed on their website. Talk to them and see what they recommend for your needs.
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Old 03-25-2004, 07:03 PM   #7
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235/40x17 Falken ST115 section width on an 8" wheel: 9.4
235/40x17 Falken GRB-FK451 section width on an 8" wheel: 9.4
225/45x17 Falken Azenis section width on an 8" wide tire: 9.3

The 235/40x17 tires are spec'd on Falken's website on 8.5" wheels, so you lose .2" in section width for a loss of .5" of wheel width.

The 225/45x17 Azenis are spec'd on Falken's website on 7.5" wheels, so you gain .2" in section width going up .5" in wheel width.

So the difference in contact patch width is minimal, and according to Falken the clear winner in best dry performance would be the Azenis, followed by the FK451 and then the ST115. In the wet, the FK451 is by far the best choice, followed by ST115 and then the Azenis.

Doesn't it rain a lot in CT in the summer?

Get the Azenis and drive slow when it rains, or get the FK451 and lose some dry grip. If you're not going to autocross, the FK451 might be the best solution.

And tell Suby_Dude he needs to be selling FK451's
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Old 03-25-2004, 10:09 PM   #8
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Thanks for everyone who offered their opinions. I called in my order tonight to Subydude...and I picked up the silver torques with the 225/45/17 azenis sports. Yes I know, wide wheels need wide tires but their grip will more than make up for an extra bit of contact patch. I am happy with my decision and I can always put wider tires (like S-03's!) when the azenis sports wear down. Now just waiting for UPS.
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