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Old 03-26-2004, 12:43 PM   #1
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Default I need help finishing my turbo kit

I am buying a turbo kit and this is what it has in it:

-AiResearch T3-T28 turbo
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-Fuel Injectors (according to subaruparts.com they are STI injectors)
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-Numerous hoses and clamps
-Power Inc. Fuel Pump

What else will I need? From what I understand I will need a downpipe, some sort of stand alone ecu (I have a 2000 RS), some intercooler piping, an oil pan with an oil return tapped into it, and a tmic with blow off valve. Is there anything else you can see me needing?
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Old 03-26-2004, 01:17 PM   #2
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Yea, you'll need a turboback (dp (das pooper? ) , midpipe, axle-back). If you go for standalone, you won't need the rrfpr, but you should replace the factory fuel pressure regulator if you'll be upgrading the fuel pump.

I believe akcel might be selling a tapped oil pan. I also have a stainless steel braided oil return line and the oil gallery plug for the oil feed line.

If you need a tmic, I have a wrx tmic I want to get rid of also
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Old 03-26-2004, 01:22 PM   #3
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if u need a rrfpr i have a bell eng. one for sale

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Old 03-26-2004, 01:23 PM   #4
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So can I get away with not getting a stand alone ecu or do I need one?

So I need:

- Turboback
- Fuel pressure regulator
- Tapped oil pan
- tmic

Anything else to have everything I need for the swap?
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Old 03-26-2004, 01:38 PM   #5
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for the oil return to save some money u can do what FAT does with there kits and have it return to the rocker cover (valve cover)

JEff

PS i did it this way also with no problems

edit forgot to add i have a modified wrx intercooler made into side feed i got pics if needed

i'll sell everything for pretty cheap too because i don't have the car anymore, traded it in on a xt
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Old 03-26-2004, 01:50 PM   #6
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Well the guy I am buying the kit from I am actually going to make payments on because I dont have much money right now (going through some hard times). But if down the road when I get some payments under my belt and have some extra money I will definately talk to you first.
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Old 03-26-2004, 06:41 PM   #7
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i have no experience with rrfpr's but they've worked for other guys here.
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Old 03-29-2004, 02:03 PM   #8
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i have no experience with rrfpr's but they've worked for other guys here.
What set up are you using?
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Old 03-29-2004, 05:50 PM   #9
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tec2, 550 cc injectors, SVX fpr, walbro fuel pump
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Old 03-29-2004, 05:57 PM   #10
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What STI injectors are those? Only year that the STI injectors fit in is the 99??
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Old 03-29-2004, 06:54 PM   #11
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So then I do have to use something like the tec2 or I dont?
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Old 03-29-2004, 08:23 PM   #12
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it's recommended, not needed
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Old 03-29-2004, 09:22 PM   #13
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Ok, so I can get away with the Fuel Pressure Regulator until I can afford a tec2 or something?

I am sorry for all the questions but I am coming from carburated big blocks and things of that nature, turbos and imports are completely foreign to me.
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Old 03-30-2004, 12:34 AM   #14
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from my understanding, a fuel pressure regulator is different from a rising rate fuel pressure reglator.

But what people will say is might as well do it right the first time, ya know? Why spend the extra $ for an rrfpr as a temporary band aid if you're gonna get an ecu anyway?
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Old 03-30-2004, 01:28 AM   #15
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Well I am getting the Vortech RRFPR with the kit so I am hoping to use that until I can save up for the ecu.
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Old 03-30-2004, 01:32 AM   #16
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Well I am getting the Vortech RRFPR with the kit so I am hoping to use that until I can save up for the ecu.
If you use that (and its set correctly for your car), then you should be fine for low boost. Make sure you have gauges to go with your turbo too... (boost and EGT at a minimum)

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PS. Why are you turboing your car if you don't even have enough money to pay for the kit outright? ?? Its going to cost a lot of money to get it working and a lot more money to keep it working at 100%...
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Old 03-30-2004, 01:16 PM   #17
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If you use that (and its set correctly for your car), then you should be fine for low boost. Make sure you have gauges to go with your turbo too... (boost and EGT at a minimum)
What psi do you consider low boost, 5-6psi? I am planning on buying both of those gauges, would you recommend any others for a turbo?

And to answer your question on turbocharging my car, because I want to. I am a speed whore and I have a back up car incase I **** up my Suby, not to mention it is always broken anyways so I am getting used to not actually driving it.
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What psi do you consider low boost, 5-6psi? I am planning on buying both of those gauges, would you recommend any others for a turbo?

And to answer your question on turbocharging my car, because I want to. I am a speed whore and I have a back up car incase I **** up my Suby, not to mention it is always broken anyways so I am getting used to not actually driving it.
Yeah, low boost on an aftermarket turbocharged car is normally considered to be 5-7lbs. If you have an intercooler, it should be pretty safe.

If you run a rrfpr, you might want to consider a fuel pressure gauge (electronic inside the car). Oil pressure/oil temp/water temp are also options. You might also consider a wideband O2 sensor/gauge if you are going to tune your car, but those are pretty expensive...

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So then for now I should go with the boost, egt, and fuel pressure? What is the purpose of the egt gauge?
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EGT - exhaust gas temperature. If the exhaust gas gets too hot, you'll end up melting parts in your motor. Some people target a certain EGT value when tuning their cars.

IMO you should get a gauge for a part/component of the car you'll be modifying:

boost
oil pressure
fuel pressure
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Damn, I dont know if I have enough space to mount all those

Will I really need all of them for 5-7psi?
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Many of the things mentioned here are more like recommended than needed

It'll just make it easier to monitor what's goin on if things don't go smoothly ( and they never do ).
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Old 03-30-2004, 07:55 PM   #24
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for the oil return to save some money u can do what FAT does with there kits and have it return to the rocker cover (valve cover)

this is true, but it depends on how high your turbo sits.
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Wouldnt it just be easier to go to a junk yard and buy a pan and then just have my welder friend tap it for me?
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