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Old 10-23-2000, 11:28 PM   #1
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Talking RS 2.5/Jetta/Legacy update

Just thought I'd update everyone on the debate I was having earlier about which car to buy. Before I start, thanks to everyone for all the advice and ideas!

This morning, I drove out to my local dealer with my fiance, seeing that they'd recently received two 2.5RS Autos, according their website. But unfortunately the cars weren't actually there yet. I gave my number so they could call when they arrived. Got home from work today, and sure enough there was a message saying they'd arrived in the afternoon.

So I went out (without my fiance, since she was 1.5 hours away) and proceeded to drive both a 2.5RS and then a Legacy L sedan.

As for a comparison, the RS had at least as much headroom as the Legacy, but a bit less legroom. The brakes of the Impreza actually felt a little softer than the Legacy's. As expected, the steering and handling of the Impreza was tighter and more responsive. I also found the seats of the Impreza a bit more comfortable, as I had to adjust the Legacy seat a bit to find a good position. The Legacy's ride was softer and to me, smoother, which I actually preferred to the great road feel of the Impreza.

So, after giving it some thought and talking to my fiance, we decided to get the Legacy. If I was going to get the Impreza, I would have extended my current lease 6 months so I could get a MY02.

I think it came down to preferring comfort and safety over performance. Not that the Impreza isn't safe, but the Legacy is even more so. The one thing I wish the Legacy had was a less vague steering feel, but I'm willing to live with that. I think I also accepted that I'd probably never come close to truly reaching the limits of the Impreza, as I really have no intention of racing in any form.

I may look at a GT, but the price difference seems a little too steep to sway me away from the L (those cool wheels, sport suspension, and rear LSD make it tough). As for the Jetta, the less-than-steller service reputation and lack of AWD pretty much turned me off in the long run.

Now I have a little time before I go through the whole buying experience, but I'm hopeful the friendly dealer will be as friendly with the price as he's been with everything else.

I'll post future questions/experiences in the Legacy forum. This website is awesome!

Luke
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Old 10-23-2000, 11:39 PM   #2
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Luke, go visit http://www.subiegal.com if you have any doubts regarding the performance potential of the "Big Scoobie"...

I also happen to know that the Vishnu PEMS turbo kit works on EJ25 Legacies as well as Impreza RS's...

So don't sell yourself short. Ask TMR Impreza to post some of the pics he took of SPO's Legacy. You'll be astounded and amazed.
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Old 10-23-2000, 11:44 PM   #3
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I think it came down to preferring comfort and safety over performance. Not that the Impreza isn't safe, but the Legacy is even more so
Yep.. Bigger is better and safer

GET A LIFE...

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Old 10-24-2000, 06:59 AM   #4
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Actually, all else being equal, bigger cars are safer. I don't care for your condescending attitude either.
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Old 10-24-2000, 08:15 AM   #5
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Yup... "GET A LIFE" is pretty much uncalled for....
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Old 10-24-2000, 08:19 AM   #6
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Old 10-24-2000, 08:41 AM   #7
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OK...correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the Legacy L come with the 2.2? If that's the case, I'd DEFINITELY go with the GT and the 2.5. If you're talking about safety, the 2.5 will be MUCH more able to merge into traffic, pass safely, etc.
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Old 10-24-2000, 08:56 AM   #8
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Nope. For the '00 model year, all the Legacies got the 2.5. I felt pretty short-changed by that... But, at least I have the cool wheels...

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Old 10-24-2000, 08:59 AM   #9
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Sorry to have caused such a stir with my statement. There are certainly ways in which the smaller, quicker car is safer, especially in avoiding dangerous situations. But in collisions, being bigger certainly doesn't hurt, and neither does having a "Best Pick" from the IIHS. I'm not saying I'd get a big SUV, but it was just a (perhaps too) simple comparison between two cars.

As for the handling preferences, that's entirely a personal thing.

mav1c: The Legacy L now comes with a 2.5L (starting with the 2000 model). Major differences include the 16" alloy wheels, sport suspension, rear LSD, and 6-way seats.
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Old 10-24-2000, 05:32 PM   #10
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Richard is just pointing out that this is the mentality of the american public. That is why we have 7000 lb monsters on the roadways. The "I am bigger than you and will survive the crash that I cause because I was talking on my cell phone, sipping my latte and lighting my cigarette" mentality. I bet they could make a sub-compact better in crash tests if they designed them better.

ANYWAY, The Legacy is a good car. I have one but I wish I bought the RS because of what I need in a car. But if you need a bigger car then great. At least you bought a subaru!
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Old 10-24-2000, 05:50 PM   #11
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Luke,

Don't apologize. You've done nothing wrong. Lets just say I'll reserve comment on a previous post.

I hope you find a great Legacy. My sister's MY93 is running strong at 200k miles.
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Old 10-24-2000, 08:43 PM   #12
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Congrats on the new Legacy!

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Old 10-24-2000, 10:32 PM   #13
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Actually, the Legacy is Small for sedan of its nature. The interior sure doesnt seem that way, but its about a foot shorter than Accords, Maximas, Camrys and the likes... but Safer and lighter. Its an ingenious car design if you ask me! Every "Soccer Mom" should have one instead of those 'S'still'U'unsafe'V'vehicles if you know what I mean...

(So the soccer kids can drive them when they grow up!!! hehe)
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Old 10-24-2000, 11:33 PM   #14
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I personaly would get the L, unless you REALLY like the way the GT looks. The mechanicals can be uprated with little effort and not much more $$. You could always look into getting the Legacy B4 RSK suspention, and rims. I know the GT-B at least has 17" rims from the factory and I think the RSK has them also. That likely will not run you about the same as the GT, but you can pick when you spend it.
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Old 10-25-2000, 12:45 AM   #15
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Luke,
Yesterday I emailed a friend your post from a couple of weeks ago. This past weekend I took her car shopping. She drove the Jetta, Legacy L and Legacy GT. She's leaning towards the GT. She liked the Impreza L until I told her it didn't have ABS. And she hated the RS's hood scoop.
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Old 10-25-2000, 12:48 AM   #16
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Well.....I stand corrected. It's GREAT that all Legacies come with the 2.5 now. The Legacy with the 2.2 is pretty weak. GOOD luck!

When will they have an H6 Legacy GT? THAT should be fun!
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