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Old 03-30-2004, 04:53 AM   #1
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i havent bought the car yet. but im looking to get like a 95. ive read that they come with a 1.8 (ej18), is this it. what power does this make stock? any chance for a sawp with like the ej22 out of a legacy or anything. what kind of times does this thing run stock or even lightly modded. ive found a bolt on turbo kit for the impreza at http://www.turbo-kits.com/impreza_turbo_kits.html. is this any good or what. itll be a bout 7-8 mos before i turbo it and i dont want to just go out and buy a slug. any info on the 93-01 impreza is appreciated.
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Old 03-30-2004, 06:54 AM   #2
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1.8 Impreza...avoid. Not much you can do to make them something beyond what they are (a DL in wolf's clothing). The 1.8 doesn't respond well to turbo-ing...just look at the old GL turbos with cracked heads to see what I mean.
The 2.2 was available in '95, I'm pretty certain. That's 135hp, and it feels like more. Pay a little extra now to get it vs. a lot more later to try to add it.
I'm not a big fan of adding turbos to the 2.2 or 2.5 as they have rather high compression ratios, so it limits the boost you can run realistically to about 6-8 lbs. Going beyond that takes a lot of careful thought and engineering to control detonation.
Find a 2.2 car for now. Swap it to a 2.5 (165hp) later. If that still isn't enough power, save your pennies for a used WRX.
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Old 03-30-2004, 07:15 AM   #3
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Old 03-30-2004, 09:53 AM   #4
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I have the factory manuals for 1995, *and* I own a 95, so I feel I'm qualified to answer this question definitively.

Both 1.8 and 2.2 were offered in 1995.

However, all the 2.2s were on automatic transmissions. They didn't make a 2.2 manual tranny that year.

Here's my advice:

1) If you're planning on swapping anyway, get a 1995 or earlier. Why? 1996 and later are all OBD2, and when you do your swap, you'll likely have to get ALL the OBD2 stuff working to be emissions legal. Plus, why pay more for the extra 0.4 liters you'll just swap out anyway?

2) If you're only really dreaming about a swap, i.e., don't have a garage and a couple grand, get a 1996+ 2.2 and don't worry about it. Just drive.
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Old 03-30-2004, 12:14 PM   #5
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I pretty much agree with Anders. I have a 95' with the 1.8. its 110HP and 110 lbs.ft. Totally stock It ran an 18.22@75 on a hot humid day. Total dog. I did put a 2.5l in it and now it is much better, its a fun car.
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Old 03-30-2004, 03:35 PM   #6
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I pretty much agree with Anders. I have a 95' with the 1.8. its 110HP and 110 lbs.ft. Totally stock It ran an 18.22@75 on a hot humid day. Total dog. I did put a 2.5l in it and now it is much better, its a fun car.
My 2.2ltr automatic runs slower on a hot humid day stock at about the same trap speed.
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Old 03-30-2004, 03:36 PM   #7
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how hard is it to swap a 2.5 into it? is it the motor from the 2.5 rs, and do i need the tranny and all that as well or will the 2.5 bolt to the 1.8 tranny. i know i had a hand in swapping a australian wrx ej20 into a 2.5 rs and it was a pain in the ass. i dont want the 1.8 but a manual is a must. so if they didnt put the 2.2 with manual in 95, did they do it before or after then. i know about the obd2 thing thats why i said 95.
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Old 03-30-2004, 03:53 PM   #8
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how hard is it to swap a 2.5 into it? is it the motor from the 2.5 rs, and do i need the tranny and all that as well or will the 2.5 bolt to the 1.8 tranny. i know i had a hand in swapping a australian wrx ej20 into a 2.5 rs and it was a pain in the ass. i dont want the 1.8 but a manual is a must. so if they didnt put the 2.2 with manual in 95, did they do it before or after then. i know about the obd2 thing thats why i said 95.
search and read in the subaru conversions forum.

it's not an easy task to do a complete swap

for model specifics and breakdown visit: www.cars101.com

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Old 03-30-2004, 03:56 PM   #9
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so if they didnt put the 2.2 with manual in 95, did they do it before or after then.
There's no if. They didn't. And the answer is yes, after then.

In 1996, everything had the 2.2 except the Brighton Coupe, which was still 1.8/manual. So plenty of 2.2 manuals in a 96.

In 1997, there was still a Brighton Coupe, but it now had the option of either a 1.8 or the 2.2, and manual or automatic.

Then the 1.8 disappeared... Well not disappeared I guess... I have one sitting in my garage.

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Old 03-30-2004, 05:59 PM   #10
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I've had a 1.8 turbo for over a year with no problems whatsoever. On a cold night on 6psi, it's as fast as a lightly modded WRX. The intercooler is not totally under the scoop though so on warm days, it's pretty slow.
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There's no if. They didn't. And the answer is yes, after then.
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Are you sure about that Anders? I was told they made a short run of 3.0ltr Imprezas in 1995 of about 10 units. Only one is left and some guy is driving it in North Carolina.
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Old 03-30-2004, 10:38 PM   #12
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In the past, two people (at least) posted about '95 2.2 MT Imprezas, in each case 2dr. Apparently those were '96-spec. cars. NotAnRS: The 1.8 in Impreza is an EJ engine. Mechanically it might be even stronger than 2.2.
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Old 03-30-2004, 11:35 PM   #13
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Are you sure about that Anders? I was told they made a short run of 3.0ltr Imprezas in 1995 of about 10 units. Only one is left and some guy is driving it in North Carolina.
Im still waiting for some numbers and in-car footage from anders

Anyway, the 1.8 is fine until you have to merge onto freeways or go up hills. Its a good car to start with, but definatly go for the swap later on... Any swap is good, even just a 2.2 would be a good upgrade.
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Old 03-31-2004, 12:06 AM   #14
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ok, ive had about 15 hondas and motor swaps are very very easy for me, i can have the motor out of my civic in like an hour. so how hard is a 2.2 swap compared to a honda swap. like i asked before, what about the tranny, can the 1.8 be retained or will i have to source out a 2.2 tranny as well?
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Old 03-31-2004, 04:29 AM   #15
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Trannys are compatible across the board. The swap is not as easy as a honda, there are alot of wiring issues (lots). Physically, its about the same, and subaru motors are nice and light.
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Are you sure about that Anders? I was told they made a short run of 3.0ltr Imprezas in 1995 of about 10 units. Only one is left and some guy is driving it in North Carolina.
Yes, well, about that. Make sure you check the vin of that 95 on carfax.com, it might have a 3.0 installed!!!

I heard that of the ten, seven were that crappy green color. The first three were a much cooler silver color, but the rumor is that those ones were destroyed. However, my inside contact at Subaru of Japan told me that those three were actually shipped to a warehouse at this address:

4 stin duction

but he wouldn't tell me what city.

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