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Old 03-31-2004, 03:05 AM   #1
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Default HELP?! Internals time!!!

I'm thinking about building the EJ20 block/internals up with pistons, rods, rings (total seal), studs (ARP), and gaskets (Cometic). Think I should have a company like Payn Tech who is close as hell do this for me, or Axxis in MO, or someone similar or just have it honed for free then blueprinted and balanced for about $3-400 and put it together with a few buddies/mechanics. Also I've been told to stay away from JE Pistons with the EJ20...any thoughts on that or input as far as brand pistons/rods etc would be greatly appreciated. (I plan on slowly building an EJ22T over the next year or 2 also but that's waaayyy down the road)

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Old 03-31-2004, 06:23 AM   #2
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My suggestion is to wait a couple of weeks for Clayton and I to get our AEM's running right and see how the engines perform.

We are using Wiesco pistons... I wouldn't use Total Seal Rings either...
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Old 03-31-2004, 10:39 AM   #3
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By track record alone you can't go wrong with Ron's shop in St. Louis. But as Don has said, it's in your benefit to see how they end up working out, simply from the postition of distance to the shop over there.

Personally.... JE can suck me... CP's have had great reputation (what Ron @ Axis uses), and Ross has had a good rep with the EJ motor.

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Old 03-31-2004, 10:56 AM   #4
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Here in Saint Louis we dont do any 2.0 liter stuff. We have built a few JDM STi shortblocks up or sold new ones. But that's about it.

We generally stick with 2.2 and up.

Wiseco pistons have a good reputation in the motorcycle world. But I havent had any experience with them in an EJ series motor.

We used to use ROSS, but there were some issues.

CP is a true winner all around. Pauter or the Oliver I-beam rod that Payn uses are both nice choices. Arrow Precision is also a great choice.

Total seal rings are decent. But I have seen problems with them.

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Old 03-31-2004, 12:13 PM   #5
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CP Pistons They are whats going in my 2.5 buildup.
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Old 03-31-2004, 12:14 PM   #6
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Payn (local and has built several EJ motors, Don & mine included)
Oliver rods
Wisco pistons
Ron @ axxis shim under valvetrain
NOT total seal rings
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Old 03-31-2004, 01:47 PM   #7
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OK...well Total Seal's are out of the Q then! What SHOULD I use? LOL That was easy. I will wait as long as possible to see how both Don and Clayton's wagons turn out. When will u guys be back on the road?!

Pistons: Wiesco vs. CP (leaning towards CP)

Rods: Pauter vs. Oliver (Does Crower even make one for us?)

Mike: Thanks for the input! I plan on sending out any valvetrain to you guys no Q's asked. I'll prob just drive down and stay with JenisonWRX for a few days self-invited hehehe...once I get my EJ22T torn down I'll be hitting you up for info/parts/service Also once I get the EJ20 done I'm going to want management that I can also carry over into the 2.2. I was looking at Tec3 last night but it'll be awhile before I can afford that after my buildup. Can ECUtek or Link run the 2.2???


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Old 03-31-2004, 06:01 PM   #8
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We have built a few JDM STi shortblocks up or sold new ones.

Mike,
Do you still provide this option?


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Old 03-31-2004, 06:28 PM   #9
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Mike,
Do you still provide this option?


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Nope. Only 2.0 jdm blocks we have are paper weights. Damaged in shipping.

Its easy to get ver 7 or ver 8 blocks... Good options if you want to keep 2.0 liters.

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Old 03-31-2004, 09:45 PM   #10
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TO be honest with you, we have Magnus build our blocks. We have two STi blocks being fully built for cars. I wouldn't trust too many folks with building a SUbaru block. It is very different from a Honda or other block.
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Old 03-31-2004, 09:55 PM   #11
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TO be honest with you, we have Magnus build our blocks. We have two STi blocks being fully built for cars. I wouldn't trust too many folks with building a SUbaru block. It is very different from a Honda or other block.
isnt magnus a DSM shop?!?!
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Old 03-31-2004, 09:55 PM   #12
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WRX34 - An engine build is one of those things that if you have to ask if you should do it yourself, you shouldn't do it yourself.
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Old 03-31-2004, 10:07 PM   #13
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isnt magnus a DSM shop?!?!
Yes, very good one too. They can produce a subaru motor a month last time I checked.

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Old 03-31-2004, 10:11 PM   #14
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TO be honest with you, we have Magnus build our blocks. We have two STi blocks being fully built for cars. I wouldn't trust too many folks with building a SUbaru block. It is very different from a Honda or other block.
We work on everything but Hondas...

Have hung up on a couple people. heh

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Old 04-01-2004, 05:45 PM   #15
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OK...well Total Seal's are out of the Q then! What SHOULD I use?

Also once I get the EJ20 done I'm going to want management that I can also carry over into the 2.2. I was looking at Tec3 last night but it'll be awhile before I can afford that after my buildup. Can ECUtek or Link run the 2.2???
Bump to these Q's...I'll post in other threads if I can't fig it out here tho. Thanks!


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Old 04-03-2004, 04:35 AM   #16
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arias pistons and potter rods....just decide what displacemant you want
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Old 04-03-2004, 04:43 AM   #17
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why not//i bet i can build a block better than most...aaxis you done took my idea...you can have it...i bet i can have a faster car than you guys...u-tec based...anyone>?...i8 bet i can...dude i jus smoked a dude in my escort...hahahaha...you giot balls?hahahahaha...ok im out from hear on out.....ill let ya knowe what you can call me later...**** virginia...they can have it.....hahahhahha
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Old 04-03-2004, 12:50 PM   #18
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why not//i bet i can build a block better than most...aaxis you done took my idea...you can have it...i bet i can have a faster car than you guys...u-tec based...anyone>?...i8 bet i can...dude i jus smoked a dude in my escort...hahahaha...you giot balls?hahahahaha...ok im out from hear on out.....ill let ya knowe what you can call me later...**** virginia...they can have it.....hahahhahha
whoa sir, alcohol and the internet are a bad combo.
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Old 04-03-2004, 03:22 PM   #19
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hey J hows the B coming along?
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Old 04-06-2004, 01:43 PM   #20
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ROFL...wow...that certainly was interesting.

Caddy Daddy: The Brighton is just chilling in our garage He got a damn ticket as SOON as he got beck into Brighton, MI lol Damn window tint hahaha... He's waiting to sell his other car before we go forward into doing anything with ur old Suby. That and trying to figure out WITF I'm gonna do with mine so that we can decide on what's going into his car in the future etc. But yeah we'll for sure let you know and perhaps be out with it or both for the Dragon!


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Old 04-07-2004, 07:08 PM   #21
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Wiesco pistons and Oliver rods

CP's are also good pistons.
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