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View Poll Results: Custom STi Harness?
Very interested ... cost no object 2 20.00%
interested .... long as price reasonable 4 40.00%
interested .... only if CHEAP 0 0%
Don't care 4 40.00%
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Old 03-31-2004, 08:59 PM   #1
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Default How hard could it be to make an STI harness?

I'm a frustrated STi owner...With some piggy back systems becoming available we still have no harnesses for a plug & play application. How hard could it be to make one? There are several custom harness manufactures who can do even low volume runs. I want to gauge the how interested STi owners would be in contracting one of these manufactures to make us one. It might not be too cheap but who ever said this was a cheap hobby.

Please also post how much you might be willing to fork over for one if we can make it happen.
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Old 04-01-2004, 12:51 AM   #2
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i wouldn't expect it to cost any more than $30 and even that would be high for some plastic and some wires and connectors.

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Old 04-01-2004, 01:05 PM   #3
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i wouldn't expect it to cost any more than $30 and even that would be high for some plastic and some wires and connectors.

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that's funny. really. $30 would hardly cover the cost of the PCboard and wires.
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Old 04-01-2004, 02:30 PM   #4
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that's funnay. really. $30 would hardly cover the cost of the PCboard and wires.
what PCB would you need for it? all you would need would be 1 male and 2 female connectors and some wires in between. you wouldn't need a PCB - not as far as i can tell anyway. perhaps you could explain why a PCB would be required.

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Old 04-01-2004, 05:06 PM   #5
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if it's so easy, why hasn't it been done?
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Old 04-01-2004, 07:39 PM   #6
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if it's so easy, why hasn't it been done?
i think the problem is sourcing the connectors. i don't know of a way to easily reverse-engineer the mold and finding them seems to be the problem.

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Old 04-01-2004, 08:06 PM   #7
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Somebody has already done this. He posted here:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...hreadid=494679

It was just connectors, shrink wrap, silicon calk, and wires. Lots of wires. So many that if there was a problem in there you might have one hell of a time figuring out what was up. It looked hand assembled and was going for about $240 to $260. That may sound overpriced but if you look at the total problem. Sourcing the connectors, number of hours for assembly, number of hours to test the assembly. There's not a whole lot of margin in it. Hand assembly is just the facts of life in a low run limited lifespan product situation.

The PCB idea is a much better solution. Provided you could source the right angle connectors. The assembly would be a breeze and the PCB fab could do a connectivity test in the manufacturing process. Bed of nail or something of the sort. The PCB could have some nice size vias to solder to and some cut points. You wouldn't necessarily have to have cut and jump points for every signal. Just a dozen or so choice ones. There are also cost problems associated with this also. The NRE for the PCB and possible cost of custom right angle connectors will eat at your margins. It would be a nicer product but the end the retail pricing would probably be the same as the hand assembled units.
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Old 04-01-2004, 10:42 PM   #8
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i think the problem is sourcing the connectors. i don't know of a way to easily reverse-engineer the mold and finding them seems to be the problem.

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Sourcing the connectors isn't THAT hard, you just have to buy a whole lot of them or settle for a set of samples. The minimum order on one of the connectors is rather large and the lead times are very long. We put up the cash a long time ago. I will happily sell you a set of the connectors for $1049. If you wait just a little longer, those connectors will have a nice UTEC attached.

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Old 04-02-2004, 08:22 AM   #9
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Nathan:
Its hard to wait! even when it does come out there's gonna be a huge demand! I figure your first alocaton is pre sold anyways..PM me if im wrong so i can send you a deposit
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Nathan:
Its hard to wait! even when it does come out there's gonna be a huge demand! I figure your first alocaton is pre sold anyways..PM me if im wrong so i can send you a deposit
We do not take deposits, so the first allocation is totally unsold give or take a few that Iíve promised to various people. We don't even have a list at this point. Of course there is no shortage of people asking to be put on a list, we just don't want to go though the huge backorder situation we had when the WRX utec was first released.

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Old 04-02-2004, 12:49 PM   #11
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I sell GP MOTO Unichips w\ a plug and play harness for the STI. I'm looking at one right now They work great.


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