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Old 04-04-2004, 10:10 AM   #1
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Cool Defi BF's to RED...write up...

Finally, someone has sucessfully changed the backlight color of the defi BF's...Thank you S2K...

http://forums.s2ki.com/forums/showth...highlight=Defi
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Old 04-04-2004, 10:45 AM   #2
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too risky for me..but a good write up
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Old 04-04-2004, 12:29 PM   #3
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too risky for me..but a good write up
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Old 04-04-2004, 01:30 PM   #4
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i just wish there was a way to do this WITHOUT removing the needles. i wonder if there is an easier way...

having a boost or egt gauge that isn't calibrated correctly is useless.
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Old 04-05-2004, 07:21 AM   #5
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might have to take a look into this today.
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Old 04-05-2004, 07:01 PM   #6
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done.

...it looks pink though. so i guess im going to have to go look for a yellow sharpie to offset the red and make it a little more orange to match the dash.

the procedure was easy. there werent any problems with calibration- all i did was move the needle all the way to max and then mark on the metal ring under the cover where the max is. the when you go to put the needle back in, just align the max to the same place. very easy. if you can get the colors right, this is a very worthwhile mod.

and yes, i know...ttiwwop. ill take pics after i yellow things up a bit....unless you guys want to see what they look like pink?
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Old 04-05-2004, 08:37 PM   #7
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The Sharpie method is short term temporary at best.

The ink dries & dissolves with exposure to air.
Also the heat of the bulb (in this case LED) will help to speed up the drying and thinning of the Sharpie ink.

A better solution would be sandwich in a layer of translucent red colored film/plastic as a filter.

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Old 04-05-2004, 09:18 PM   #8
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ok. redid them with an orange sharpie. 100x better. ill take pics in a bit and post them at the end of the evening.
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Old 04-05-2004, 10:22 PM   #9
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The Sharpie method is short term temporary at best.

The ink dries & dissolves with exposure to air.
Also the heat of the bulb (in this case LED) will help to speed up the drying and thinning of the Sharpie ink.

A better solution would be sandwich in a layer of translucent red colored film/plastic as a filter.

- Janq

exactly what i was thinking. i use a paint for lightbulbs for this type of stuff (interior bulbs to my jeep) and it holds up real well. i don't think leds get too awful hot but i don't think the sharpie idea will last long either.

so next question: where to get a good, red/orange film?
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Old 04-05-2004, 11:26 PM   #10
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here ya go:

before


after
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Old 04-05-2004, 11:43 PM   #11
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exactly what i was thinking. i use a paint for lightbulbs for this type of stuff (interior bulbs to my jeep) and it holds up real well. i don't think leds get too awful hot but i don't think the sharpie idea will last long either.

so next question: where to get a good, red/orange film?
I use stained glass window liquid latex coloring paint which is resitant to indirect heat. Even it fades though after 4 months or less depending ont he size of the bulb (output) and its usage.

As for locating a red filter/film I'd try a photgraphy supply shop or your local arts & crafts center.
Just follow the fat ladies wearing home made macrame sweaters and driving cars with cats in them.

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Old 04-06-2004, 03:46 AM   #12
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That looks nice, I used red model paint that you by at walmart when I did my Radio and HVAC.

Have a look

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Old 04-06-2004, 06:19 AM   #13
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ive also been looking at this and attempted many things,

including the red celophane, and actually changed the leds to red. however wot i found is that there no where near intense as the cluster.

if u guys could help me source the leds i would be really appreciative.

i measured them to be 3.2mm long x 2.6mm wide. they dont have to be exactly these measurements as the ones i had were a lil smaller. anyway their called smt LEDS or surface (mount LEDS). u obviously need them to be high intensity red.

any info would be great. thanks guys
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Old 04-06-2004, 08:01 AM   #14
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I think soldering in red LED's would be the ideal fix on this....is that what you're going to do Tino?

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Old 04-06-2004, 08:48 AM   #15
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I posted something similar in the imprezawrxsti forum, here's the thread about the LED's...hope it helps...

http://www.imprezawrxsti.com/postnuk...ewtopic&t=7665
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Old 04-06-2004, 10:16 AM   #16
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yeah thats wot im trying to do. found sum leds from singapore they were a tad smaller but fitted fine. but when i turned the gauge on it was a dull red. and dosent match the cluster. thats the problem. i wonder if any1 hasa pulled apart the sti cluster and tried to use those leds.

havent had the balls to pull apart the cluster to see wot type of leds they are.
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Old 04-08-2004, 07:10 PM   #17
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i think the leds we need are a totally different type. they have a weird name but i can't think of it at the moment...
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Old 04-08-2004, 08:26 PM   #18
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yeah the ones we need are called smt leds
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Old 04-08-2004, 09:01 PM   #19
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yeah the ones we need are called smt leds

doesn't that stand for surface mount or something like that?


i am thinking of something different that indicates a more intense light. maybe EL lighting??
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Old 04-08-2004, 10:40 PM   #20
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yeah its surface mount leds.

the common ones are round 1-10mcd but im looking at gettin some which are 80mcd min -120mcd max. i think they will be superbright. im gonna look at the dealer and ask sum more questions then hopefully get a sample.
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Old 04-08-2004, 11:07 PM   #21
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FWIW, I talked to the fellow that's the (original and now again) North American distributor for Defi, when I was at IAS last weekend. I mentioned the red BF series gauges that Defi had shown at this years TAS. If enough people show an interest, he felt that he could get them to speed up their release.

Here's his name and contact info:

Hubbie Fuh
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732-290-2213

hubie@spipowerexcel.com

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Old 04-08-2004, 11:18 PM   #22
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they're coming out with RED BF Series
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Old 04-09-2004, 12:49 AM   #23
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they're coming out with RED BF Series
When? next year?
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Old 04-17-2004, 05:09 PM   #24
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I emailed that guy. I want some red guages and the current defi bf guages are way too expensive to attempt to mod them myself!
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Very cool. Hopefully more folks will show some interest and help us all out.
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