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Old 04-07-2004, 07:29 PM   #1
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Question Larry Ganz vs Cobb

I had my heart set on the Cobb CAI but just discovered the Ganz flow intake directly into stock airbox. Anybody willing to go with the Ganz over the Cobb unit???? Cost is no issue. Thanks.
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Old 04-07-2004, 07:32 PM   #2
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I had the Ganzflow intake for about a year until I replaced it with the Cobb. The fit and finish is perfect and I saw larger gains on the butt-dyno at higher RPMS. Low-end torque was retained. I definitely recommend the Cobb over the Ganzflow.

But if Larry Ganz and Cobb were to have a fight like your post title suggests, I think Cobb would win out of sheer numbers-- they have more than 10 employees, from what I understand
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Old 04-07-2004, 07:32 PM   #3
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Either way I think you would be happy. Personally though you cant beat Cobb for subaru tuning.
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Old 04-07-2004, 08:32 PM   #4
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wow you gotta be nuts, cobb all the way!
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Old 04-07-2004, 09:00 PM   #5
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Are the gains that much more significant???
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Old 04-07-2004, 09:02 PM   #6
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ganzflow is poop compared to the cobb
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Old 04-08-2004, 02:22 AM   #7
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I have a GanzFlow intake, don't see the couple HP difference with the Cobb being worth over $120. Keeping my Ganz, and have no intentions of "upgrading" to a Cobb.
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Old 04-08-2004, 06:53 AM   #8
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No complaints from the Ganzflow here
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Old 04-08-2004, 08:10 AM   #9
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I just replaced my Ganzflow with a COBB and here is my take. My car is a 2000 RS BTW.

Ganzflow: simple design, cost effective, very close to stock in terms of sound and performance. Gains are minimal and are felt across the powerband. Pretty nice piece for the money.

COBB: expensive but very well engineered. Gains are minimal on the low end of the powerband, but are significant on the high end. Pretty damn loud at wide-open throttle.

You are comparing apples to oranges with these two intakes. If money is no object, the COBB is the way to go. If you just want the car to breath a bit better and you are looking to save some money, get the Ganzflow. Bear in mind that neither one is going to transform your car into a rocket.

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Old 04-08-2004, 08:18 AM   #10
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I agree with lumpy (that just sounds wrong). I chose the PDM unit over the Ganzflow though. Basically the same thing, and the PDM was $50. I went this route simply because I was worried about warranty issues, and the PDM/Ganz retain the stock airfilter box.
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You are comparing apples to oranges with these two intakes. If money is no object, the COBB is the way to go. If you just want the car to breath a bit better and you are looking to save some money, get the Ganzflow. Bear in mind that neither one is going to transform your car into a rocket.

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Old 04-08-2004, 08:48 AM   #12
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Ganzflow. Cobb is just too loud after a while.

Plus if I were to spend that much on an intake, I'd either buy the one from SOA/SPT or go back in time for a Rallispec.
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Old 04-08-2004, 11:39 AM   #13
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Old 04-08-2004, 12:45 PM   #15
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I'd put it on my car...their stuff was great...except for the service
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Old 04-08-2004, 03:26 PM   #16
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If cost is no issue, then go for the Cobb. However, if noise level at wot is an issue for you (or the police), then stick with Ganzflow or PDM. Otherwise, get a WRX or XT.
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How loud we talkin bout here folks. I heard the clip from Pat LI's car with the borlas with the cobb and I couldn't discern it (maybe he wasn't at WOT enough?) Does it drown out the stock exhaust? I want the car to be stealthy.... Brullen perhaps. I don't mind some noise at wot but y'all r scarin me.
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Old 04-08-2004, 07:25 PM   #18
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SOA/SPT??? Help
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Old 04-08-2004, 07:31 PM   #19
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How loud we talkin bout here folks. I heard the clip from Pat LI's car with the borlas with the cobb and I couldn't discern it (maybe he wasn't at WOT enough?) Does it drown out the stock exhaust? I want the car to be stealthy.... Brullen perhaps. I don't mind some noise at wot but y'all r scarin me.
i have a video of a new age rs with the cobb in car full revving it, if i get an email i can send it to you later



SPT = subaru performance team? i think the t is team
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if cost is not an issue, u should have Cobb everything on ur car

the only reason not to get Cobb's stuff is their price! both r great intake IMO the larry ganz help u to get the max power out of ur stock airbox at a low cost, while the Cobb is a complete CAI that helps u get the max power out of ur car. i have the Cobb on my car and i would say the intake is very well designed. little to no low end loss and max high end. u can kinda feel the testings, testings and testings Cobb have done with the CAI, and even at the price of close to $300 brand new i would say its still worth it.

my 2 cents

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Old 04-09-2004, 09:38 AM   #21
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How loud we talkin bout here folks. I heard the clip from Pat LI's car with the borlas with the cobb and I couldn't discern it (maybe he wasn't at WOT enough?) Does it drown out the stock exhaust? I want the car to be stealthy.... Brullen perhaps. I don't mind some noise at wot but y'all r scarin me.
The intake is pretty damn loud at WOT but during regular cruising it is quiet. I was not approaching WOT in that video clip so you dont really hear the intake.
the only time the intake drowns out my exhaust is when i am at WOT with the windows up, then i usually mostly hear the intake in cabin.
with the windows down at WOT it is a massive assualt!!! If you listen closely you can tell the difference between the two noises! but they are both loud as hell!

It is supposed to be super nice outside this weekend i will try to get some more video clips. I also have a video of my car with just the cobb intake installed before i got my exhaust done. It is saved on my buddys camera so i will have to put it onto my laptop again.
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SOA/SPT??? Help
SOA = Subaru Of America
SPT = Subaru Performance Tuning

Relevance to this discussion:

SPT HIGH FLOW AIR INTAKE SYSTEM, Produced by HKS for Subaru of America. Suggested Retail: $349.00 (Although it averages around $320 at most dealerships)

Personally, I've tried the Cobb Intake and came to the conclusion it was a waste of money; to loud, only minor gains and I had to deal with shoddy service just to get it. I'm currently back to a modified stock airbox and haven't lost any power to the Cobb...:shrug:
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tuning damn hah i was so close with team
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Old 04-09-2004, 01:46 PM   #24
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I've had:

-Cobb
-Ganz
-Gravelsports
-PDM

All on with a Stromung Catback.

Get a PDM. The Cobb was not the end all everyone wants it to be. Our cars are not rockets, the won't be as long as they are N/A. For what all of the above things do, the differences are miniscule. I'm back to stock, and besides the noise, it's barely noticeable.

If you really want an intake, save your money, buy a PDM.

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i bought a custom made intake based on the ganz one, and im very satisfied of it, costed me the same price than a ganz one + shipping and duty (im in canada)

basically its 3inches piping from the fender and a reducer to fit the intake box inlet, so it kinda acts like an AEM V2

sound is good, not too noisy, but you can hear it at WOT, and gain across the powerband aswell
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